Aisling Duval / Winters peace treaty
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no, nothing happened in game, its just a story.
Many of the galnet articles are written by players now.
It's just le redditors o7ing and reacharounding each other. It has zero impact on the actual game.
The Winters/Aisling article is based on an agreement between some factions on both sides. The article was written to let other people know about this and encourage people who don't frequent the groups on facebook or reddit to know that there is an agreement they can respect if they so desire.
I wrote the article from the point of view of a supporter of the Treaty whilst acknowledging the fact that not all players agree with it, allowing you to still have freedom to act.
Re: Traitor. Let's not forget that the Imperial factions are not buddy buddy. In fact all of them are rivals for that ultimate prize, the Imperial Throne.
I wrote the article from the point of view of a supporter of the Treaty whilst acknowledging the fact that not all players agree with it, allowing you to still have freedom to act.
Re: Traitor. Let's not forget that the Imperial factions are not buddy buddy. In fact all of them are rivals for that ultimate prize, the Imperial Throne.
Mod reopened this thread, thanks for it.
Please, for all users, try to not make the mistake again, give your opinions and some role-playing but please, no disrespect or rude comments.
Let´s enjoy this thread healthy, i think it is an interesting question this peace treaty between 2 opposite powers form different major factions.
Perhaps some dark and hidden interests? future betrayal?
PD: Excuse my basic english.
Please, for all users, try to not make the mistake again, give your opinions and some role-playing but please, no disrespect or rude comments.
Let´s enjoy this thread healthy, i think it is an interesting question this peace treaty between 2 opposite powers form different major factions.
Perhaps some dark and hidden interests? future betrayal?
PD: Excuse my basic english.
Thanks to JeffRyan for clarification. Thanks to Yaffle for the morally upstanding censorship treatment.
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While we're at it, why are the sub factions of the respective larger factions (Empire, Feds) hostile to each other? I'd expect a neutral pamphlet type competition going on, but not outright war.
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It's a shame there isn't a mechanism in game that would go with it. I was pumped reading this, even considering going back to Winters after all, just for the sake of not having everybody hostile outside of the Power's bubble.
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While we're at it, why are the sub factions of the respective larger factions (Empire, Feds) hostile to each other? I'd expect a neutral pamphlet type competition going on, but not outright war.
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There's nothing dark or hidden. Politically both parties believe in a strong MORAL reform of their respective governments. Two parties who care about the well-being of the most unfortunate and least considered members of their approriate societies have much to discuss. It would be more hypocritical to ally with slavery enforcing Torval than anti-slavery Winters.
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Sooner or later we'll have to acknowledge that these Imperial factions MUST be weakened if Princess Aisling Duval is to take the throne. I have no problem with the Federation doing the weakening.
The Emperor is alive and well. Speaking of Aisling taking the throne is usurpation and treason.
Scheming with enemy powers to achieve this makes it high treason.
Good job.
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Definitely an interesting turn of events and it does make sense as Aisling has been portraying herself as a Sweet Little Innocent Princess and Winters being the more Humanitarian of the Fed Powers...so, nice angle.
I'm not aligned with either so I'm not directly affected but I can't see my main man Zac being too happy about it.
He may spit the dummy, so to speak.
I'm not aligned with either so I'm not directly affected but I can't see my main man Zac being too happy about it.
He may spit the dummy, so to speak.
That doesn't follow. From a narrative point of view, the principle opponent of all the Imperial factions are each other, as they're all competing to be in a position to secure the throne for themselves once the Emperor dies. As I understand it, that's the justification for there being so many Imperial factions; the Empire is about to implode into a dynastic conflict as multiple pretenders to the throne try to take the fancy hat for themselves. Yeah, the Emperor is claimed to be alive and well, but it's pretty clear that even if he's making a recovery from his current illness (and I note that there's been nothing on GalNet about him making a public appearance...), it's pretty clear that he's on the way out in the relatively near future.
In that context, it makes perfect sense for them to be making arrangements with outside powers. Pretty much every dynastic conflict in history had every side involved attempting to get outside backing to legitimise their claim. In this case, you could imagine that Aisling (or her backers) are thinking in terms of Winters winning the next election in the Federation (even if that means Hudson has to suffer an 'unfortunate accident'), with an agreement that once that happens, Aisling would be recognised by the Federation as the official inheritor. The Federal Navy helping her to 'restore order' to areas of the Empire 'controlled by rebels and illegitimate pretenders' would probably guarantee her victory, after all.
I suppose it technically is treason, but only if Aisling fails to claim the throne. That's no great loss, because chances are that once the next Emperor or Empress is secure on their throne, their erstwhile competitors are getting purged or exiled anyway. If she wins, on the other hand, well, winners aren't guilty of treason on account of them being the ones that get to define what treason is.
From an in-game PoV, that basically justifies any Imperial faction getting chummy with any non-Imperial faction. Their relationship with each other, on the other hand, should range from hostility to the sort of uneasy cooperation you get when both sides know the other one is plotting to stab them in the back at some point. They certainly shouldn't really be friendly with each other.
Unfortunately, the game mechanics actively disincentivise powers from the same major faction fighting each other, so the 'narrative' isn't really reflected in gamplay all that much.
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Says he, who supports the one who sells imperial ships to outsiders to fill her own coffers.
And about the Emperor, nobody has seen him for how long ? It is entirely possible this is an Arissa plot to hide his death, as her mother didn't actually marry the emperor she has nothing to do with the succession.
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Of course Aisling would never 'scheme'. (*cough*) Just private agreeements to stop killing each other.
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Has he recovered, though? AFAIK, he's not been seen in public yet. For that matter, the statement that he woke up from an extended coma raring to get back to the job inside of a few days reeks of propaganda on the level of North Korea saying that Kim Jong Il was hale and hearty when he was on his deathbed. It's not implausible that the guy woke up, but whether he woke up in any fit state to rule, or whether his health has actually recovered to the point that he's not still seriously ill and in danger of keeling over without warning? That's another matter entirely. To be frank, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was dead and whichever faction controls Achenar (Arissa?) was covering it up as part of a plan to further their own agenda.
Regardless, the fact of the matter is that the Empire is heavily factionalised, to the point that central authority has started to fray. Even if the Emperor has made a full recovery, that... doesn't really change anything. He'd just be another side in the upcoming power struggle, since this sort of political nightmare never ends with everybody going 'Oh, okay then, we'll dismantle our power bases and return to business as usual.'. Hengist actually making a full recovery just means that the factions would be plotting to depose him before stealing the fancy hat and big chair, rather than waiting for him to die.
Again, this is treason, but as the saying goes, treason never prospers because when it does, none dare call it treason.
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So what? Harry never married the Junkie he impregnated with Aisling either... Considering he's disinherited on top of that, I'm still surprised she's even mentioned.
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