Send it to Nerd3 to tack on to his recent review or any of the other high profile reviewers. Nothing gets policies changed like bad press.
FYI: user posts a video of a cheater who clearly admits it, laughing about FD soft hand, and FD take immediate action
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After considering the odds against the cheater being caught the deterant punishment should be equally high or in greater extreme. The cheater knows they are cheating and if their IP is known, it should be permanently erased from the open universe. I'm sure part of the gaming license bought covers the issue of " I won't deliberately attempt to destroy other users' gaming enjoyment by artificial enhancement of my own sad existence ".
Go buy a shotgun FD, we'd be behind you!
Go buy a shotgun FD, we'd be behind you!
Well In the dayz mod there was a point where a lot of players were hacking and they were forced to do something, I have many old videos on youtube showing where our play was ruined by hackers in multiple servers
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They perma ban players there and force them to rebuy the game to hack again, the same should apply here, also I think if you've been caught cheating a big red tag saying "CHEATER" should appear when selecting a CMDR who had cheated, screw the name and shame, I want to know if people have been cheating and know to avoid them, FD will lose more customers if people think it's a game full of hackers (which in time it will become if people can easily get away with a lousy 1 week slap on the wrist)
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They perma ban players there and force them to rebuy the game to hack again, the same should apply here, also I think if you've been caught cheating a big red tag saying "CHEATER" should appear when selecting a CMDR who had cheated, screw the name and shame, I want to know if people have been cheating and know to avoid them, FD will lose more customers if people think it's a game full of hackers (which in time it will become if people can easily get away with a lousy 1 week slap on the wrist)
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Ok. And you would say the same if it'd be your personal company to ban customers who paid your product? Honestly...
BTW, I think those cheaters are kids and losers, so I don't think they would start a class action against FD for them being banned. But it still is a delicate matter.
I read on Reddit that the cheaters were saying if they get perma-banned they'd just buy another account. For me, if I had the video evidence that they'd cheated then I'd just go ahead and ban them. If they have lots of money they might end up buying lots of accounts.
Exactly how I feel.
If they want to rebuy the game, then that helps Frontier.
Restricting access to the game should never be done automatically. Over at World of Tanks, people have already proven repeatedly that it is possible to get banned for doing absolutely nothing wrong.
I would like to know how Rizal72 knows this is actually his banmail and not a very effective troll
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Well, I don't. He knew nothing serious was coming, that he made clear in chat. So we're looking at a guy who had already been caught and received just a warning. A week shadow ban for both insulting other players and cheating is completely inappropriate for a repeat offender.
Also don't allow them to make credits and keep them in sideys forever.
I totally agree with both of these comments, and while computer games are just games, and I understand that "Frontier" are trying to be fair and hope that they change there "hacking" practices and play nicely, sadly the reality is that "some people are just"... Its is sad that some of these people are Beta backers, and that they are doing this to deliberately to undermine both this game and Frontier, because they want to see this game fail. Personally I wish that Frontier, would act on aggressively on there actions as any other business would when faced with individuals trying to maliciously harm there business.
Be aware that they also have alternative accounts, many being "Beta" which they like to "keep clean" if a link can be legally and properly established between "clean" and "Hack" accounts, then they should loss both.
There will always be some element of Hacking and Exploiting in any game that is Online, sadly, but that does not make it either acceptable or right.
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Except Combat Logging is allowed. They do get 12secs to get griefed! It also takes 2 to tango. Why fight someone who does not wish it? If they can not run then they have no other option = Combat Log.
I thought the term "Combat Logging" was generally applied to those who yank their network connection or kill process, or something similar; i.e. they don't get the 12 second log off timer. And that isn't allowed. Technically speaking. It still happens, obviously.
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Which law would that be?
As far as I know from reading their forum, they are smart enough to buy second-hand for half price
Combat logging is classed as an exploit : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=105778
Leaving through the menu is technically fine but if you get caught on video doing it you'll get reported anyway and end up on multiple group kos lists because it looks exactly the same as yanking your cable out and it's incredibly dishonourable.
If you don't want to have the chance to be attacked randomly or pirated (which is legitimate gameplay) then don't go in to open or petition FD to create proper low/high security space like a lot of people have done since beta.
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Against a confirmed hacker/script kiddie I'd say combat logging - yanking the cable to be absolutely specific - should be mandatory!
That's the only time I would consider it ok but the sensible thing is to video the hacker and report it to fd first.
The main thing that bothers me about combat logging is that there's a massive culture of people saying it's ok on the official forums even after FD have said it's not. It should be stamped out as it wrecks the game for open players.
It's the same with cheating, everyone knows FD is a light touch so there's nothing to dissuade them. Remember the guy with infinite shields sitting in a station entrance shooting players? He got like a day shadow ban and then did it again a week later and then got a week shadow ban. It's ridiculous. FD should be wiping saves before shadow banning. even if they are cheating by leaving their pcs on all night in solo grinding out credits, if they're wiped back to a sidewinder then it's their time they're wasting and it would discourage people from doing it.
I think I remember that one - in fact I think I shadowplayed the live stream of it as it was playing on Twitch. If they aren't going to ban them properly despite them being proven hackers they should at least highlight them in game somehow so the rest of us can treat them accordingly.
Probably for the same reason the Criminal Justice System don't tattoo "Theif" or "Murderer" on people's foreheads.
The only way to deal with cheaters is to permanently move them to the shadow server.
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