Enough of Powerplay - Why I unpledge

Powerplay was an addition I was very much looking forward to. But today, after 3 turns, I'll unpledge.
I am not happy with Powerplay and think it doesn't add anything positive to my game.

My main reasons:

1. The cards are stacked against me
1.1. Time of the turn
The Powerplay turn ends on Thursday, 7:00 a.m. gametime. I am a casual player. I am a family father. I have a demanding job. I am a central european. The timing alone ensures that I
- will never take part in the exciting last minute rush
- will always be at a disadvantage against American players, who can do last minute actions, while I cant
How so? Imagine two powers, one with European players, one with US West Coast players. Both have an expansion going. Both want to stop each other's expansions. Both decide that the only sensible way to do so is a last second dump. The Europeans have to either get up early, or stay up through the night (on a Wednesday). The people from the west coast have a normal wednesday evening with a bit of powerplay fun. They have all the advantages. Both parties know how many merits the others have. Both want to dump more merits than the others have prepared in the last second.

For Europeans that means to be late for work, late for school / university. Staying up later than healthy. etc. People from the US West Coast just play normally. Maybe go to bed an hour later than usually.

1.2. Bonusses
I already did a lengthy post about the Empire favoritism: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=158444
As the Powerplay mechanic starts to become defined more clearly, it becomes obvious that most of it will evolve around pouring millions of credits into expansions.
So my advantage as a Mahon player is that I have none. I am hostile in 90% of the inhabited galaxy. My bonusses amount to 5% trading bonus. Mahon's passive bonusses create a few mediocre trading routes that not only suffer from the choice of commodities, but also from having to include the second-worst possible economy on the trip, namely agricultures.
1.3. Alliance
As an Alliance player I can choose one power. Pledging will lead to me being hostile in 90% of space occupied by any powers.

So as a European Alliance player I have the deck stacked against me. And it's stacked so much that I prefer to say: Well, you apparently do not want me to play this. Otherwise you'd at least try to make it fun for me and give me a fair chance.

2. Mechanics
2.1. Combat vs. Trading
The practice of hoarding merits only to drop them at the last instance is ... i am struggling for a polite word... really bad. It is a big advantage over the trading mechanic. While the trading mechanic is superior - given unlimited funds - once you factor in the time to earn money, combat is close to being on par if not better (350 - 500 merits an hour by shooting down ships is possible, the equivalent of 3.5 - 5 million credits fast track). You need a really good trading route really close by to beat combat with ferrying merits. And that brings us back to point 1.2.... very good trading route close by? Not in Mahon space.
2.2. Fast tracking
Really? I need to click up to 10/ 15/ 20 / 25 / 50. Then click "confirm"? Then click "back to main". Then click "fast track quota", then start anew. And do so how ever long it takes to fill up my ship, which can take 492 tons? That's not a user friendly, fun game mechanic, that is a reason to program a bot. Or train a monkey.
2.3. Interdictions
So I am pledged to a power, and now I get interdicted 10 times more often than before? Like about 75% of the time I approach a control system?
2.4. Last minute drops
The whole mechanic to keep to your merits until the last minute is dumb. You shouldn't be able to hoard merits over a week. This just gives an advantage to whoever lives in a good timezone.
2.5. Powerplay mechanics itself
The powerplay mechanics are just the same old same old. The only difference is that they turn the mechanics from a credit gain into a credit sink, or a zero sum game at best. Since I don't have many credits and am a casual, I will stop pretending that powerplay is for me and stop playing it.

3. Possible cures
3.1. Alternating end dates
The end date is really my main issue. It'd be fair to rotate the end time so that everyone has the pleasure to have a 12:00 p.m. turn end every now and then.
3.2. Stop hoarding merits
Merits should be automatically turned in for combat. That way you always know the standings and the importance of the ending turn is somewhat mitigated.
3.3. Balance bonusses
Bonusses are ridiculously preferential for the Empire. Balance is needed. The bonusses genereate credits, the credits lead to direct advantages in Powerplay by being able to fast track more tons.
3.4. Alliances
Make it possible that player powers can be allies. So that you aren't punished even more for being in the Alliance, the Federation or the Independents

All in all I am not happy with powerplay.
The weekly turns in the morning, the mechanics that bring nothing new, the grind, the ridiculously unfair balance, the added toxicity in the community....

That all leads me to unpledge with Mr Mahon. Enjoy yourself, Mr Mahon, but I am out.
 
Yup.

The problem is that it is a short term goal to reach a rank and get a monetary reward and a punishing grind to regain the decayed merit.

Pledging to a faction right now is likely to be a 4 week grind to get flavor of the week module and then skip a few other factions.

Pledging to a faction SHOULD be a long-term reward. It should have an INCENTIVE to stay on board.

There IS no incentive right not to pledge to a faction and risk ones life with no reward except the one you grind.

RANK should not be the only factor to a reward but also DEDICATION - the TIME you spend in a faction.
 
There IS no incentive right not to pledge to a faction and risk ones life with no reward except the one you grind.

Well, I am pretty sure that the people taking part in the Mad Wednesday Dash (tm) are thoroughly enjoying themselves. As a european family father with a job I will never be able to take part in that one, since it happens while I sleep and ends while I boot up my computer at work.
 
My problem is I am going on leave in a couple of weeks, will be away from any form of PC, so I will be decaying like mad, and then probably I will go exploring so I will be starting from scratch when I get back. The loyalty of four weeks hard work will be demotion and a pay cut. I am not interested in the module foibles. I powerplay for added immersion. I will stay pledged during the time I am away, and start again when I get back.
 
As a german player, have my rep for that.
I don't like the circumstance, that once you pledged, you are hostile in all other systems.
And I hope FD implementing other benefits and bonuses for the (play it your way)-players as well. I like to be the lone wolf (Smuggler, Bounty) and I want something as a goal. Some special equipment or whatever... not only the grind for ranks and rep.
 
I decided very early on in Beta I would never pledge. PP is a grind fest. Totally useless for the casual player and people who actually have to work for a living.
 
LOL, i have child and job, i'm playing only 3-4hours after my working day. 1 week on 2 i'm far away from my PC, and i easily maintain my rank3 in PP and have a great fun with it...
 
LOL, i have child and job, i'm playing only 3-4hours after my working day. 1 week on 2 i'm far away from my PC, and i easily maintain my rank3 in PP and have a great fun with it...

ONLY 3-4 hours per day.

Yes, you MANAGE to keep a rank by playing 21+ hours a week GRINDING merits.

Just because you manage it does not mean the gameplay mechanics itself are flawed.
 
As a new player I was going to look into this part of the game today but after reading the OP I think this is a part of the game for those with a lot more time than I do. I work 11 hours a day and only have a few hours a night and the weekends to play.

Just like so many other games all the good stuff is kept just for the USA players (No offence intended to our friends across the pond).

Maybe one day FD will remember that it is based in Europe and maybe change things so the rest of the world get a look in on this 7a.m. event.

So for now at least PP is of no more interest to me.
 
ONLY 3-4 hours per day.

Yes, you MANAGE to keep a rank by playing 21+ hours a week GRINDING merits.

Just because you manage it does not mean the gameplay mechanics itself are flawed.

Absolutely not !! All my playtime is not dedicated to PP. I have never grind a single merit ! I have fun with my mate in expansion system, i have fun in other pp controlled system, i make my trade, i make pvp in my own controlled system in order to help my power mate to live peacefull... Well i just play the game and have fun...

I'm sorry, but, if you don't play a game (any video game) 2-3-4h after work, you'de better to do anything else...

Can you explain me what you'll win if the end cycle wasn't now but later ??? Nothing, because you alone are nothing, and even if you play 24h a day, alone you'll still nothing.
 
Last edited:
As a new player I was going to look into this part of the game today but after reading the OP I think this is a part of the game for those with a lot more time than I do. I work 11 hours a day and only have a few hours a night and the weekends to play.

Just like so many other games all the good stuff is kept just for the USA players (No offence intended to our friends across the pond).

Maybe one day FD will remember that it is based in Europe and maybe change things so the rest of the world get a look in on this 7a.m. event.

So for now at least PP is of no more interest to me.

Power Play is not for the new player, this has been quoted by David Braben. Its a game for the super rich, as in real life, never seen a poor politician. I thought I was fairly well of until I saw that most people are spending millions on fast tracking merits.
Come back to power play when you have about 10 billion spare, until then enjoy what the rest of the galaxy has to offer.
 
I'm going to really hope you haven't done that yet, OP. Just one more week plus working up to rank 3 will get you access to your power's special module. Wouldn't you want to secure one first, then unpledge?
 
As a new player I was going to look into this part of the game today but after reading the OP I think this is a part of the game for those with a lot more time than I do. I work 11 hours a day and only have a few hours a night and the weekends to play.

As a casual player it's much more fun playing the background sim. At least you feel like you can make a difference there.
 
ONLY 3-4 hours per day.

Yes, you MANAGE to keep a rank by playing 21+ hours a week GRINDING merits.

Just because you manage it does not mean the gameplay mechanics itself are flawed.

Lol no.

If you were so inclined, it would take you a mere 5 hours a week to 'grind' to 10 000 merits and obviously a shorter time every subsequent week due to diminishing merit decay. That's less than 1 hour a day. My current merit count is in the 5 figures and I have not spent a cent that I have not recovered with bounty hunting and also not grinded to any degree so you Gents who are adamant that PP is a grind really, really need to take a step back, evaluate, come up with an intelligent strategy and try it once or twice.

You'll realize that maintaining Rating #4 is ludicrously easy with the minimal amount of effort. For those more adventurous, Rating #5 is, as said, completely attainable with a bit more effort and monetary investment. I say investment because what I have invested in merits I have managed to recover at least two-fold due to bounty-hunting 100% bonuses. And then there's the 100 million credit salary to date as well.....and all this for the time spent I would have spent in any event had PP not been there. Yes, I am a Father, a family man with limited time so I do not grind 24/7. I do however micro-manage my time very well.

If I can do it then anybody can. At least try it before bashing on it.
 
LOL, i have child and job, i'm playing only 3-4hours after my working day. 1 week on 2 i'm far away from my PC, and i easily maintain my rank3 in PP and have a great fun with it...

I have great fun with Elite Dangerous. With Powerplay... not so much. The exitement happens when I sleep, and the rewards are for other people, but not for me.

I am rank 4, btw. This is not about having to grind or having to invest a lot of time I don't have. I am fully aware that I cannot have it all as a casual player.
 
Imagine two powers, one with European players, one with US West Coast players. Both have an expansion going. Both want to stop each other's expansions. Both decide that the only sensible way to do so is a last second dump. The Europeans have to either get up early, or stay up through the night (on a Wednesday).

Heh like an eBay auction.
 
Agree with everything in the OP, and really sorry to see you off team Mahon - but completely understand.

I've had a number of times when I've started to log on, then thought "Meh, what's the point." To do the things I want to do I have to grind, and grind, and grind...

And, re Charognard, 3-4 hours per night is a HUGE amount of time to be playing if you have a family. Your call, man, but if I was doing that I'd be cutting down below 4 hours sleep a night - and the dude needs his beauty sleep!
 
Back
Top Bottom