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I see. So your reply is to be insulting. Got it. Good to know.
First Discovery Tags
- Thread starter Ziggy Stardust
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I see. So your reply is to be insulting. Got it. Good to know.
You sell data to UC, not to any faction, so once sold it is "global" and they know who was first to submit a new system. You do receive a faction benefit for selling data at a station/outpost they own, but I've never heard this explained - perhaps they get a cut of all business at their stations? Who knows?
Why does each pilot get rewarded for turning in data for a system, even if it was already discovered? It's never been explained, perhaps because each pilot will scan different parts of the planet from different angles? Perhaps because up-to-date scan info is useful?
You can say it's a disincentive to newer players, but that's true of everything in a game with a persistent state. Why does an experienced player have a loaded T9 while I just have a tiny Hauler? Why does he have a beam-loaded Conda while I just have a Sidey with puny fixed pulses? Why is he Rank 5 with a Power while I'm starting off on Rank 1? Why does he have loads of money and I can barely afford my insurance? Anyone picking up the game now (for PC/Mac) is at a big disadvantage, in many ways.
I guess one solution would be to allow the option to hide the first discovered tags for those who don't want to see it. I don't really see the reason to remove them entirely, since most people quite like them.
Why does each pilot get rewarded for turning in data for a system, even if it was already discovered? It's never been explained, perhaps because each pilot will scan different parts of the planet from different angles? Perhaps because up-to-date scan info is useful?
You can say it's a disincentive to newer players, but that's true of everything in a game with a persistent state. Why does an experienced player have a loaded T9 while I just have a tiny Hauler? Why does he have a beam-loaded Conda while I just have a Sidey with puny fixed pulses? Why is he Rank 5 with a Power while I'm starting off on Rank 1? Why does he have loads of money and I can barely afford my insurance? Anyone picking up the game now (for PC/Mac) is at a big disadvantage, in many ways.
I guess one solution would be to allow the option to hide the first discovered tags for those who don't want to see it. I don't really see the reason to remove them entirely, since most people quite like them.
Well, I did spend a lot of effort writing the OP. And it's not very helpful when someone just goes: oh, so it's just ego. It leaves me thinking: why did I spend all that effort?
So excuse the jibe.
edit: which leaves me wondering ... any comment on the take on the matter of the person who created the thread? That would be a good start
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Why don't you like the tags?
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Since I responded in that thread as well, I'll just do the same.
It's data that I don't need plastered all over the chart - stick it in the left info panel, or preferably make it optional. Choice is good, yes?
Oh I see, you don't want it cluttering up the screen. That's a valid complaint.
An on/off switch would be good for that yeah. And many other blurbs of information as well.
I agree .. on / off choice on the display is a good idea.
Forgive ignorance here, but do you actually have to scan the object to get first discovery tag .. or is "honking" enough (and if it's never been honked before, it's yours?) I'd say there's probably good argument for saying you should have to actively scan to get the tag, although that particular horse has probably long since bolted?
<grins>So kind of you, amigo! Yes, it is a valid complaint - but it will no doubt be ignored!
Do I remember this aright: was this feature only introduced after lobbying by some players?
What I got from Ziggys post was the feeling that even if he came across someone elses tag it meant something to be there.
Personally as someone who plays solo its the only contact I ever get from other players, seeing the name up there (having a little chuckle if the names funny, or groan if it's not), It's a feeling of solidarity with someone else who has seen what I am seeing now.
and why does it matter if someones been there already......why do people climb mount Everest? or go anywhere that's been discovered already?
You indeed have to drive up to it, and scan it. Just honking won't do.
Heh, didn't mean to make that sound condescending, pologies if it did.
The clutter on the maps has irked me as well, so I can fully get why you'd not want to be bothered with it when you're just going about your business.
Dunno whether there was a lobby. Just that one day it was announced.
Yes, you have to scan the object to get the tag - 'honking' isn't enough.
Thanks Commanders .. I was trying to work it out by scanning some, not scanning others .. keeping a log, so far from base (no repair modules here, Sidewinder!) .. then getting confused by the long letter-number names .. so much easier to be able to ask!
What this forum is here for
Hmmm...yeah. OK, I'll step in this. I agree with the OP.
Two words: Christopher Colombus, Egotist Extraordinaire
Exploration is associated with who got there first (the Vikings!...right, right... but you get the point) and the tags do that. When I see a Discovered by tag, I know to start hunting for the stuff they missed (a la Lewis & Clarke")
When I decided to try out the exploring thing, my goal was to find an undiscovered rock and on it. It didn't even have to be a nice rock, but it would be tagged as "Discovered by Drake Shadow", and that made me feel all warm and fuzzy. I've seen the data and it says it will be a long time before we get remotely close to running out of new Discoveries. Maybe then a new discovery will be a bounty worth 10x what it is today.
Two words: Christopher Colombus, Egotist Extraordinaire
Exploration is associated with who got there first (the Vikings!...right, right... but you get the point) and the tags do that. When I see a Discovered by tag, I know to start hunting for the stuff they missed (a la Lewis & Clarke")
When I decided to try out the exploring thing, my goal was to find an undiscovered rock and on it. It didn't even have to be a nice rock, but it would be tagged as "Discovered by Drake Shadow", and that made me feel all warm and fuzzy. I've seen the data and it says it will be a long time before we get remotely close to running out of new Discoveries. Maybe then a new discovery will be a bounty worth 10x what it is today.
I don't mind seeing the names there, though some silly / suggestive names are a bit immersion bending.
That said, I'd be far happier if they (re)moved the new info popup on the System View, it's mostly showing info available on the left-hand panel, and tends to just block the systems that you're trying to click on. </slightly OT rant>
That said, I'd be far happier if they (re)moved the new info popup on the System View, it's mostly showing info available on the left-hand panel, and tends to just block the systems that you're trying to click on. </slightly OT rant>
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yeah that info needs to be quite a bit higher up now!
FDB tags are part ego, but also part adventure. When I first went exploring and found CMDR Fen Harel's name on a system that was fairly far out, that excited me. I wasn't bummed that someone discovered it before me, I was actually intrigued that, even if for a little bit, I had followed in someone else's footsteps. You can't tell me that you don't feel some sense of excitement when you go into a cave or hiking and you find a message or a picture scrawled somewhere (not spraypainted, hopefully). There is a story behind it. If you find my name on a planet 45kly from SOL, you should take that to mean I survived. I went out there and I came back to tell the story. It's not always about being the first, but it's nice to be recognized.
I would, however, perhaps suggest that the information be displayed in a different manner such as the side info bar. Though that may in fact worsen people's opinions about it since it wont be displayed up front.
I would, however, perhaps suggest that the information be displayed in a different manner such as the side info bar. Though that may in fact worsen people's opinions about it since it wont be displayed up front.
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I had the same feeling when I found an Earth Like smack in the middle of the Traikeou Nebula. I was bummed at first that CMDR Landolph was there before me, but I realised that we both probably were some of the few people who had been marveling at the EL in it's beautiful surrounding.
It creates a link to other CMDRs
It creates a link to other CMDRs
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It's a nice sense of community when the name you see in the First tag is one I recognize from the forums.
Or the other way around.