Heh!
Bonus points for getting the A on the end. =)
It was by B17-3A which I think is the main star because it's a two star system designated A & B.
God forbid we have to do one of these blind.
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Heh!
Bonus points for getting the A on the end. =)
It was by B17-3A which I think is the main star because it's a two star system designated A & B.
God forbid we have to do one of these blind.
EDIT: Ah, this took me too long to write on my dodgy internet connection. Will leave it here anyway, in case I need to link some of the rationale ever again
So, I pitched the idea of morse a long time back, but it didn't get traction, nor did I have the resources to push through. After seeing suggestion it was "coming back into consideration", I repushed the idea with the help of others and is now pretty accepted. With that said, let me explain a few things, and how they've come about which might clear things up.
- Firstly, since you haven't read the whole thread, here's the alphabet I produced from the UA chittering. That alphabet is derived from a collection of recordings from the community (mostly Wishblend and Ratking's), who helpfully recorded the UA at enough different places to provide the whole alphabet and numbers. The critical thing with the alphabet is that if I was wrong at all with extracting the letters, there is no way I would've been able to come up with an alphabet, as it took over 20 recordings to do, in some cases extracting a single audio cut. But I was able to spot it almost first go every time.
(PS Wishblend, if I have to listen to COL 285 SECTOR in UA chitter ever again, I'm gonna get all hulk up in here....)
- Next, I verified the accuracy of this alphabet by using it to synthesise a signal for EKURU A 1 , a location which had not yet been recorded. After producing this, Wishblend went off and recorded the UA outside EKURU A 1. Although not a perfect replication (due to the variances that can occur in each recording), it's structurally identical, which is as close a proof as you can get.
- Some of those variances are in pitch and tone, but again, they are structurally the same. Some variances are also from the actual morse encoded version itself. If you listen to the "P" sample, it's *almost* nothing like an actual morse P. This is why the various morse-decoding software this has been passed through doesn't detect anything. It'd be like taking Chinese text and expecting sense when you pass it through a Japanese text decoder. Their scripts are similar, but they aren't the same. However..
- It's not *strictly* morse. It's much easier for everyone to just call it morse, rather than what it actually is; a stylised variation of morse. If you're listening for *pure* morse, or even distorted morse (where the signals are the same, but just distorted slightly) you won't hear it. It's probably much more accurate to say this is something *based* off morse, as my initial work assumed it was morse *with variance* in it. Thus, the issues with the P sound.
- Other variations that can occur is, for example, that a "dit" is sometimes a "wip", "wup" or "dat" sound (the 'dat' is really uncommon and only appears in a few letters). This is best heard in the cuts for "5" (dit dit dit dit dit) and "4" (dit dit dit dit dah). In the recordings, respectively, they sound more like "wip wip wip" and "wip wip warp".
- The best way to explain this is as a language effect rule, similar to what we do with the english language. "Phone" contains "P" (pee) and "H" (aich), but these are not heard when you pronounce the word phone. In this case, they make a "fuh" sound. But just because you don't hear a "Pee" or an "aich" doesn't mean it's not present. I think similar rules might apply to the "morse", for example, three or more sequential dits will follow a "high-low-high..." sequence. That said, it's not something I'm willing to put effort in to breaking down, nor am capable of doing it.
I hope that helps. I know there will be people out here who will never be convinced it's morse, and if I could go back in time and somehow pitch it in a way that didn't claim it was morse, but instead based off morse (and thus, can be decoded like morse) I might have, because people do go listening for morse (like in the nav beacons) and can't hear it, nor can software detect it, and so think it isn't.
I hear it, the pitch and rhythm of morse is there - It's morse, and only a human could detect it. I now agree completely.
I'm happy to have a go at verifying translations if needed.
noo! missed it
the mass lock trick didn't work, it jumped before the escort even though they scattered and I stayed right on the t-9's tail
oh well back to hunting
Is it in supercruise?
Atre you in open?
noo! missed it
the mass lock trick didn't work, it jumped before the escort even though they scattered and I stayed right on the t-9's tail
oh well back to hunting
noooo! Didn't you equip a Wake Scanner?! It should be possible to follow them, or am I wrong?
The mass lock trick did not work because they high waked to another system perhaps?
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If your in open wing me i have a frame wake scanner, probably gone by now though =(
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On the way to Timocani as well now.
yeah too late didn't think of that left the instance already
at least we know they still exist now, its my 3rd time hunting been at it for a few days now happy to have seen a glimpse of one
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Oh well, the one that got away. =(
So did you do anything out of the ordinary?
Or just hanging around in deep space waiting for SSSs?
No missions taken out or anything like that?
Just for reference, depending on approach, ideally I think you need.
Wake scanner (if you're planning to follow, I belive the T9 normally jumps first)
Interdictor (probably) to subsequently pull it out of SC
Hatch breakers
Sometimes you can only get two dumps of cargo before the hatch is at 0% and what you want is then "stuck" inside, I think hatch breaker is the only way at this point.
So did you do anything out of the ordinary?
Or just hanging around in deep space waiting for SSSs?
No missions taken out or anything like that?
Just for reference, depending on approach, ideally I think you need.
Wake scanner (if you're planning to follow, I belive the T9 normally jumps first)
Interdictor (probably) to subsequently pull it out of SC
Hatch breakers
Sometimes you can only get two dumps of cargo before the hatch is at 0% and what you want is then "stuck" inside, I think hatch breaker is the only way at this point.
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no nothing special, just hanging around in deep space waiting for SSS to pop up
Now in Timocani (open), DBX, wake scanner, limpets, cargo scanner, FSD interdictor - so if anyone wants to team up.
I'm pretty sure I've posted this before, but oh well, I'll do it again.
The constant "buzzing" sound through out all recordings is (scientific pitch notation) F#4, or the F# above middle C on a standard 88 key piano.
The "whale song" alternates between two different sequences. F#4 and E4. The next is D4, G#4, (F4, very quickly), then back to D4.
For the second 3 note sequence, I'm not exactly sure if I'm actually hearing that F4 between the G#4 and the D4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_pitch_notation
Taking a quick peak at the above link, we see that the constant F#4 is 369.99hz.
The two note sequence is F#4 to E4, so 369.99hz to 329.63hz
The three note sequence is D4, G#4, F4, D4, or 293.66hz, 415.3hz, 349.23hz back to 293.66hz
I had the thought that maybe the 3 note sequence could be 3d coordinates in the galaxy map, though I haven't tested it yet. I'm pretty sure the primary notes I'm hearing are in the 4th octave, which if we were to go by those frequencies, then those coordinates wouldn't be very far away from Sol, being 0,0,0.
I'm thinking that since D4 is repeated, it would be the first number in the coordinate sequence. But, if I am in fact imagining that F4 in the sound, then we'd still have 293, 415, 293.
Someone tell me if I've gone crazy and need to go to sleep.
edit: I just noticed while looking at the references on that Scientific Pitch Notation wiki this lovely little nugget: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/09sep_blackholesounds/
"Sound waves 57 octaves lower than middle-C are rumbling away from a supermassive black hole in
the Perseus cluster."
The constant "buzzing" sound through out all recordings is (scientific pitch notation) F#4, or the F# above middle C on a standard 88 key piano.
The "whale song" alternates between two different sequences. F#4 and E4. The next is D4, G#4, (F4, very quickly), then back to D4.
For the second 3 note sequence, I'm not exactly sure if I'm actually hearing that F4 between the G#4 and the D4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_pitch_notation
Taking a quick peak at the above link, we see that the constant F#4 is 369.99hz.
The two note sequence is F#4 to E4, so 369.99hz to 329.63hz
The three note sequence is D4, G#4, F4, D4, or 293.66hz, 415.3hz, 349.23hz back to 293.66hz
I had the thought that maybe the 3 note sequence could be 3d coordinates in the galaxy map, though I haven't tested it yet. I'm pretty sure the primary notes I'm hearing are in the 4th octave, which if we were to go by those frequencies, then those coordinates wouldn't be very far away from Sol, being 0,0,0.
I'm thinking that since D4 is repeated, it would be the first number in the coordinate sequence. But, if I am in fact imagining that F4 in the sound, then we'd still have 293, 415, 293.
Someone tell me if I've gone crazy and need to go to sleep.
edit: I just noticed while looking at the references on that Scientific Pitch Notation wiki this lovely little nugget: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/09sep_blackholesounds/
"Sound waves 57 octaves lower than middle-C are rumbling away from a supermassive black hole in
the Perseus cluster."
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Awesome, I was asking a while back if anyone with a decent ear knew the notes and specific frequencies of the wail.
Difficult to know what to do with it but having it there is a start. =)
There are also some notes that seem to appear between the purrs now and again, they seem more pitch related than length ie note rather than morse, these ones are harder to make out I think and although I think there's only a limited number of f=variations, there are more variations than the howl's 2.
It might seem a stretch but I honestly would not be suprised if these notes are somehow important, the audio guys are no doubt well trained in music and we have suspicious looking missions called "The Silent Song of the Spheres".
Difficult to know what to do with it but having it there is a start. =)
There are also some notes that seem to appear between the purrs now and again, they seem more pitch related than length ie note rather than morse, these ones are harder to make out I think and although I think there's only a limited number of f=variations, there are more variations than the howl's 2.
It might seem a stretch but I honestly would not be suprised if these notes are somehow important, the audio guys are no doubt well trained in music and we have suspicious looking missions called "The Silent Song of the Spheres".
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