Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

Do you want a Open PvE

  • Yes, I want a Open PvE

    Votes: 54 51.4%
  • No, I don't want a Open PvE

    Votes: 49 46.7%
  • I want only Open PvE and PvP only in groups

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
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Just split the solo/open universe. Why do you care what happens in open? You play happily, on your own, with NPC interaction and open players interact how they want in their universe. Surely that works?
 
Very occasionally, ritual self-disembowelment seems attractive! Anyway, I'm off out exploring - in Oolite!
 
Not exactly. I'm asking for extra reward bacause my playstyle carries inherently a bit more risk than your playstyle. The risk may or may not happen, true, but it is definitley there.

I free-solo climb. It's incredibly risky compared to the usual rockhounds that use pitons, harness, rope relays... yet I climb. No one pays me to do it. I accept the risk because my reward is getting to the top using nothing but my body's strength and the pride I feel in that.

I don't demand other-style climbers give up their tools. I don't even look down on them. I do not think I should be rewarded "extra" because of my chosen climbing style.
 
I free-solo climb. It's incredibly risky compared to the usual rockhounds that use pitons, harness, rope relays... yet I climb. No one pays me to do it. I accept the risk because my reward is getting to the top using nothing but my body's strength and the pride I feel in that.

I don't demand other-style climbers give up their tools. I don't even look down on them. I do not think I should be rewarded "extra" because of my chosen climbing style.


You have skills I never will have ^,^ and very good summation of the "request" by some wanting greater reward in Open.

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Just split the solo/open universe. Why do you care what happens in open? You play happily, on your own, with NPC interaction and open players interact how they want in their universe. Surely that works?


What part of the concept that "everyone effects the background universe" escapes your understanding?
 
YES!

I just died, due to a) flying drunk. b) system security ramming me while I had no shields, in a fight, that I was drunk in and didn't see system security had joined in.

My death is some one elses fault. I know it is, as nothing is ever my fault - therefore, as nothing is ever my fault, the risk of my flying while drunk is on FD and they must pay me more to cover my loss, as I flew while drunk and they let me - it is there fault, and it is the fault of open players for not joining Mobius and stopping me flying while drunk.

Someone owes me credits.

My rebuy was 20k on my Viper.

Open players owe me a Viper.

End of.

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Pfft In a Viper are you serious :p, 20k rebuy is easy mode!, I used to fly my ASP in a RES, in the dark up hill both ways, with > 1 mill CR rebuy, and I know as I re-bought it a fair few times.

I chickened out (there's one for Cody "chicken") and went for a Vulture ~ 500k CR rebuy, I also avoid dark reses now, but 20k is just, just, just IDK playing it your way :D.

Ps Damn it Cody, I went and got a Cobra for old times sake after our chat, now Jockey makes me want a Viper again too, now if only I could find some Beta era cannons to put on her :) I would be heading for Freeport.
 
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I free-solo climb. It's incredibly risky compared to the usual rockhounds that use pitons, harness, rope relays... yet I climb. No one pays me to do it. I accept the risk because my reward is getting to the top using nothing but my body's strength and the pride I feel in that.

I don't demand other-style climbers give up their tools. I don't even look down on them. I do not think I should be rewarded "extra" because of my chosen climbing style.


Please don't force me to free solo climb too....

I will be the red mushy stain 2000m below you. ;)


(I used to do that too - but that was about 6 stone and 20 years ago :p )
 
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Just split the solo/open universe. Why do you care what happens in open? You play happily, on your own, with NPC interaction and open players interact how they want in their universe. Surely that works?

It is a misconception that anyone that defends the current game mechanics does not play in Open :)
 
Oh and so you know.. I trade too.. with full sheilds and thrusters. The only thing I don't have is weapons because there is no way I could fight someone off.

I am amusing myself with (new) turreted pulse and beams on my Anaconda trader :D I only sacrificed about a half-LY jump range. Well worth it.

And before you ask me about the efficiency, think about the power of 4 lg pulse & 4 beams as well as 933 shields :D
 
I am amusing myself with (new) turreted pulse and beams on my Anaconda trader :D I only sacrificed about a half-LY jump range. Well worth it.

And before you ask me about the efficiency, think about the power of 4 lg pulse & 4 beams as well as 933 shields :D


Hehe I don't think a T-6 can handle that much power

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Pfft In a Viper are you serious :p, 20k rebuy is easy mode!, I used to fly my ASP in a RES, in the dark up hill both ways, with > 1 mill CR rebuy, and I know as I re-bought it a fair few times.

I chickened out (there's one for Cody "chicken") and went for a Vulture ~ 500k CR rebuy, I also avoid dark reses now, but 20k is just, just, just IDK playing it your way :D.

Ps Damn it Cody, I went and got a Cobra for old times sake after our chat, now Jockey makes me want a Viper again too, now if only I could find some Beta era cannons to put on her :) I would be heading for Freeport.


yeah my DBS is 289k per rebuy at the moment >.< Not counting the scan data and bounty I had on me when it happened. So yeah.. was an expensive pop.
 
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A trader just has to work a route not in leetsi to be just as safe as the player in open. The balance between the modes is even closer now.

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This is one of the issues I bring up a lot, because there hasn't been a "moar open" response to it yet.

Leesti is on one of the main rares trading loops; the loops I believe were put there for new players to be able to "gear up" and get some experience flying, route plotting and trade calculations.

So I see the blockade-mentality going for easy pickings. I also see it as creeping ownership issues. Thankfully, ED has said there'd be no players "owning" a system ala EvE. Thankfully, we have the modes to use to combat this type of behavior.
 
This is one of the issues I bring up a lot, because there hasn't been a "moar open" response to it yet.

Leesti is on one of the main rares trading loops; the loops I believe were put there for new players to be able to "gear up" and get some experience flying, route plotting and trade calculations.

So I see the blockade-mentality going for easy pickings. I also see it as creeping ownership issues. Thankfully, ED has said there'd be no players "owning" a system ala EvE. Thankfully, we have the modes to use to combat this type of behavior.


Yeah.. I will fight tooth and nail for ED to NOT become EVE in a cockpit.
 
This is a good point brought up in other posts. I assumed NPCs would have random cargo comparable to players. However, as it stands now reminds me of Diablo, where top Hell mode bosses were just as likely to throw (useless) Cracked Swords as anything even approaching their level. There was loud hue & cry about that... but the treasure classes never got any better.

From another angle, big NPC trade ships (T-series) are just as likely to be running commodities like grain or medical supplies as "tasty" loot because the greater share of commodity trading profits by bulk, not necessarily cargo "quality." So how would a pirate like it if the loot was... 436 Hydrogen or Biowaste?

I think it was Zac in the Dev Q&A thread but not 100% sure, I do remember a Dev recently saying that the cargo NPC's carry is linked to the area but some high value items were excluded. Sorry I can't link it or remember if they were talking about improving it, maybe someone with a better memory than I can fill in the gaps.
 
Just split the solo/open universe. Why do you care what happens in open? You play happily, on your own, with NPC interaction and open players interact how they want in their universe. Surely that works?

You're right, most rational people don't care what anyone else is up to in a non competitive game, and I for one don't care that players in Open, or groups I'm not a member of are affecting the BGS. It's a pretty big BGS.

The problem with your suggestion, I would respectfully suggest, is that the split off Open world would be nowhere near as alive with traders and explorers as you might want it to be, and might even be pretty bereft of people after a bit of PvP fun, especially when CQC lands, and it will cost them nothing to lose a fight there.

Then what? Back to the forums, complaining that it's not fair that people are choosing not to play with you? So no, I really don't think it would work, and I'm guessing FD don't either, or they'd probably have done it...
 
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Just split the solo/open universe. Why do you care what happens in open? You play happily, on your own, with NPC interaction and open players interact how they want in their universe. Surely that works?

Frontier have made a feature of the fact that we all share the same galaxy state, regardless of which mode (and now which platform) we play on. That seems to be very unlikely to change.

I care what happens in Open because that's where I spend the vast majority of my time - however occasionally I suffer from massive drops in framerate that also manifests itself as very unresponsive controls, especially in SC with other commanders in the instance - it would be impossible to attack / defend / escape if interdicted in that situation - it never happens in Solo.

It's everyone's galaxy - that's the way that Frontier designed it from the outset - and that's the way that they've made it.
 
Stop having an influence on me when i can't see you. It's like some invisible thief skulking around my home and stealing from me under my feet with no repercussions.

Wow. Just going for the hot buttons, eh?

Quit making as much money as you do (in real life) because it changes the tax rate. Quit voting for the party I think is the most useless as you are affecting the political scene and I can't stop you. Quit buying so much soda as you are encouraging weight gain.

Think of your own examples - 50 points. You have 10 minutes. Go!
 
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yeah my DBS is 289k per rebuy at the moment >.< Not counting the scan data and bounty I had on me when it happened. So yeah.. was an expensive pop.

I got some great bounty's last night, 250k for 1 ship, I got the kill but left with no canopy and 22 mins of air, I docked in about 7 mins but am still so glad I A rated the life support, 25 minutes is great, I used to let the Empire & Alliance bounty's stack to ~ 1 mill CR, these days I cash in at half that, the AI is a lot better than it used to be.

That's the 3rd canopy in as many weeks, I got away twice, the other time I lost my drives and got slaughtered.
 
I got some great bounty's last night, 250k for 1 ship, I got the kill but left with no canopy and 22 mins of air, I docked in about 7 mins but am still so glad I A rated the life support, 25 minutes is great, I used to let the Empire & Alliance bounty's stack to ~ 1 mill CR, these days I cash in at half that, the AI is a lot better than it used to be.

That's the 3rd canopy in as many weeks, I got away twice, the other time I lost my drives and got slaughtered.

yet according to some NPCs are no issue...
 
Just split the solo/open universe. Why do you care what happens in open? You play happily, on your own, with NPC interaction and open players interact how they want in their universe. Surely that works?

I mine in open.

I'm still on my own, but I go mining in open.
Do I not get a say in what happens in open mode? - as I do use open?
 
I chickened out...
and went for a Vulture

i c wut you did there... chicken/vulture :D

There should be a ship, The Chicken. It randomly fills your hold with eggs which you can sell like rares.
It would also be less maneuverable than a T-series (for balance!)

But it would only be available in solo/group modes :D


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Please don't force me to free solo climb too....

(I used to do that too - but that was about 6 stone and 20 years ago :p )

Getting near the top age where I really should quit. But I see a rock and...
 
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