Any way to increase exploration rank....illegally?

I started a new series a couple of weeks back where I can only make money through illegal activity - however I can't take most of the "find me some military plans" etc missions because they require a higher exploration rank than harmless. Does anyone know of any way to increase exploration rank without making money, or making money on illegal exploration?
 
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Well, you still get exploration data for any system you travel to, so as long as you travel while performing illegal activities... yes?
 
Yes but you only get rank by selling the data, which goes against my "can only make money illegally" thing.

Or do you mean I can just RP it? :p I guess that could work...
 
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If there was a way to be data pirate, this might work. Where, somehow you sneak up on an explorer and drop a hacking limpet on their ship and drain out the data.

Luckily, at least from my perspective, there is no way to do that.

It's an interesting sort of way to RP, though. You might just have to increase the rank the legal way in order to facilitate your illegal doings.
 
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Force explorers at gunpoint to sell data to a station of your choosing to help a criminal faction, not sure how you could enforce it.
Sell data specifically to pirate or unaffiliated stations to boost rep gain and influence of a criminal faction.

Thats really all i can think of.
 
You can make yourself WANTED in a system by shooting authorities, then smuggle yourself into a station and sell the data. That would be mildly illegal. Not what you're looking for, but , still...
 
Join a faction - explore the other factions systems and sell the data back to your faction. Essentially you are spying on the other faction. This would be illegal in that faction's space - in Role-Playing terms of course.

You would consider yourself a Privateer in this case. You could then of course defect from the first faction and sell THEIR data back to a previous faction.
 
I started a new series a couple of weeks back where I can only make money through illegal activity - however I can't take most of the "find me some military plans" etc missions because they require a higher exploration rank than harmless. Does anyone know of any way to increase exploration rank without making money, or making money on illegal exploration?

Get a frame shift wake scanner and follow a real explorer... then turn around and sell the data first to get the first discovered bonus ;)
 
Join a faction - explore the other factions systems and sell the data back to your faction. Essentially you are spying on the other faction. This would be illegal in that faction's space - in Role-Playing terms of course.

You would consider yourself a Privateer in this case. You could then of course defect from the first faction and sell THEIR data back to a previous faction.
i think thats the best suggestion to do it the "illegal" way

everything else, like following another explorer or stealing data - if it would be possible (we're living in 34th century - data encryption to protect someones data should go without saying) - is just like murishani said:

it's just being a jerk.
and pretty stupid too ;)
 
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Join a faction - explore the other factions systems and sell the data back to your faction. Essentially you are spying on the other faction. This would be illegal in that faction's space - in Role-Playing terms of course.

You would consider yourself a Privateer in this case. You could then of course defect from the first faction and sell THEIR data back to a previous faction.

Good idea - think I might use that one!

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Wow some great ideas - you guys have way more imagination than I have lol.
 
As you'd be an enemy of the faction you are spying on, you'll not find it easy to scan the planets as you'd be lingering in the system with the real possibility of being interdicted - this adds some tension to the situation AND means to role-play it properly you must scan every body in the system (including asteroids)
 
OK how about this:
Currently scanning/exploring is silly, in that the galactic view knows what type of star it is, but when you arrive your computer doesn't until you scan it, (which is silly), also as soon as you scan the system you get images of the planets, but the computer still doesn't know what they are until you do a surface scan - at which time they out to be (generally) exactly what was pictured, (which is also silly). Also the surface scanner knows nothing....nothing....nothing...EVERYTHING 100% correct (which is a third type of silly).

So how about adding some uncertainty - the galactic view suggests a Dwarf M-type, but when you get there it might be something slightly different - not a black hole, but a similar star type - so you are correcting a mistake. When you scan a system you initially get locations and not much more - then as you get closer / do surface scans you can get mass, then type, then temperatures, and only get the full detection of life forms, terraformable etc after a long scan or a close scan. So when you return, you might have partial or incomplete data on some systems.

Now how about if certain black markets were able to sell a service which would 'fill-in' those blanks in your scanning data - by 'making it up'. So you could come back from a trip to the void, visit a black market dealer and increase the value of your data, by adding to it. Then when somebody else visits that same start system and does a scan, and returns to sell their data - that data might conflict with yours - and payment might be withheld until a 3rd person could visit and arbitrate. This might create some good missions - visit system x scan planet y and get temperature data etc. If you are caught trying to sell dodgy data, then you could be fined or have a penance to pay acting as arbiter on other dodgy scans. If you sell it first then of course you are long gone.

How about if payment was related not just to what you find, but the level of correction you apply. So if the galactic map says it's a fuel scoopable star, but it actually isn't - that's very useful and worth more than finding it is exactly what people looking through telescopes thought it was. But you might doctor your data to claim it's a black hole, generating more money, but thus prevent people from including it in fuelling routes. Correcting this would be valuable public service - thus exploring becomes to some degree useful and joined-up.

Wouldn't it be great if the galaxy map had locations, (object unknown), probable types, (seen through telescope or visited once), and confirmed star types, (visited twice or more)? This would allows for some illegal activity, some uncertainty and some ultimate purpose in mapping the galaxy.
 
As you'd be an enemy of the faction you are spying on, you'll not find it easy to scan the planets as you'd be lingering in the system with the real possibility of being interdicted - this adds some tension to the situation AND means to role-play it properly you must scan every body in the system (including asteroids)

Haha. No.

As a criminal I'll always take the easy money option so advanced disco and nothing else :p
 
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OK how about this:
Currently scanning/exploring is silly, in that the galactic view knows what type of star it is, but when you arrive your computer doesn't until you scan it, (which is silly), also as soon as you scan the system you get images of the planets, but the computer still doesn't know what they are until you do a surface scan - at which time they out to be (generally) exactly what was pictured, (which is also silly). Also the surface scanner knows nothing....nothing....nothing...EVERYTHING 100% correct (which is a third type of silly).

So how about adding some uncertainty - the galactic view suggests a Dwarf M-type, but when you get there it might be something slightly different - not a black hole, but a similar star type - so you are correcting a mistake. When you scan a system you initially get locations and not much more - then as you get closer / do surface scans you can get mass, then type, then temperatures, and only get the full detection of life forms, terraformable etc after a long scan or a close scan. So when you return, you might have partial or incomplete data on some systems.

Now how about if certain black markets were able to sell a service which would 'fill-in' those blanks in your scanning data - by 'making it up'. So you could come back from a trip to the void, visit a black market dealer and increase the value of your data, by adding to it. Then when somebody else visits that same start system and does a scan, and returns to sell their data - that data might conflict with yours - and payment might be withheld until a 3rd person could visit and arbitrate. This might create some good missions - visit system x scan planet y and get temperature data etc. If you are caught trying to sell dodgy data, then you could be fined or have a penance to pay acting as arbiter on other dodgy scans. If you sell it first then of course you are long gone.

How about if payment was related not just to what you find, but the level of correction you apply. So if the galactic map says it's a fuel scoopable star, but it actually isn't - that's very useful and worth more than finding it is exactly what people looking through telescopes thought it was. But you might doctor your data to claim it's a black hole, generating more money, but thus prevent people from including it in fuelling routes. Correcting this would be valuable public service - thus exploring becomes to some degree useful and joined-up.

Wouldn't it be great if the galaxy map had locations, (object unknown), probable types, (seen through telescope or visited once), and confirmed star types, (visited twice or more)? This would allows for some illegal activity, some uncertainty and some ultimate purpose in mapping the galaxy.

Nice ideas to discuss... I'm not sure why you posted them in this topic though.
 
Psst... wanna buy some exploration data? No, honest guvner, its kosher.... well, maybe it fell of the back of a Hauler, but its good stuff! Look, let's call it a grand, and ill throw in some onionhead to seal the deal!
 
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