A BIG Rant
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oh such happy memories. I loved my speccy.... apart from when someone nudged my kempston interface and crashed it which happened a lot!..
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What about doing my own thing? Doing courier runs and warzones to get mcguffins (rather than credits) isn't my thing, that's for sure. There will also be people who want to roleplay a character with no sympathy for any of the galactic powers.
I never lack for something to do in ED, and I don't have any difficulty finding other players when I want to find other players. So, I agree with the general points the OP is making in these regards.
This argument is fundamentally flawed.
Space is really big, but people don't just dash for untouched corners of the galaxy to live out their lives as hermits. Civilization is something most people are unwilling, or unable, to do without, and civilization depends on concentrations of people. It makes perfect sense that this concentration surrounds the world that spawned humans.
I encounter real players all the time out side of the starter and these players weren't placed there for my enjoyment. We simply depend on the same civilization, so happen to be within inhabited space fairly frequently.
Nothing implausible about this.
This is absurd and contradictory. How do you make pledging mandatory, then make it an option restricted to Open?
I don't feel any allegiance should be mandatory, nor would a mandatory allegiance for people to participate in power play any more than they are forced to participate now.
The PP factions do not control all inhabited space. Even if they did, they would not have absolute control over who was able to attain a spacecraft and Pilot's Federation membership.
Participation, beyond the inevitable, incidental, indirect kind that unpledged CMDRs see now, needs to remain optional.
This argument is fundamentally flawed.
Space is really big, but people don't just dash for untouched corners of the galaxy to live out their lives as hermits. Civilization is something most people are unwilling, or unable, to do without, and civilization depends on concentrations of people. It makes perfect sense that this concentration surrounds the world that spawned humans.
I encounter real players all the time out side of the starter and these players weren't placed there for my enjoyment. We simply depend on the same civilization, so happen to be within inhabited space fairly frequently.
Nothing implausible about this.
This is absurd and contradictory. How do you make pledging mandatory, then make it an option restricted to Open?
I don't feel any allegiance should be mandatory, nor would a mandatory allegiance for people to participate in power play any more than they are forced to participate now.
The PP factions do not control all inhabited space. Even if they did, they would not have absolute control over who was able to attain a spacecraft and Pilot's Federation membership.
Participation, beyond the inevitable, incidental, indirect kind that unpledged CMDRs see now, needs to remain optional.
You forgot to mention the complaints about 'grinding'. This is a concept that is alien to me, as I relax and enjoy my slow movement through the game in my Cobra, quietly scoffing at all those players from 'a certain age demographic' who are obsessively boring themselves to tears with the work of "Must have uber Conda rignt now so I can prove myself in PvP to mitigate my shortcomings in RL!"
You forgot to mention the complaints about 'grinding'. This is a concept that is alien to me, as I relax and enjoy my slow movement through the game in my Cobra, quietly scoffing at all those players from 'a certain age demographic' who are obsessively boring themselves to tears with the work of "Must have uber Conda rignt now so I can prove myself in PvP to mitigate my shortcomings in RL!"
Is that the Condor from the Mysteries Cities of Gold?
To OP, while I agree that at times there can be two much senseless ranting on these threads, they usually do point out some glaring issues, though sometimes it is completely "me me me" focused and those are meaningless, many times the rants also have good suggestions that would improve the game, which is fairly empty right now, its got an amazing foundation, but nothing else, and I look forward to that amazing house that will one day sit on top, but in the meantime I don't think it is bad to have people give their complaints and suggestions, I agree that they shouldn't always be so selfish, but they do serve a purpose.
You forgot to mention the complaints about 'grinding'. This is a concept that is alien to me, as I relax and enjoy my slow movement through the game in my Cobra, quietly scoffing at all those players from 'a certain age demographic' who are obsessively boring themselves to tears with the work of "Must have uber Conda rignt now so I can prove myself in PvP to mitigate my shortcomings in RL!"
You forgot that there are two separate points in your statement. No-lifeing happens in every game because demographics, but it is not the same as complaints about the game's lackings. Nice conflation though.
Cradle2Grave
Banned
You really do talk a lot of rubbish.
)So the OP basically says that we should be fine with paying for the surprise..............right.
I have a flashback now.... yeah my grandma used to warn me about this.... she said : "Honey, don't marry the first......." ohh, not that one.
this one: "Be smart, never buy rabbit in the bag."
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You know she was somewhat right...
You forgot to mention the complaints about 'grinding'. This is a concept that is alien to me, as I relax and enjoy my slow movement through the game in my Cobra, quietly scoffing at all those players from 'a certain age demographic' who are obsessively boring themselves to tears with the work of "Must have uber Conda rignt now so I can prove myself in PvP to mitigate my shortcomings in RL!"
What certain age demographic would that be?
Please provide this data. I'll add it to my thesis, "A Study of Overly Judgmental Role-players (or Immerse This, Pal)".
The userbase would get excited and little else. No Man's Sky is in the bag, so they are not going to 'borrow' ideas, and Star Citizen is Vaporware and years away from any kind of release.
Large community based passtimes, like this one (Elite) are known to publish roadmaps, CCP are really good at this, example DUST514's Roadmap and the EvE Online Dev Blogs. CCP do it, because they have a niche market (like Elite), a dedicated mature community (like Elite) and they know that keeping the comms channels open engages and enthuses their community.
CQC addresses this need - so the Dev team are clearly listening - and after a lot of thought, I think CQC will be a cracking idea - because it means those who want to 'pew-pew' with other players can do so easier.
The game is Sci-Fi, not 21st century Science fact, if it were, we would not leave the solar system for 10 actual years. It is a game, and it is a fictional universe based in science fact. Therefore there is no reason at all why player interactions could not be more frequent. I hate to keep using EvE Online as a reference, but the simple fact is, CCP had this nailed very early in their games dev cycle. Player interactions can be more frequent in more populated areas, by ensuring that there is more reward for being in that space. At the moment Elite has a long way to go before it can match EvE for interactions.
Your ageism aside, there is some merit in what you say here, that said the galaxy is largely an empty vessel waiting to be filled - only a very small fraction of the galaxy has stations in them. I remember well David Braben's YouTube video ( Development Plan) back when we were backers enthusing all the possibilities that would come "sometime" after release. He hinted at some amazing gameplay opportunities - some of which are being realised in no man's sky already, and that's been in development for far less time, with far less resources than Elite Dangerous.
All I'm saying is, before you rant about whingers and young players trying to get more for nowt. Try and remember that there are some Beta Backers (of which I am proud to be one); who also think that Frontier need to engage and enthuse the community better than they are doing today. Not doing so, will (I think) make people look at alternatives that already do promise those gameplay opportunities that we all want to see.
I am sure Frontier and David will bring about the best possible space-sim over the long haul, NMS and Star Citizen will play for a different audience. They still have my confidence and I think we are in for some really amazing things over the next decade. My continued faith in the project will not waiver. But I do want to see better and more engaged communications coming out of the development team. And for the NDA and Soon(tm) to be consigned to the rubbish heap where they belong.
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I'm pretty much over with you on this. +1 Rep!
Maybe the PowerPlay option should not be enforced on everyone, though.
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I was quoting the OP. Though I'm inclined to think that the age demographic in question is actually closer to the grave than the cradle
Might wanna leave that out of your thesis
You forgot to mention the complaints about 'grinding'. This is a concept that is alien to me, as I relax and enjoy my slow movement through the game in my Cobra, quietly scoffing at all those players from 'a certain age demographic' who are obsessively boring themselves to tears with the work of "Must have uber Conda rignt now so I can prove myself in PvP to mitigate my shortcomings in RL!"
Thinly veiled 'those damn kids' post, well done gramps. I quietly scoff at players who make derogatory posts about a 'certain age demographic' without understanding enough about the game or the arguments being presented on its flaws to make a cogent point.
The Golden Condor, yes. We'll meet again at that little tavern in Barcelona!
Aaaa, aaa aaa aaa aaaah. Still searching.
That's a fair cop, well called. And as a Premium Beta backer I will acknowledge the game's lackings. Not going to get into them here though.
Cradle2Grave
Banned
All the whingers are young COD players who need constant rewards.
Why can't they like boring games like I used to have to play?
Tarnation!
Why can't they like boring games like I used to have to play?
Tarnation!
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