Do You think This Is Cheating...

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Majinvash

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Its not cheating, the PVE of the community will be screaming its working as intended but the reality is its exploiting a system, which I am sure deep down DB didn't envisage.

Using easy mode to avoid danger and then change back into Open when its safe, cowards solution.

Its totally lame.

Either play in Open or play in easy mode but make your choice.

If you use it to avoid danger, its no better than the cheats who use the 15 seconds log out to save their pretend ship from dying.
Then they will cry "Working as intended" as they log into solo, fly to a station and the log back into open feeling like champions for out smarting the nasty PVP'er.
 
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Cheating? No..

Shameful..... well opinions will vary so it's down to your own conscience and no amount of pats on the back or cries of "shame!" in the forum can really decide that for you.

What always puzzles me about these kinds of situations is why play in Open at all if you are ultimately prepared to jump back into solo to avoid losing some cargo or your ship? Why not just truck the cargo in solo to start with?
 
Its not cheating, the PVE of the community will be screaming its working as intended but the reality is its exploiting a system, which I am sure deep down DB didn't envisage.

Yep. It's not cheating but it is exploiting the system.

Kind of like jumping a single ship in a wing of 3 in order to completely unbalance the "fight" - that's also exploiting. So all the Op did was use one exploit to avoid someone else using a different exploit. Completely reasonable.
 
Using easy mode to avoid danger and then change back into Open when it safe, cowards solution.

Its totally lame.

And exploiting broken Eagle heat mechanics, belittling other players, using 3rd party tools and gloating that some players didn't read a3rd party website isn't? :D
 
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Its not cheating, the PVE of the community will be screaming its working as intended but the reality is its exploiting a system, which I am sure deep down DB didn't envisage.

Using easy mode to avoid danger and then change back into Open when its safe, cowards solution.

Its totally lame.

Either play in Open or play in easy mode but make your choice.

If you use it to avoid danger, its no better than the cheats who use the 15 seconds log out to save their pretend ship from dying.
Then they will cry "Working as intended" as they log into solo, fly to a station and the log back into open feeling like champions for out smarting the nasty PVP'er.

Easy mode - so who would that be then? The player on their own setup for trading or the wing of 4 setup for combat.

Why are you so worried about pretend "blowing up" someone's "pretend" spaceship?

Also - this is a classic example of why some people shouldn't have access to a report button - they don't understand how the game works so they report someone dropping out of SC as combat logging. Just wasting FD support time.
 
A wing of 3 (Clipper, Asp, Vulture (maybe something else)) interdict my fully-loaded-with-Palladium Anaconda. I submit, boost, jump back in SC, then IMMEDIATELY drop back into normal space and boost-boost-boost for while, then go back SC until they try to interdict me again, at which point I drop back into normal space and repeat, until I get fed up and switch to Solo. I fly to the station in Solo, then switch back into Open while at the station.

They show up at the station and they call me out for "combat logging", say they have video, they reported me to FD (LOL), etc...

What does the hive-mind think? Was I cheating, or playing using the game mechanics as intended by the Devs?

It is not cheating (circumventing the log-out countdown is), but it is exploiting. And fairly sad and pathetic behavior if you ask me. You only used solo to get out of an immediate dangerous situation, which obviously is not what it is for. FD wont punish you for it, nor should they, but one is left wondering what the point of playing Open is if you flee whenever things get too hot for you. The point of Open is that 'anything' can happen. If you only want PVE, join Mobius. If you want to join the Open community, but only on your terms, you may not really grasp how 'games' and 'rules' work, online or offline.
 
It seems to me that the OP got attacked by 3 bullies (as they kept attacking him when he got away), and then when he DID manage to get away, they started shouting "We're telling on you" because he didn't want to play their game any more. If I were to be attacked by the same Commander (or Commanders) several times I would do the same, except I would stay in Solo for a few days. I prefer to stay in Open play, as I have this habit of heading off to Starter space to offer assistance to new Commanders (mainly with trade dividends).
 
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Majinvash

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The PVE crowd has arrived!!

MOBIUS DEFENCE FORCE ASSEMBLE!!

Its hard.. waa .. waa.. Better play in solo....
I wont be anyones content.
I want to play my way.
PVP players are like rapists.
I will hack my router so I will only see what i want to see.

Fine, do that just don't change out of Open when it gets hard and think thats working as intended.
 
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Not cheating.

just bad style.


The PVE crowd has arrived!!

MOBIUS DEFENCE FORCE ASSEMBLE!!

Its hard.. waa .. waa.. Better play in solo....
I wont be anyones content.
I want to play my way.
PVP players are like rapists.
I will hack my router so I will only see what i want to see.

Fine, do that just don't change out of Open when it gets hard and think thats working as intended.


Whatever reason players in mobius have for being there does not concern you.

Like you we play the game how we want to.

The thing is, that if somebody does choose to play open then they should be rdy for pvp to happen.
 
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Switching between modes isnt cheating, as how the game has been designed. Sometimes need to get rid off people, so you have little choice but to switch to solo (they can be unrelenting, and unfair using larger numbers on you). Unfortunately the more times you switch to solo, the more times youre just pick solo instead - it saves the argo, and stops it from happening in the first place (when is it good to be pirated?). In other times solo can be better, like when you want a nav-beacon or H-RES point to yourself. I know this defeats the whole point of making the game online, but there is no coop mode (no way to turn off PvP). Many MMO's keep PvP separate (even FD are starting this with the introduction of the Close Quarters Arena).

It doesnt help that FD have given the wrong impression, by suggesting these guys can threaten you with action from FD. Its all done to cause bullying, which is just wrong (I had it happen to me, and in the end I had to get FD involved). I would suggest that wouldnt worry about it, and just got about your business as normal.
 
Not a cheat IMO but why play open if when confronted with odds you don't like you just switch to solo ?

Entirely the users prerogative of course :)
 
Its not cheating since its allowed by the game and its designers.
Solo is intended for exactly this reason (to avoid other players since that is all it does).
It cant be cheating if the game and its develoopers have designed and allowed it intentionally.

You could always argue if its good or bad design though, personally I think they implemented solo as a quickfix to replace offline, and cant have thunk it through completely.

Solo and open should be separated, not allowing the use of the same commander on each. (imo)
 
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