No I don't want the structure of the game changed. We have groups in the game. Why can't I talk to the people in my group in game?
The New Guilds and Player Owned Stations Discussion Thread.
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Day 3. This thread is still alive, despite being short one important poll option. It is partly my fault, I know I could stop posting.
But please, somebody, remove the three other poll options if you are not going to add the important fourth option:
NO PLAYER GUILDS BUT LIMITED PLAYER-OWNED STRUCTURES!!!!
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Yeah this one still has my vote.
but he can't see the keyboard remember, he has an oculus!Try pressing 2
Alt tab is not fun in Oculus. In game tools required to enjoy the game fully, I said this about trading also. It's easy to use pen and paper with a monitor, not with Oculus.
That's a very good point. He could always learn to touchtype, put a blob pointer on his keyboard, configure his HOTAS, use a footpedal, use use voiceattack (which is excellent btw) to open comms. Or keep a 3rd party one running all the time.
One of the biggest problems with this discussion is that the Pro-guild side has no unity. I am forced (in the loose MMO use of the word) to argue against the introduction of a guild mechanic because the notion is so varied. So, judged against the most extreme notion of what the Guilders want, I have to repeat my dislike for guilds in Elite.
If the Guilders could accept a Comm's only solution, I could get behind them. Otherwise, I will continue to oppose.
Some people can touch type. And as I said at tabbing is rather immersion breaking.
And again I ask why is it so horrible to have better communications in the game for people to use? Why is that the end of the world for you?
We have groups..so we basically have guilds already.
we can talk to individual pilots. Why can we not have a group channel for the group?
Why can we not see who is currently online in the group? Why is that so horrible?
We even have voice come in game.
It is not like we are asking for the moon. I really do not understand why group players having these things bothers you so much. Not like it will effect you much. And as you all have pointed out they exist outside the game so them existing in the game would not be the apocalypse ypu guys claim.
Also why would you need to alt-tab in a rift? In Elite it's a secondary display - all you have to do is lift it up and you've got your normal desktop where it always is - unless you are running Eyefinity on three screens and the rift in which case I only have the rift and one windows desktop.
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Not at all - I actually enjoy and appreciate and agree with some of the things you have to say. I just completely disagree with the notion of guilds being needed.
I don't understand why you offer third party solutions instead of just accepting that improvements can be made lol
That's like going to a shop and asking for a bacon sandwich and the server saying 'Sure, just go and get some bread from the supermarket across the road'. You respond 'Why? Surely if I am eating here you will provide the bread?'. And they say 'No sorry, we've been here for 30 some years now and have always operated this way'. 'Well' you say, 'I think it would be better if you had the bread here, it would certainly save time and effort - and you might get more customers'. But the server replies 'Sorry, this is not in the spirit of eating at my shop'.
And then recession and austerity and the shop is replaced with a Poundland... where was I going with this again?
We already technically have guilds in the game. We just want the tools that normally go with that. Which is basically the comms upgrade you speak of with a few additional things like a whose online list.
No I quite agree, although I have come to expect that from gui-- wait a minute..
It's down to his guild - the Drunks of Sol are always reasonable. He'll be telling you you're his best friend next!
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Of course - improvements can be made and I would absolutely welcome genuine improvements.
Why would you want to eat 30 year old bread?
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That is very kind of you to say - but I play in Open
Read my earlier post then logically counter it, and I'll stop assumeing guild's will hurt ED. Well I'll stop openly oposing it here by not posting my view's in this thread.
Agreed, that is what is so confusing to a lot of us. It seems all some of you want is a better communications tool, great, if you read the thread most of us have agreed with that. But then you and others continue to express the requirement by calling for guilds - which is an entirely different proposition.
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As you know, if guilds are introduced to facilitate your new comms tools, then people will want everything else that are in guilds in other games - that is what some of us don't want to see.
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So which is it, better communication tools or guilds and everything that comes with them?
I hear certain types of bread grow a particular fungus that has psychedelic properties. It's in the spirit you see...
That's the Spirit of The Age
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You're getting a head of yourself - that's a discussion for down the road. This is not a slippery slope, this is a gentle incline that we can choose to stop on.
Exactly. Something something mice and cookies.
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