The Powerplay discussion thread.
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Well, if you don't really understand what it is, don't click it. Or if you decide to click it, be prepared to get surprised.
There's no reason for anyone to put up warnings for people who doesn't want to read.
I myself like to try something and experience it for myself without reading the rules first, so I can figure them out as I go. I enjoy that.
That said I am, and staying unaligned for now, playing in Open as always.
There's no reason for anyone to put up warnings for people who doesn't want to read.
I myself like to try something and experience it for myself without reading the rules first, so I can figure them out as I go. I enjoy that.
That said I am, and staying unaligned for now, playing in Open as always.
Sorry you had a bad experience friend...I have been playing open since release...and had only a handful of pvp action....But ya gotta remember and keep in mind...this game there is no "flag" for pvp...you cant turn it on or off...Its called Elite Dangerous for a reason...anytime you play open, you agree to these terms....clicking open essentially clicks your pvp flag on.
Sorry youre running back to solo....for some players, what you experienced by getting killed by another player is content...its a risk that makes this game exciting and fun for me....and you will never find this thrill in solo or group play.
Read the power play instructions before gobbing off, once you choose a faction an opposing faction is quite entitled to shoot you down wether it be player or npc, it's all explained quite clearly. Open hasn't changed for me in all the time it's been running but I guess if you didn't like it before you won't like it now. Speak for yourself, open is not broken !
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It is a PP. When you pick one Power, you are a legitimate target for all other Powers. Not only human CMDRs, but also for NPCs (at least I think so).
This is one of the reasons why I do not play PP.
I think your aggressive response serves you well in PvP? Not great here.
OP - sorry you had a bad experience. It is badly explained. It is certainly not clear that PP now means some opposing powers will automatically register you as hostile. I would however genuinely urge you to rethink on abandoning open because of this. I'm not really a PvP type person, but PP offers more interesting and dangerous gameplay. If that is not your bag unpledge and you will find that within a few days you will show as no faction and won't be a target.
Atb
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So you didn't understand it, and didn't research it, nor did you use the manuals and how-to videos that are available, but you're throwing a hissy-fit and blaming FD for "tricking" you into being being shot down?
However much stick FD gets on this forums, even its most persistent critics have to admit that this was entirely your own fault and this thread is nothing but your sour grapes.
However much stick FD gets on this forums, even its most persistent critics have to admit that this was entirely your own fault and this thread is nothing but your sour grapes.
The worst part of all this is that he even has the option to go Solo or private group. The designs on this game seem to have gone off the rails ever since they dropped offline to make it an "MMO", but then forgot the basic MMO parts like client-server technology, large instances, global chat, and more. Now you've got a system in powerplay that really is designed to be played in Open in large player instances where powers can band together to interrupt activities, but it's pasted on this fractured patchwork of gameplay decisions which results in players simply doing powerplay activities in private group or solo - therefore removing any chance of players countering the activity.
Take Fortify for example. What can be done by a Power that wants to fortify a system, to prevent another power from undermining it? They can't blockade the system because the opfor will just go solo or private. It's stupid. Very frustrated with this PP system after several cycles - it looked so promising at the start but like many things with this game, in practice it just falls apart.
Take Fortify for example. What can be done by a Power that wants to fortify a system, to prevent another power from undermining it? They can't blockade the system because the opfor will just go solo or private. It's stupid. Very frustrated with this PP system after several cycles - it looked so promising at the start but like many things with this game, in practice it just falls apart.
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There are four tutorial videos FD did which explain things really well and you can check them out on their youtube channel. When you select to pledge to a power it does give a legit reason for those in another one to consider you an enemy and attack you, although Fed on Fed and Empire on Empire is discouraged. I think it gives a bit more meaning to PvP but nevertheless even if you don't have a faction people can still attack you for 'no reason'.
However maybe Open isn't for you..Elite Dangerou..and all that. I wish they would remove solo and p/g its ruining the game in my view. Ultimately we all lose ships from time to time, its part of the game
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The Galaxy is a dangerous place.
It's kind of like Milton Keynes. If you're walking around on your own... Youre asking for it. But if you've got a posse then you is da man. Haha. Seriously it's awesome. But you gotta comvimce yourself it's awesome first and really pretend you're out there..,
It's kind of like Milton Keynes. If you're walking around on your own... Youre asking for it. But if you've got a posse then you is da man. Haha. Seriously it's awesome. But you gotta comvimce yourself it's awesome first and really pretend you're out there..,
The MMO part was there from the first KS information, the "All players group" (aka Open Mode). Offline was later talked about and FD said if they could they would.
(Check post 3 of the Solo/Group/Open mega thread - it's all there with the links)
As for PP, I've answered you in another thread about that just. But as you are thread jumping posting it, looks like I'll have to repost;
You "counter" in PP by fortifying there system. PvP was never the plan for ED or PP. Blockades were talked about by DBOBE and FD clearly stated the only blockades that will be in game, is if they put one - there will not be play run blockades.
This is a PvE game that lets people PvP by choice - it does not force PvP on people who do not want it.
It's not an aggressive response at all, I'm sorry you see it that way and I don't like pvp any better than most, I avoid it but I only ever play open. I am however a little tired of these threads by guys that don't read up on stuff and launch straight it then start a thread on here complaining about everything when the player who destroyed him was doing what the game allows him to do. It is not badly explained at all it is quite clearly in the pp instructions, it's the only bit I did understand at first about PP.
Many of these people won't tell you; but don't forget PP can be played SOLO or in a group. Check on the response from NPC factions; may be a tad more appropriate. And the good part;- remember the large power mongers, cant' blockade you when in Solo.
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I kind of have to agree with those above that by not researching PP at all you are at fault, and trust me I am quite critical of PP and think it is god awful. I simple search of posts about PP on the forums would have revealed several that are critical of the fact that by aligning with any power turns 9/10 of inhabited space hostile to you, which I find just silly but alas it is what it is.
Perfectly said
I replied in the other thread.
Sorry dude, but I can explain you the reasons why you got killed:
You didn't care about what you clicked when selecting a faction -> your fault!
You didn't care about reading any explanation for PP before playing it -> your fault!
You entered hostile territory -> your fault!
and finally
You weren't good enough to win the fight or even survive the interdiction -> mainly your fault
So guess who's fault it is, that you got killed at all? Righty right! YOURS!!!
I'm getting sick of threads like "PP ruined it for me" or "PP ruined it for all" or "FD ruined the game"...
You didn't care about what you clicked when selecting a faction -> your fault!
You didn't care about reading any explanation for PP before playing it -> your fault!
You entered hostile territory -> your fault!
and finally
You weren't good enough to win the fight or even survive the interdiction -> mainly your fault
So guess who's fault it is, that you got killed at all? Righty right! YOURS!!!
I'm getting sick of threads like "PP ruined it for me" or "PP ruined it for all" or "FD ruined the game"...
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And where precisely does this....
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=152185
.....clearly explain the risks of PvP due to PowerPlay pledging?
Where does the in game PP interface explain it clearly?
OP is a bit over the top perhaps. Perhaps he could have independently assumed that there might be a risk. But "carebear" "hissy fit" "YOURS" etc etc is not constructive.
Well done. I'm slow clapping you for your understanding and positive natures.
My .02.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=152185
.....clearly explain the risks of PvP due to PowerPlay pledging?
Where does the in game PP interface explain it clearly?
OP is a bit over the top perhaps. Perhaps he could have independently assumed that there might be a risk. But "carebear" "hissy fit" "YOURS" etc etc is not constructive.
Well done. I'm slow clapping you for your understanding and positive natures.
My .02.
Where is it explained, that boosting into an asteroid will kill you? Where is it explained, that jumping out of a window from the 5th floor will kill you? Where is it explained, that... whatever...
Do you do all those things, because you didn't know where it was explained to you?
Oh... probably just because writing whiny posts is not killing you guys... that's the reason!