Is it time for KickStarter Mk2?

FatzDomingo

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I was so exited about the prospect of getting my mitts on Elite for a new generation of computers that could do its visuals justice. I appreciate that it's very much a work still in progress, I took the "punt" of buying the XBox One version as well (and a very good job the Devs have done here too)

I am having some issues/problems setting up my New Saitek x52 Pro, but have been getting excellent advice from the Community, and help from the Devs via support ticket? Thank you one and all, I will get there in the end I trust!

All in all, I am chuffed with the game experience and most certainly do NOT want it to expire prematurely for any reason whatsoever. To that end, I am most happy to contribute £100 to any new KickStarter/CrowdFunding drive to ensure its continued development an existence. I really enjoyed the previous Elites, I want the chance to enjoy this one for many years to come.

(PS. If there is going to be a new funding drive, someone at Frontier email me with where to send my "punt")
 

xaduha

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If you want to support the game you can buy paint jobs. I'm not going to give Frontier another cent, though.

I don't think that Frontier delivered a proper game yet. I consider 1.2 to be a real release, because what we had before wasn't that different from Gamma. That means 1.3 was a first real update. I didn't care for it. So, I'm waiting for that Gamescom announcement.

Limited and quite expensive Chrome Viper paint job that I bought didn't look that good in the game (possibly affected by the graphics nerf). And there's no reason for me to use a Viper anyway.
 

Coolgroove

Coolgroove
No need for Kickstarter. PC, Mac, Steam, XBox give good sales channels. Pre-order for new expansion + Paid beta access pass (for those who don't have it) + more ship visual customisations in store = will be better.
 

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Erimus Kamzel

Erimus Kamzel
I'll never back another kickstarter again. I was wary in the first place but the fact David Braben put his name to this one, and seeing the enthusiasm behind the dev diaries he made, convinced me to back it. Then the DDF proposals got me excited enough to up that initial pledge.

At the moment I don't think what we have was worth the investment. ED feels like a whole lot of placeholders patched together. Maybe in a years time I'll feel different when some meat is added to the bones, but at the moment I'm loathed to give Frontier Developments another penny, and have been put off the whole kickstarter experience for good.

A second kickstarter at this point would be more like a kick in the teeth.
 

PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
Erimus said:
... ED feels like a whole lot of placeholders patched together ...
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Well, I for one can't wait for your videos when it's less as you feel above :) Seriously mate, excellent job!

For everyone else - follow the links in Erimus' sig for some truly lovely video's - well worth 10 minutes of anyone's time.
 

Jason S

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FatzDomingo said:
I was so exited about the prospect of getting my mitts on Elite for a new generation of computers that could do its visuals justice. I appreciate that it's very much a work still in progress, I took the "punt" of buying the XBox One version as well (and a very good job the Devs have done here too)

I am having some issues/problems setting up my New Saitek x52 Pro, but have been getting excellent advice from the Community, and help from the Devs via support ticket? Thank you one and all, I will get there in the end I trust!

All in all, I am chuffed with the game experience and most certainly do NOT want it to expire prematurely for any reason whatsoever. To that end, I am most happy to contribute £100 to any new KickStarter/CrowdFunding drive to ensure its continued development an existence. I really enjoyed the previous Elites, I want the chance to enjoy this one for many years to come.

(PS. If there is going to be a new funding drive, someone at Frontier email me with where to send my "punt")
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Kickstarters that offer just token returns, i.e. 'donation only (charity)' kickstarters tend not to do very well.
 

Cmnd Fulsom

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FatzDomingo said:
I was so exited about the prospect of getting my mitts on Elite for a new generation of computers that could do its visuals justice. I appreciate that it's very much a work still in progress, I took the "punt" of buying the XBox One version as well (and a very good job the Devs have done here too)

I am having some issues/problems setting up my New Saitek x52 Pro, but have been getting excellent advice from the Community, and help from the Devs via support ticket? Thank you one and all, I will get there in the end I trust!

All in all, I am chuffed with the game experience and most certainly do NOT want it to expire prematurely for any reason whatsoever. To that end, I am most happy to contribute £100 to any new KickStarter/CrowdFunding drive to ensure its continued development an existence. I really enjoyed the previous Elites, I want the chance to enjoy this one for many years to come.

(PS. If there is going to be a new funding drive, someone at Frontier email me with where to send my "punt")
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No. The game is out, it's released, it's in the wild. It is well past the point that the devs should be panhandling to get more money for the game. They have a product, let the product support itself or die, it's the law of the jungle. As people have pointed out there is a shop where you can buy merch and ship skins so if you want to put more money into it buy those. I for one intend to buy the soundtrack because the sound design in this game is excellent. But that purchase is after the Styx: Master of Shadows soundtrack because the Styx composition blows Elite's out of the water (seriously, those slowly creeping strings scores send a shiver down my spine) unfortunately no hard copy of that exists, but fortunately you also get to name your price, so, figuring out how much would be fair for such an amazing product.

Point is, Kickstarter is for getting investments without giving equity in the product or company, based entirely on good faith, before you have a product to sell to support your efforts. Elite is a product now, the market place gets to decided if it lives or dies and if you want to make a donation to the company do it. Write a check it's you're money. But it would be a bad PR idea to come out now and ask consumers to give money for the development of a product that already exists for rewards I can only assume would be pretty much nonexistant.

Stay frosty
 
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Lobstris

Lobstris
Single player FFE + Graphics update + iWar/iWar2 systems + Random event generator + Faction-based pseudo dynamic campaign generator = HEAVEN. :)
 

Wellington

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FatzDomingo said:
I was so exited about the prospect of getting my mitts on Elite for a new generation of computers that could do its visuals justice. I appreciate that it's very much a work still in progress, I took the "punt" of buying the XBox One version as well (and a very good job the Devs have done here too)

I am having some issues/problems setting up my New Saitek x52 Pro, but have been getting excellent advice from the Community, and help from the Devs via support ticket? Thank you one and all, I will get there in the end I trust!

All in all, I am chuffed with the game experience and most certainly do NOT want it to expire prematurely for any reason whatsoever. To that end, I am most happy to contribute £100 to any new KickStarter/CrowdFunding drive to ensure its continued development an existence. I really enjoyed the previous Elites, I want the chance to enjoy this one for many years to come.

(PS. If there is going to be a new funding drive, someone at Frontier email me with where to send my "punt")
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Considering HOW the guys/gals who backed/pre-ordered were treated, I really do think that this would be the WORST idea ever........ FD has lost all credibility in many players eyes and having the utter nerve to ask for MORE? NO just NO!!
 

Crash1099

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Got an idea.

Give it more then 10 years. I want to see tons of ships big and small. They could make more money with constant dlc in this game.
 

Cmnd Fulsom

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I'm not sure how I would feel about that kind of DLC, so far Frontier has been pretty even handed when it comes to the pay to win stuff, as in, it doesn't exist in Elite. Selling skins, fine, selling merch, fine, selling in game ships, that would be a crock of .

Now, I can see DLC for the meaningful expansions they intend to add to the game. But they need to come up with a better business model in the mean time. People won't except a subscription service, and they won't except bull pay to win DLC. I could conceive of more game related merchandise, an art book, like the one they promised but have yet to deliver on would be a good start. A series of free in universe animated shorts to drive interest and sales might help, more fiction could be an option, but over all, what frontier really needs is to improve the core of their game so their customers can start recommending the game. I love the game, but I can't in good conscience tell people to spend sixty bucks on it in its current state. They need to add key features, multiple character slots, a real economy, better ways for players to organize, deeper more varied combat, more outfitting options, more commodities, in universe "characters" who are better characterized and actually even a little smart (seriously, federation, we already know how to end the slave trade it's called hiring privateers and making the slaves a better offer), on that note: making pirating not complete ass; that would be nice right? Seriously guys a module that delays FSD charges it is far, FAR too easy to run away right now (and I get it, it needs to be possible to run so that the attacker just doesn't always win, but as has been pointed out right now trading is all reward and no risk something needs to give.

These are just the things that come to mind off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more.

Stay frosty
 
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Samosa

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Why do these threads keep popping up, with some bizarre assumption that FD is broke?

More money won't make Frontier do what you want, whatever that may be.
 

Cmnd Fulsom

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Frontier themselves bring it up: when pressed about their expansion to other systems when they openly admit their game is unfinished their usual response is that they need the money so they can continue to support and develop the game. So it's no wonder, when Frontier themselves seem so fixated on the issue, that players would get the impression that their might be some financial issues in the background.

Stay frosty
 
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