Ships God Ship?

Cmdr. Numa

Cmdr. Numa
I'm very much looking forward to fitting mine with a prismatic shield generator. Of all ships, the Python has the greatest abundance of power with that 7A plant. Even the Conda with the mighty 8A plant hasn't that much leftover juice when fully A fitted.
 

Starlanced

Starlanced
Na'Qan said:
With only 30 shots in the Imperial Hammer versus all his shield banks.... I don't see how I can break thought his defense any other way. I would've ran out of ammo or ran out of hull if I fought in his terms. I made sure he fought in mines. Ancient Roman naval tactics included ramming of enemy ships to sink or board it. It's easy to dodge a ram, players that Ive fought the 2nd time or probably seen the my videos and learned of my tactic easily avoid me. But I like the challenge and enjoy fighting other players who counters my actions and keep this combat more fun.
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I guess my point is your not supposed to be able to break his defences, they are ships of a different class. Also I guess for me it's more the physics involved two ships hitting head on a just bouncing apart is pretty much just absurd but this has nothing to do with the topic on hand.
 

Na'Qan

Na'Qan
Internals 100% hull reinforcements. This is pure PvP build and hull tanking build. No room for other stuff unless you want to sacrifice armor.

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Starlanced said:
Am I the only one that thinks this ramming technique is getting a bit out of hand.
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Probably...
 
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Guidebot

Guidebot
But... if you go all those hull reinforcement packages... don't they still just snipe your powerplant?

I'm missing something, aren't I...
 

Na'Qan

Na'Qan
Its still difficult to snipe the plant because Im constantly going in and out of silent running, which breaks the contact, therefore everytimje they re-aquire target on me, theyll also need to re-select my powerplant, its another distraction from actual combat that I take advantage of.
 

SongMinKi

SongMinKi
would you like to pit your god python against my god anaconda?http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=706,5...69Y8SCgD88I,7Vs7jw7jw7iM7iM0Nc16y15O5Es5Es0nE

[Anaconda]
H: 3E/G Pulse Laser
L: 3E/G Pulse Laser
L: 3E/G Pulse Laser
L: 3E/G Pulse Laser
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
S: 1G/G Multi-cannon
S: 1G/G Multi-cannon
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster


BH: 1I Lightweight Alloy
RB: 8A Power Plant
TM: 7A Thrusters
FH: 6A Frame Shift Drive
EC: 5D Life Support
PC: 8A Power Distributor
SS: 8D Sensors
FS: 5C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 32)


7: 7A Shield Generator
6: 6A Shield Cell Bank
6: 6A Shield Cell Bank
6: 5A Shield Cell Bank
5: 5A Shield Cell Bank
5: 5A Auto Field-Maintenance Unit
5: 5D Hull Reinforcement Package
4: 4D Hull Reinforcement Package
4: 4C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 16)
4: 4C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 16)
2: 1E Standard Docking Computer
 
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deathmagnet

deathmagnet
SongMinKi said:
would you like to pit your god python against my god anaconda? http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=706,5...69Y8SCgD88I,mpT7jw7jw7iM7Sk0Nc16y15O5Es5Es0nE

[Anaconda]
H: 3E/G Pulse Laser
L: 3E/G Pulse Laser
L: 3E/G Pulse Laser
L: 3E/G Pulse Laser
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
S: 1G/G Multi-cannon
S: 1G/G Multi-cannon
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster
U: 0A Shield Booster


BH: 1I Lightweight Alloy
RB: 8A Power Plant
TM: 7A Thrusters
FH: 6A Frame Shift Drive
EC: 5D Life Support
PC: 8A Power Distributor
SS: 8D Sensors
FS: 5C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 32)


6: 6A Shield Cell Bank
6: 6A Shield Cell Bank
6: 5A Shield Cell Bank
5: 5A Shield Generator
5: 5A Auto Field-Maintenance Unit
5: 5D Hull Reinforcement Package
4: 4D Hull Reinforcement Package
4: 4C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 16)
4: 4C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 16)
2: 1E Standard Docking Computer
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I wouldn't call the python a god ship but its pretty good and i would love to test my metal against an anaconda
 

deathmagnet

deathmagnet
[video=youtube_share;UuPj10Raifs]https://youtu.be/UuPj10Raifs[/video]


Thanks CMDR Song Min Ki for a great fight. Second video to come later this afternoon.
 
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Dillontheman

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If you consider valid as anything doing damage then yeah. If you consider valid as something that makes the game feel like a space combat sim and not a desperate struggle to get videogame kills, then no
 

deathmagnet

deathmagnet
Dillontheman said:
If you consider valid as anything doing damage then yeah. If you consider valid as something that makes the game feel like a space combat sim and not a desperate struggle to get videogame kills, then no
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If I have a tank can I not run over a humvee if i feel like it?
 
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Dillontheman

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Na'Qan said:
If Python is a God Ship, what is my Diamondback Explorer then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8GVN9MSXs&feature=youtu.be&t=2m30s
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Mainly referring to this, where a DBS (Humvee) is able to destroy a Python (Tank) by repeatedly ramming head on into it. Bogus strategy. Were it the other way around, I could understand (even though its still a brutish and unrespectable strategy), as the Python's shields and hull integrity outclass the DBS'.... however the idea that a DBS can gain an advantage by repeatedly ramming into a Python (supposedly far outclassing the DBS in terms of combat),is pretty ridiculous. This is no doubt an oversight by Frontier (Im sure no dev thought "Well the damage mechanics for collisions will be a perfect strategy to take down ships that far outclass your own!")

The only way a Python should be defeatable by such an inferior ship is through far superior outfitting, flight skills, or strategic use of wingmates. (This is coming from someone who flies a Cobra/Viper/DBS/Eagle himself, I prefer to defeat opponents via outmaneuvering/outsmarting over pure weapon strength)

Starlanced said:
I guess my point is your not supposed to be able to break his defences, they are ships of a different class. Also I guess for me it's more the physics involved two ships hitting head on a just bouncing apart is pretty much just absurd but this has nothing to do with the topic on hand.
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Pretty much this^

when used like this, ts an exploitative meta strategy, effectively intended to break the intended balance of the game.
 
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deathmagnet

deathmagnet
Dillontheman said:
Mainly referring to this, where a DBS (Humvee) is able to destroy a Python (Tank) by repeatedly ramming head on into it. Bogus strategy. Were it the other way around, I could understand (even though its still a brutish and unrespectable strategy), as the Python's shields and hull integrity outclass the DBS'.... however the idea that a DBS can gain an advantage by repeatedly ramming into a Python (supposedly far outclassing the DBS in terms of combat),is pretty ridiculous. This is no doubt an oversight by Frontier (Im sure no dev thought "Well the damage mechanics for collisions will be a perfect strategy to take down ships that far outclass your own!")

The only way a Python should be defeatable by such an inferior ship is through far superior outfitting, flight skills, or strategic use of wingmates. (This is coming from someone who flies a Cobra/Viper/DBS/Eagle himself, I prefer to defeat opponents via outmaneuvering/outsmarting over pure weapon strength)
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Well here is the thing in regards to that video.. We don't know how the Python was outfitted. Very poorly I assume. Also we don't know the skill of that CMDR. He probably didn't have full pips to shields and I doubt he was running an 6A Shield... That is a poor video to compare anything to. Also the DB was running a stealth ship which means all internals where hull reinforcements which make it a heavy ship that is effective at ramming even without shields. Works great on the ASP as well because it has so many internals. Fill those internals with hull reinforcement and it weighs a ridiculous amount. The DBE was probably running something similar to this:

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=70i,9qS9qS9qS01Q01Q0Wg0Wg,326Q6Q7_4s6Q4s8I,7Ro15O13q13q12G

But even so...I assure you that DBE wouldn't have knocked my shields down by ramming me.

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Dillontheman said:
Pretty much this^

when used like this, ts an exploitative meta strategy, effectively intended to break the intended balance of the game.
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Ramming has been around since the beginning and never to my knowledge have the devs said it is exploitive or breaking the balance of the game.
 
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