Can someone explain me the difference you see between xbox and PC comunities?

CMDR Alonso

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I've been reading a lot of people talking about FDev having to bring new content to "keep the PC players happy" or they caring more about the Xbox players

What the hell does that mean? Could you explain? The ONLY difference between E: D in pc and Xbox is that in Xbox is still a beta, and (this is the only part that I can understand some people being a bit mad about) that CQC beta is going to be in Xbox and CQC update will come first (talking about weeks, so not even a month).

But it seems like you consider Elite: Dangerous for Xbox One like a different game, with a different content and a different community, well, let me reveal you a secret: the Xbox version is a port of the PC game:eek:

Stop spliting the community in two different groups, I see a lot of people talking about Xbox players as people playing a different (and worse) game, and I've seen people basically asking for different content to come to PC and not to Xbox (and viceversa).

It's annoying, no announcement should be meant to please "PC/MAC players" or "Xbox players", it should be meant to please the people who are playing Elite: Dangerous, and last time I checked, that's what I'm playing in my Xbox One.

So, please, explain me, what is that horrible thing that makes Xbox players worse, and why should both versions receive different content? And don't bring the disscussion about CQC here, that's already been argued hundreds of times and we all agree that it should have been released at the same time in PC and Xbox (except that would actually delay the PC update).



I have to add something: thanks to FDev for trying their best to keep both versions as near as possible (I wish you're still considering the cross-play feature)
 
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tetra

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Think the only thing people are commenting about is the possible optimization that has taken place to better allow the xbox to run the game, however that is entirely subjective and most likely has nothing to do with the cross platform compatibility. Also the PC community was a little miffed to find out that a game kick-started, backed and funded by PC players was going to suddenly appear on console with timed exclusive content that the PC community would then have to wait to play.

Either way makes no difference to me whatsoever, I'm not interested in CQC at all and as far as I'm concerned I positively welcome ED expanding onto consoles to maintain funding and development for all platforms. Xbox is playing the exact same game, there is no difference aside from the input controllers used to play it.
 

Gody

Gody
Well-, main problem is that Pc alfa/beta players paid alot of money to get all content sooner than anybody else and Xbone players paid like $30 and they don't need to wait for CQC as long as alfa/beta players
 

who?

who?
Where you have people, you'll have factions..

We're better than you because we play on PC and you play on console, or vice versa. Because we're part of the Empire and you're part of the Federation or vice versa. Because we play in Open and you play Solo, or vice versa. Because we use fixed weapons and you play using gimballed or vice versa. Because we're positive about the game and you're complaining about its problems, or vice versa. Such is human nature.
 

CMDR Alonso

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tetra said:
Think the only thing people are commenting about is the possible optimization that has taken place to better allow the xbox to run the game, however that is entirely subjective and most likely has nothing to do with the cross platform compatibility. Also the PC community was a little miffed to find out that a game kick-started, backed and funded by PC players was going to suddenly appear on console with timed exclusive content that the PC community would then have to wait to play.

Either way makes no difference to me whatsoever, I'm not interested in CQC at all and as far as I'm concerned I positively welcome ED expanding onto consoles to maintain funding and development for all platforms. Xbox is playing the exact same game, there is no difference aside from the input controllers used to play it.
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The "I backed a PC game and I want it in PC" agument is a nonsense You spend your money on a long-term game and when it comes to Xbox, giving the devs more money to keep up with the development you get angry? It is actually better for the game in PC, because, if I remember well, I've also paid for this game so the devs can keep going
 
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Sapient6

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CMDR Alonso said:
And don't bring the disscussion about CQC here, that's already been argued hundreds of times and we all agree that it should have been released at the same time in PC and Xbox (except that would actually delay the PC update).
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The implication is that CQC was created in order to appeal to the console crowd, the console crowd being more inclined towards games with nonstop shooting and instant gratification. Whether that perception of PC gamers vs console gamers is true is not something I'm willing to argue (I hate the concept of CQC in its entirety, I play console games all the time, I play ED on my PC).
 

lefty1117

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Right now the Xboxers are just thrilled that there is even a game like this for them to play. Still very new to them. Powerplay doesn't seem to be heavily played yet by them so I think in general they are still in that new car smell stage and simply haven't played long enough to become jaded. I saw a couple of complaints about not being able to keep exploration tags when they move to the main galaxy but that's about it. Otherwise they seem quite happy with what they have.
 

Bran Tse Mallory

Bran Tse Mallory
+Rep to the OP for wise words.

Truth is so many PC owners are still in denial about the hardware inside the two new consoles. They do not accept that it is basically a PC but very customised. Surface mounted components and a custom PCB mother board will allow great things now and in the future as developers learn to leverage as much power as possible from the machines.

It is also true that the PC can be far more powerful than these two machines due to the ever increasing speed of the components but in reality most of the AAA titles that will come out will be designed for use on the consoles. So why the need for such a mega PC then?

Simple, we are snobs, we like to have the biggest monitor we can fit on our desk, we get all hissy fitty if we drop below 60 FPS on Angry Birds and our PC must use as much power as a small country just when in idle mode. I personally use mine as a room heater, something which AMD cards are ideal for, sorry nvidiots but your going to get cold before I do! :D
 

Steve50

Steve50
Perhaps they see "most" PC players as space sim fans and "most" Xbox players as FPS pewpew fans?

Thus two different games? I don't know. Just guessing but personally I would have scrapped the gimmicky CQC nonsense and simply released the "normal" Elite Dangerous on the Xbox.
 

CMDR Alonso

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Gody said:
Well-, main problem is that Pc alfa/beta players paid alot of money to get all content sooner than anybody else and Xbone players paid like $30 and they don't need to wait for CQC as long as alfa/beta players
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That I can understand, but still leaving CQC out of it (as I've said, I extremely doubt that any player would actually want it to be released before in Xbox, we don't care about that), if I go and buy the game in steam, I'll pay even less and it would be a full game, not just testing, so aplying the same logic I should be complaying about that.

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Steve50 said:
Perhaps they see "most" PC players as space sim fans and "most" Xbox players as FPS pewpew fans?

Thus two different games? I don't know. Just guessing but personally I would have scrapped the gimmicky CQC nonsense and simply released the "normal" Elite Dangerous on the Xbox.
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Your comment just tells everything, people takes stupid topics and get them as absolute facts
 

CMDR Alonso

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Sapient6 said:
The implication is that CQC was created in order to appeal to the console crowd, the console crowd being more inclined towards games with nonstop shooting and instant gratification. Whether that perception of PC gamers vs console gamers is true is not something I'm willing to argue (I hate the concept of CQC in its entirety, I play console games all the time, I play ED on my PC).
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You are right on that, but let me tell you, I highly doubt that the existence of CQC will mark a difference to console sells, damn, I've been hoping for an Space-Sim kind of game coming to xbox since I have an Xbox, I don't care about the CQC (although I like the idea of fighting inside stations and stuff), and many, many people are in the same condition.
 

Frank

Frank
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

It beats me why there should be a difference. It's kind of worrying that FDev keep on going on about the fact that they aren't going to dumb down the game for consoles, and yet one of the remarks they made about CQCC was that it suited console players better.

I'm hoping that this remark was a mere slip of the tongue. The two different types of players may never be able to meet in the same instance but maybe there can still be some co-operation with operations such as community goals.
 

Stolas

Stolas
Bran Tse Mallory said:
+Rep to the OP for wise words.

Truth is so many PC owners are still in denial about the hardware inside the two new consoles. They do not accept that it is basically a PC but very customised. Surface mounted components and a custom PCB mother board will allow great things now and in the future as developers learn to leverage as much power as possible from the machines.

It is also true that the PC can be far more powerful than these two machines due to the ever increasing speed of the components but in reality most of the AAA titles that will come out will be designed for use on the consoles. So why the need for such a mega PC then?

Simple, we are snobs, we like to have the biggest monitor we can fit on our desk, we get all hissy fitty if we drop below 60 FPS on Angry Birds and our PC must use as much power as a small country just when in idle mode. I personally use mine as a room heater, something which AMD cards are ideal for, sorry nvidiots but your going to get cold before I do! :D
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Thank you for making my point... LOL
Just so you know for future reference if you have to resort to name calling and belittling to make your point you have already lost the argument. I am going to however give you the benefit of the doubt and state that you may have intended sarcasm that may have not quite come through. ;)

I think I may have passed some wisdom today - my work is complete.
 
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tetra

tetra
Stolas said:
Thank you for making my point... LOL
Just so you know for future reference if you have to resort to name calling and belittling to make your point you have already lost the argument.

I think I may have passed some wisdom today - my work is complete.
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lol yeah sadly I was literally counting the minutes until a reply like this turned up in this thread.
 

Stolas

Stolas
@Tetra
I softened it after reading my post it occurred to me that I may have come off a bit harsh. To be brutally honest it should be a shame on me for taking the easy shot.
 
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AnnuverScotinExile

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Frank said:
It beats me why there should be a difference. It's kind of worrying that FDev keep on going on about the fact that they aren't going to dumb down the game for consoles, and yet one of the remarks they made about CQCC was that it suited console players better.

I'm hoping that this remark was a mere slip of the tongue. The two different types of players may never be able to meet in the same instance but maybe there can still be some co-operation with operations such as community goals.
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It wasn't a slip of the tongue. It was a post-hoc justification for the CQC release being on XBox first. Do I believe it? Not in the slightest. Whilst I do think that it is probably that CQC will go down better in the XBox community than the PC community, I don't believe that was the reason. I believe the real reason was the deal with Microsoft. And I have no problem with that, if it helped the folding green things to flow.
 
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CMDR Alonso

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Stolas said:
Thank you for making my point... LOL
Just so you know for future reference if you have to resort to name calling and belittling to make your point you have already lost the argument. I am going to however give you the benefit of the doubt and state that you may have intended sarcasm that may have not quite come through. ;)

I think I may have passed some wisdom today - my work is complete.
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I was trying to use some sarcasm, but hey I'm no native english speaker so I may have written it the wrong way.
 
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