I think the Empire is seen as being cooler/more interesting in general. The Federation is just far to similar to the real world European/American political system to be particularly interesting. The Alliance also seems to be popular for similar reasons.
The idea that having four factions would actually weaken the Empire clearly isn't working out. A change is needed.
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I think the Empire is seen as being cooler/more interesting in general. The Federation is just far to similar to the real world European/American political system to be particularly interesting. The Alliance also seems to be popular for similar reasons.
@Beltane Sorry mate, guess I misunderstood you.
That's because that's basically no advantage at all. What matters is the number of players and organised groups supporting your Power. How many systems you start with is genuinely no big deal.
Two options, as I see them. One, FD is simply biased. That's not impossible. Pretty much every single story about the Federation has painted it in a negative light, and whoever writes the GalNet entries has a very hard time staying at least roughly neutral. Two, they thought they could stimulate inter-Empire conflict (requiring attracing more players to the faction first), and simply messed up the Powerplay mechanics - that is IMO the more likely explanation.
LOL........And each fed faction has been compensated with far more systems under their control, compared to every other faction in Powerplay. No one says that is unfair
That's because that's basically no advantage at all. What matters is the number of players and organised groups supporting your Power. How many systems you start with is genuinely no big deal.
Two options, as I see them. One, FD is simply biased. That's not impossible. Pretty much every single story about the Federation has painted it in a negative light, and whoever writes the GalNet entries has a very hard time staying at least roughly neutral. Two, they thought they could stimulate inter-Empire conflict (requiring attracing more players to the faction first), and simply messed up the Powerplay mechanics - that is IMO the more likely explanation.
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Exactly that. I choose Empire long before i owned my Clipper, wasn't even sure i would like it. Alliance was another option, but they - well, they looked the way they look today, sadly still unfinished. As for Federation, your very post. To me they represent, might be only me, some of the worse parts i really hate about today politics (corrupt, sticking their noses into things that are none of their business etc.)
@Cadoc: No problem, everthing is cool.
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That's something we Imperials can worry about after we've wiped out the Federation and captured Sol
I think the Federation, at first glance, appear to be the good guys looking to keep the galaxy safe vs the bad guys of the Empire with its history of sororicide and genocide.
FD have worked to balance that by making the Empire more nuanced and somewhat evolved froms its bloody roots but, perhaps, have gone too far the other way and made them really cool and interesting.
That's pretty much my opinion to the letter, especially the bold part.
The thing with the Federation is that they COULD be interesting. I can't be the only one digging that sort of future corporate democracy dystopia, or loving the Weyland-Yutani thing. The faction being "evil" can't be the thing making players disinterested - the Empire is at least as bad, and it's plenty popular. Again, though, it's hard to get invested in a faction that Frontier seems to have 0 interest in developing. The Empire also has very simplistic and IMO completely uninteresting lore, but they got around that by developing a host of unique characters for the faction, something they never bothered doing for the Alliance or the Federation.
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I agree and most of the players are split bewteen the Fed. factions, but again no one is moaning about it.
I was on the feds so i know how busy Hudson faction is, it was the reason i left because to many people were doing this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/EliteHudson/comments/39fdzz/preparation_emergency/
I went to an Empire faction that was less busy but organised, which it is.
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Absolutely no chance of that being the case. Hudson is fairly popular, but Arissa is likely as or more popular (estimate based on the amount of fortification, expansion and preparation done on all factions) - and that's Arissa alone, not taking into account Aisling, who sems to have a similar level of support. Winters... well, the less said about Winters the better. Faced with one Federation faction that offers decent bonuses, and one that offers more or less nothing, players did what players do.
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Either its because its late, or because english is not my native language - but i don't have a clue what you are trying to say, at least not in the context of this thread, sorry. Care to elaborate?
I agree with your sentiment. I'm with Patreus and I tried pirating your factions ships in the last cycle in order to undermine but it was a pointless exercise. Compared with being able to destroy 'enemy' freighters for 15PPs and a substantial shift in the progress bar compared to poor yield, time consuming pirating actions isn't really engendering Imperial in-fighting (without spilling blood).
Either its because its late, or because english is not my native language - but i don't have a clue what you are trying to say, at least not in the context of this thread, sorry. Care to elaborate?
ok belt empire have 4 powers let say 2 go to dust empire dont lose any systems to alliance/inde/feds he will just have 2 stronger powers
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ok belt empire have 4 powers let say 2 go to dust empire dont lose any systems to alliance/inde/feds he will just have 2 stronger powers
Ahhh, the penny dropped. Took a while, but it dropped.
And yes, thats correct - thats the most likely scenario in case something like that would happen.Ahhh, the penny dropped. Took a while, but it dropped.
i see u r a torval guy today i got a bounty killing an npc called:torvan shield lol
Thinking about this - I wonder if it would have been better to make the Federation ... well Federal. Make the Factions associated more with Parties/Groups focused around certain Platforms than Individuals. Not to say that there wouldn't be Individual powers in the Federation - but as both the major Factions are associated with the President / Shadow President - sounds like those Factions should have been tied to Parties.