Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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bitstorm

bitstorm
Atinus said:
Okay, studying another video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2FQzPIZqms

I'd say it's definitely the same audio playing each time, as far as I can tell, regardless of location. Any second opinions?

So if the sound/music is a message, it's always the same message. When I get home, I'll see if I can decipher what notes are being played with my piano. I can also try to run the audio through Melodyne to see if it can pick out all discernible notes. But there are only about 6 notes that seem decipherable. See the 1:27 mark. Those are the notes I'd focus on. The "chatter" around it could be numbers for a system name.
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That chatter is actually morse code, human morse code. It's the name of the nearest star, planet or space station. That is the one thing we do know!

Just so we all use the same terminology...


Honk/wail=>chittering=>purrs=>repeat
 
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clavain

clavain
BTW, has anyone verified (and if not, can someone verify) that the Morse in this clip says "Soontill"? I'm no good at that sort of thing. Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2xM5o7YyqM&feature=youtu.be&t=43m35s

And for the folks carrying the things around, if you are near Kumbaya might be worth dropping in there with one and seeing if anything out of the ordinary happens or if the Morse is different? Just an easy one to knock off the list.
 
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Atinus

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bitstorm said:
That chatter is actually morse code, human morse code. It's the name of the nearest star, planet or space station. That is the one thing we do know!

Just so we all use the same terminology...


Honk/wail=>chittering=>purrs=>repeat
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Have we noticed that the signal repeats exactly every 60 seconds? I note the notes I'm alluding to at :27, 1:27, and 2:27.

On edit: Actually, about every 58 seconds. So the marks I note are at :28, 1:26, and 2:24.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Zenith said:
You might be disappointed with the celestial mechanics of ED.

I was in a system with a rocky planet that whipped around a small M class star in about 10 minutes. I parked myself ON the orbit line of the planet while it was on the far side of the star and waited. What I was hoping to see was a transit of the star.
What happened was that the planet came up on me at a visible speed and when it was 1Mm away, I was caught up by the instance of the planet. I was orbiting the star at the same speed as the planet, but 1Mm ahead of it.
I didn't think to check if the associated body changed from the star to the planet, but it probably did.
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Yes I am disappointed. =(

I think it's 2Mm.

First test I plonked myself on the orbit, deployed a hydrogen canister and waited for the moon to come round, the canister disappeared. Tried again, the same.

It seems when you change frame of reference to another body any deployed canisters just disappear - just poof, gone. =(

Obviously this would be a problem with a UA. So next test was to see if just getting close would change the nearest body (the bottom left strip). As you can see in this video it doesn't change until you jump into the moon's frame. This says to me that strip is your frame of reference (I can't see anything in the manual defining what it is).

This was the reason I was asking if the UA always morses what's in the bottom left strip, because if it does I cannot do a "changing morse" test. =(

I also think it would be useful to know because if the UA morse does always match the bottom left strip then it might help more precisely define what the UA is actually detecting and morsing.

Is the morse actually the frame of reference? It's just nearest body seems a bit imprecise.

[video=youtube_share;pHli1fbBneg]http://youtu.be/pHli1fbBneg[/video]

Pretty impressive system though, I'd recommend folk to go there and play with it!
 

clavain

clavain
Han_Zen said:
Sea turtle has eight ribs.
Several other bits of the UA look to be made of Sea turtle bits.
- the tripod heads.
- the brain looking part on either side of the head of the UA matches the turtles bottom plate shape and pattern.
- the Maya markings look like the patterns turtles have on their fins and head.

There is probably more.

These sounds are also freakishly familiar: http://youtu.be/N2tmiN8N2uY

But what does it mean? I can't remember any turtle references in GalNet.

Isn't there a 'Turtle dock'?

Or is it 'I Bootis' to feed it?

I'm a bit lost here :)
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Sorry, just getting caught up and posting before reading all the way back again, just saw your earlier sea turtle posts and the ribs discussion. Will give this some thought, am out of rep for both you and the owner of the hires UA images (Red?)

Edit: Sea Turtles and Whales, I like it ;-)
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
clavain said:
BTW, has anyone verified (and if not, can someone verify) that the Morse in this clip says "Soontill"? I'm no good at that sort of thing. Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2xM5o7YyqM&feature=youtu.be&t=43m35s

And for the folks carrying the things around, if you are near Kumbaya might be worth dropping in there with one and seeing if anything out of the ordinary happens or if the Morse is different? Just an easy one to knock off the list.
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Aye "Soontill".

I visited Kumbaya yesterday it has a bunch of planets in it, nothing out of the ordinary though as far as I can see.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Atinus said:
Have we noticed that the signal repeats exactly every 60 seconds? I note the notes I'm alluding to at :27, 1:27, and 2:27.
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if it repeats every 60 seconds that's just coincidence.

It's Honk/wail=>chittering=>purrs=>repeat

The chittering is the morse of the local body name so it varies.

The purrs is static and is (I believe) always ~18.6 seconds.

Go to another system or another body in the same system and it won't be 60 seconds.

Have a look at this test, it's an ultra short morse length....

[video=youtube;Q-MU5oYJdr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-MU5oYJdr0[/video]
 
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clavain

clavain
Han_Zen said:
Just listen to it: http://youtu.be/N2tmiN8N2uY
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I did. I was being serious. ;-)

There is a Mayan turtle/cosmology link as well:

Toward dawn on the night of Aug 13, the constellation Orion moves toward the zenith. The K'iche' people still refer to a triad of three bright stars in Orion as "the hearth stones", and the hazy nebula below Orion's belt is called "the smoke from the hearth". Orion is also called the turtle stars (ak' ek), depicted in the Madrid Codex as a turtle with three tun ("stone") glyphs on its back. Because the sky has not yet been raised, the hearth is a location in both earth and sky. The turtle shell is an earth symbol, like the back of the crocodile at the foot of the World Tree. Here is the place of Creation, where the sky will rise
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Also: http://freethoughtnation.com/world-tree-as-milky-way-growing-out-of-the-back-of-a-turtle/

Edit: If believed, the three stars are Rigel, Saiph, and Alnitak:

http://wakinguponturtleisland.blogspot.ca/2007/03/ak-ek-or-stars-turtles-and-pigs.html
 
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Nicholas Powell

Nicholas Powell
Arcanonn said:
Thank you guys who have offered reward money, I'm not sure for now if we would get many takers capable of doing the job unless it was for a mind bending amount of money/cargo.
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A tragically fair point, Doctor. Damn such irritating facts and truths! Damn them all to Hell!
*Calms down. Mulls over a Ginger Nut*
Hmm... If only we could get 16 commanders in the same instance in Timocani for a couple of hours or so...
Is the Canonn capable of logistics as well as throwing science at the wall?
 

Atinus

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bitstorm said:
Go to another system or another body in the same system and it won't be 60 seconds.
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I see your point. Not every 60 seconds in this video. Instead, it's every 107 seconds at :30, 2:17, and 4:04.

How fascinating.

I note the notes are still the same at those key points.

Therefore, depending on where the artefact is dropped, its signal changes with the morse code, and the length of the entire sequence changes, but the notes used at those points do not change.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Atinus said:
I see your point. Not every 60 seconds in this video. Instead, it's every 107 seconds at :30, 2:17, and 4:04.

How fascinating.

I note the notes are still the same at those key points.

Therefore, depending on where the artefact is dropped, its signal changes with the morse code, and the length of the entire sequence changes, but the notes used at those points do not change.
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I'm a bit confused what you're referring to.

At :30, 2:17 & 4:04 is the honk/wail.

But that also occurs at other time intervals.

It's at 30, 57, 1:23, 1:50, 2:16 and so on

Essentially every ~27 seconds. The reason it's so short is because the morse length is short - "Io".

I count 13 of them over the 6.5 ish minutes.
 
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Atinus

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bitstorm said:
I'm a bit confused what you're referring to.

At :30, 2:17 & 4:04 is the honk/wail.

But that also occurs at other time intervals.

It's at 30, 57, 1:23, 1:50, 2:16 and so on

Essentially every ~27 seconds. The reason it's so short is because the morse length is short - "Io".

I count 13 of them over the 6.5 ish minutes.
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What I'm referring to at those intervals from your video at :30, 2:17, 4:04, and again at 5:51, all separated by 107 seconds, are instances of 6 or 7 notes playing. Sounds like a violin playing or something. Buh-du-duhh-du-du-buh-buh. :)
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
clavain said:
I did. I was being serious. ;-)

There is a Mayan turtle/cosmology link as well:



Also: http://freethoughtnation.com/world-tree-as-milky-way-growing-out-of-the-back-of-a-turtle/

Edit: If believed, the three stars are Rigel, Saiph, and Alnitak:

http://wakinguponturtleisland.blogspot.ca/2007/03/ak-ek-or-stars-turtles-and-pigs.html
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That is funny because there is also a Chinese Constelation called 'Turtle beak'. It's also Orion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Beak_(Chinese_constellation)
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
I also think it would be useful to know because if the UA morse does always match the bottom left strip then it might help more precisely define what the UA is actually detecting and morsing.
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No, it's not always what's in the bottom-left strip. For example, it will still tap out the name of the nearest body even if you haven't discovered it (i.e it is either unexplored, or not on your sensor at all).

Additionally, if it says "deep space", it will still be the nearest celestial object (i.e the morse won't tap out "deep space").
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
Jmanis said:
No, it's not always what's in the bottom-left strip. For example, it will still tap out the name of the nearest body even if you haven't discovered it (i.e it is either unexplored, or not on your sensor at all).

Additionally, if it says "deep space", it will still be the nearest celestial object (i.e the morse won't tap out "deep space").
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I mentioned the deep space in my original question, you're right on the unexplored, that's another case.

But the what I'm trying to get at is what is the UA showing specifically. In both those above cases it doesn't matter, if it's frame of reference then we can ignore unexplored. If it's deep space well the UA is arguably more correct as (I think) it provides the name of the star (or system) which IS the frame of reference. (not that systems move in ED but the logic holds I think)

I just think I want to suggest it's not the nearest body, it's the frame of reference, there could be instances where the frame of reference is not the nearest body.

Or perhaps it's most influential gravitational object but although that's more real world rather than game mechanics it gets a bit sticky near say an outpost.
 
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