Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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I hadn't seen the mission about the SAP8 containers before, I wonder if this is one of the clues - not necessarily the mission itself but the title "The Song of the Spheres"

Doing a quick google search comes up with :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musica_universalis

"Musica universalis (lit. universal music, or music of the spheres) or Harmony of the Spheres is an ancient philosophical concept that regards proportions in the movements of celestial bodies—the Sun, Moon, and planets—as a form of musica (the Medieval Latin term for music). This "music" is not usually thought to be literally audible, but a harmonic and/or mathematical and/or religiousconcept. The idea continued to appeal to thinkers about music until the end of the Renaissance, influencing scholars of many kinds, including humanists."

I'm not sure if it helps but I thought I'd put it in here for reference.

Not to mention the Voyager (and whale) connection: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2011IAUS..260..358P
 
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I think you guys are over thinking this UA stuff a bit to much I say.

I do not think these UA are meant to wander around the galaxy. They do not seem to hang around by themselves. They seem to record what is in the area then they go away. Now where they go or what happens when they do no one knows. If you do look at the videos of them going away it does show some strange happenings at the end.

If i had the last of these puppies i would get a wing of people and record video of multiple shoots and close ups of them and the strange effect when they go away. And keep listening and shooting video after for awhile just to see if anything else pops back.

Be realistic about this. Do you really think if this is related to the thargoids coming into the galaxy. Do you really think FD would scrap that because the last of the UA's got lost. It would be more realistic they would let more UA out.

But thats my thoughts.

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PS please dont say go and find one and test it yourself. It does not look like anyone will find anymore of them.

I agree about the over thinking; but I don't agree that letting it 'die' is of any use. If it were, then we'd already know - because it's been done. Yes there was a cargo dupe bug too, but whatever trigger should've fired when it died still would've done.

But on your last point - a convoy was spotted yesterday or the day before I think, nilreb was involved, but unfortunately recovery was not successful. There was another, I think about 4-5 days b4. There will be a 3rd in the wild eventually.


There might already be - a lot of people are playing the game and might well have collected one and sold it.

A couple of my RL friends play regularly, for example, but never read the forums, and don't really pay attention to GalNet unless it's about a CG.
 
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Short info on this plague issue.
I'm now in Newton Dock, BD-02 4304 where the outbreak has started according to Galnet.
Checking the local news here I only see messages (many of them) stating an outbreak at Fabian Dock in the same system.
Other than that nothing really suspicious... will check out Fabian Dock next.
 
On the whale front, there's a whole load of 'nearly the same...' and 'isn't it a bit like...' supposition and cryptic stuff (but I admit, it's all very inspired), with each step of which makes that theory more and more tenuous, and more and more something you 'want' to be true, rather than something that's reasonable.

Hmm, like that has not happened on this thread before (and is that not what the thread is for?).

I'm not really taking it seriously honestly - it just makes for a lot of fun based around story instead of overanalysis of bits and bytes. I highly doubt Frontier have done something like this, as basically they have shown themselves largely incapable of hand-crafted missions or story lines like were in the old games, and Galnet is daily becoming a statistical reporting service from what I can see. And it gives me something to do while mindlessly exploring in the Rift, hoping against hope that something actually interesting and exciting might appear either in this thread or the next system before I stop playing altogether.

But as there seem to have been intelligent whale-ships and dolphins and other species in the earlier games, which were "Elite, not The Voyage Home" that certainly would seem to not rule out whaleships or intelligent dolphins or something similar now.

Edit: And Derthek, FWIW, if you read back you will see that at first I was looking at the Han Zen's New California angle from the Thargoid (or Oresrian) perspective. Han Zen convinced me with the Moby and other points that it was worth considering Leviathan or something similar. If it turns out to be Oresrian, does that count as Thargoid for purposes of our bet? What about Klaxians? ;-)

Edit 2: I still think there is an outside chance it might be Junior, but the bookies have stopped taking bets on that.
 
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Here are a few reasons I maintain belief that the UA is thargoid:


1. In last games, after defeating a Thargoid monthership you could scoop the smaller Thargoid vessels. These craft were called "Alien Artefact" in game.

2. Artefact implies that they are from a past Era. The war happened some 300 years prior to E: D.

3. When asked about thargoids being in game, the devs replied that they would be "very much a background encounter". I would qualify the UA as a background encounter based on the rarity of the drop chance.

4. The thargoids were left with a disease created by man, which would explain the decay rate & perhaps the cerberus illness in the gal net news.

5. After the discovery of the UA found in Fed ships, Halsey, the Fed president, was abducted. Thargoid style.
 
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Short info on this plague issue.
I'm now in Newton Dock, BD-02 4304 where the outbreak has started according to Galnet.
Checking the local news here I only see messages (many of them) stating an outbreak at Fabian Dock in the same system.
Other than that nothing really suspicious... will check out Fabian Dock next.

Both systems had a CG at 20 Ophiuchi when we visited earlier this week. I don't know if it was the same CG spread over 2 stations, or 2 separate CGs.

I'll be uploading a couple of video clips from last night and tonight a little later. More to fill out the record than provide anything new.
One in an icy ring around Vulcan, the other at Wredguia WT-I d9-51 next door to Polaris.
 
Hmm, like that has not happened on this thread before (and is that not what the thread is for?).

I'm not really taking it seriously honestly - it just makes for a lot of fun based around story instead of overanalysis of bits and bytes. I highly doubt Frontier have done something like this, as basically they have shown themselves largely incapable of hand-crafted missions or story lines like were in the old games, and Galnet is daily becoming a statistical reporting service from what I can see. And it gives me something to do while mindlessly exploring in the Rift, hoping against hope that something actually interesting and exciting might appear either in this thread or the next system before I stop playing altogether.

But as there seem to have been intelligent whale-ships and dolphins and other species in the earlier games, which were "Elite, not The Voyage Home" that certainly would seem to not rule out whaleships or intelligent dolphins or something similar now.

Aye - I take no issue with anything you say there - absolutely nothing I can say against someone wanting to stay in the spirit of discovery and mystery whilst having fun :D

I really do, I must say, like the Voyager connection. A very dark part of my mind is deeply suspicious of that... They've still not been found. Almost as if they've been moved deliberately because they'd already been found.

If they were part of the mystery, then I'd probably have done the same, especially if I had accidentally-on-purpose put them in slightly the wrong place to start with ;)

But I also really do hope a UA carrier summons up the courage (and poss a wing to help) to get out to the California Sector, to the system in the trailer. Could be a dangerous trip :eek:
 
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I really do, I must say, like the Voyager connection. A very dark part of my mind is deeply suspicious of that... They've still not been found. Almost as if they've been moved deliberately because they'd already been found.

I wonder if they would need to disappear if they were going to add additional content to them - say, the actual audio content of the golden discs (and whales) instead of Braben's welcome message.

If one of the UAs starts playing Chuck Berry we know for sure it is connected to Voyager.
 
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The Leviathan seem to live on an other planet as well.
Topaz in the Ayethi System.
Does that exist in game?

Yes to both. Indigenous life on an outdoor world with human-breathable atmosphere. Suitable for water-based life. Raven's Landing (same system) is similar, but a terraformed earth-like with indigenous life.
 
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BTW, Quana system does not exist. Still looking through the various Mitterand stations and planets for Mitterand's Claim. Liabeze has a Mitterand's World, FWIW. More to follow.

Edit: Epsilon Indi and Liabeze are the only two that show up with something named after Mitterand in the Galaxy Map Search anyways.
 
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Yes to both. Indigenous life on an outdoor world with human-breathable atmosphere. Suitable for water-based life. Raven's Landing (same system) is similar, but a terraformed earth-like with indigenous life.

Topaz should probably be checked as well. The Leviathan could very well have been imported from Topaz.
All advanced animals on New California were imported.
 

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I agree about the over thinking; but I don't agree that letting it 'die' is of any use. If it were, then we'd already know - because it's been done. Yes there was a cargo dupe bug too, but whatever trigger should've fired when it died still would've done.

But on your last point - a convoy was spotted yesterday or the day before I think, nilreb was involved, but unfortunately recovery was not successful. There was another, I think about 4-5 days b4. There will be a 3rd in the wild eventually.


There might already be - a lot of people are playing the game and might well have collected one and sold it.

A couple of my RL friends play regularly, for example, but never read the forums, and don't really pay attention to GalNet unless it's about a CG.


There has not been a detailed analysis of them going away. If you say there will be another found soon then why not do a detailed discovery and video of it pushing up the daisy's. I would get many people and record in detail its final seconds. At a high frame rate so you can slow it down after and as many angles as you can get. Plus wait around after for awhile and see if anything happens past the event.

Look at it from a scientific point of view.

Be rational about this.

The only things you know for sure about the UA's are 3 things

- they record or broadcast the objects in a system with our morse code
- they do not last long and do not like being held in our ships
- when they go away something strange happens, but its not clear for lack of video quality.

If a lab had one of these things in real-life and only knew this and had a couple of them. They would set up video cameras and sound recorders and whatever they have to do the experiment of letting it go away. They would record everything about that strange happening in as close detail they could get.
 
Be realistic about this. Do you really think if this is related to the thargoids coming into the galaxy. Do you really think FD would scrap that because the last of the UA's got lost. It would be more realistic they would let more UA out.

But thats my thoughts.

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PS please dont say go and find one and test it yourself. It does not look like anyone will find anymore of them.

They keep turning up, two were found in the last week but both lost.
 
The ASV[1] Oasis stands ready to resume testing duties once Zenith has completed his tests.

asv_oasis.jpg

For the concerned, I won't be selling the UA straight away. Apologies if I gave that impression. It's still my favorite theory (since it's simple, listening to them - Ishmael & friends, that only some people would get), but I intend to test whatever theories we have that I can help out with. If we hit a lull of a week w/o new things to try or a third UA is found (& we've gotten a triple recording or whatever), then it's time to consider selling it.

[1] - Arcanonn Science Vessel

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I'd like to add some of you CMDRs to my friends list, apart from CMDR Britain aka bitstorm that I already have.
So can you provide your CMDRs name, where not clearly stated in your signature?

@mrtree - I'd like to help you for the Orca testing, for example guarding the UA outside the station, or keeping it for the short time you need to switch your ship.

Usually I do a lot of PvP in game, as I love it, so If someone of you needs an armed escort, I'm here to serve ;)

@LordZoltan: I've almost never traded in 7 months of playing, all my income comes from Bounty Hunting and RES/CZ. That's why I'm almost Elite by now...


I'd welcome a second camera on it.

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Does anybody remember if they said that the next step is something obvious, or if it was that we need to do something obvious? The difference could be important.

I thought about it a bit, and from an in-universe perspective, the most obvious thing I would do if I stole an alien-looking artefact from a Federal military convoy would be to sell it to the Imperial Navy. The thing is, you can only sell it on black markets, which is a different concept. If I still had an UA, I'd be on the lookout for rare missions, to see if anything popped up that was like "We've noticed that you're carrying something interesting, Commander...". Those could be NPC encounters too. Perhaps doing some of the new missions added in 1.3 might be prerequisites as well, especially the ones involving SAP-8 containers.
I wouldn't really expect neither to be the solutions, but the missions might contain more hints towards solving the mystery. If I still had an UA, this is what I'd investigate now.

Coincidentally, if anyone were selling, I'd be willing to pay handsomely for one. If anyone's interested, send me a PM please.


I've been watching for something like this. Unfortunately, all I get are an increased number of interdictions & ("There's the ship with the big haul. I was hoping you'd come this way.", etc.), no non-hostile SC contacts & no extra missions/contacts in the stations I've stopped at.

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Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale;
to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee;
for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee...

Maybe we need to torpedo it ?


LMAO if you think torpedoes would be useful for anything in E : D. Though, OTOH, it might do just enough damage to take 10% off the UA...

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'Cat-whale artefact-pet' - love it - thread-title change, Arcanonn?


I named my UA "Benny". I let him ride up in the cockpit whenever I can. He loves the view, but dislikes when we're fuel-scooping. "Too hot," he said.
 
I reckon I've put getting on for 60-70 hours into UA searching so far. =(

This is not fun Frontier, it is not good gameplay.

Everquest wasn't this bad, and that game *was* grind/camp - 16 years ago. Thankfully most MMOs have moved on. =(
 
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