Mass - lock is irrelevant. All you need to do is Hyper - Jump to the next system if you need to get away.
Nerf crowd about to ruin the game again
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Mass - lock is irrelevant. All you need to do is Hyper - Jump to the next system if you need to get away.
Except at that point they should just remove them as it would put those like myself, that don't use them, at a really huge disadvantage.
I understand the whole sentiment of the pvp crowd ruining things for the pve crowd though as it happens so often in mmos. Skills get nerfed to balance them for pvp which makes them bad for pve as you can't really balance a game for both unless the pvp skills and pve are entirely different and can only be used where they meant to be, pvp or pve not both.
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Yet in this instance if I'm on that list there is no reason other than I have a different view, so he effectively made it artificially seem I stoped disagreeing with him. I like the fact we have an ignore button here so we can ignore troll's, but i was genuinely just discussing the topic at hand.
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It's not despicable. There is nothing wrong with not being particularly good at combat in a video game, come on! We don't measure our worth as human beings by our ability to make pretty explosions on a video game screen.
If you can't manage SSSs or CZs in a big or powerful ship without SCBs you can't do Elite combat well. That isn't an insult that's just the way it is.
Then pack some armour too. Or spot when you're becoming a target for too many ships and bug out sooner.
No. Alone. And as I say, I suck. A human Asp forced me to flee in my Anaconda once (although he was popping SCBs like they were going out of fashion).
I've lost my shields and remained in a CZ, destroying my attackers, before bugging out. I lost some of the hull but I still got out. Are you using any armour at all? If not then yes, you'll get your chronometer cleaned - but that's intentional. CZs are supposed to be risky.
there is an exception to this rule and that is High waking out of there.
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Nope. You're just a bad Anaconda driver perhaps? Remember, the Asp is way more maneuverable than the 'conda so it can get in tight behind you and wail on those shields - and your powerplant and/or drives - all day long with you barely being able to hit it. Any ship using silent running while fighting your 'conda will also be harder to kill because you can't lock on to it.
For every hit you land they will land 5 or more. That's not a successful ratio.
Fitted for trade Anaconda = fitted for it's own destruction. You're going to want chaff & SCBs and the highest grade thrusters to survive and a "trade fitted" Anaconda like it seems you fly (?) isn't going to survive long when they pile on.
With due respect, does not sound like you're good at PvE either. Average, yes. If you were good you would not have gotten yourself into the position you did.
Obvious solution would be for you to stay out of conflict zones entirely or, failing that, picking your fights more carefully.
You are describing a very specific case for a very general problem. I can't see how this is connected to what I said.
If ten ships decide to focus their fire on me I don't really expect to survive. I didn't survive in the original game if I couldn't keep the number of hostiles down to a reasonable number.
As this seems to turning into a Solo versus Open thread... For the record I play in Open, don't seek out PvP, am a poor pilot and don't find it a griefer's paradise.
Now I understand your frustration. You finally got your big bad Anaconda, and want to play with the big boys - well the big nasty NPC boys - at the SSS because that is where all the big bounties are. But you only have, at best, a C rated Anaconda so you compensate with SCBs. Ever thought you are trying to take on targets you are not equipped to fight? Ever thought about going into low RESs until you get sufficient funds to fully equip your ship? You are compensating ship imbalance by using SCBs. Damn I only fly a Vulture (with NO SBCs) and I survive fine, I am smart enough not to try to take on the big boys in a ship that isn't capable of winning.
That's a really, really good suggestion.
I am really on the fence with this topic. I can see in my anaconda the ability to really abuse SCB's but understand their need to be in the game. I guess this is a hard mechanic to balance out.
I really like the idea of perhaps limiting the number of SCB's a player can carry.
Personally I would like the SCB turned into a rechargeable capacitor that dumps a massive amount of power into your shields. But once that capacitor is drained it must be recharged drawing power from the Systems energy capacitor. Also, the more pips you have into the systems capacitor, the faster the SCB charges. This adds in another game dynamic where you will have to decide on charging your SCB faster, or have more power for engines or weapons. It also means that when you are out of combat, you are able to get your shields back up a lot faster, especially when your in an anaconda which can take up to 5 minutes sometimes even more, to fully recharge.
Also, you could have the SCB capacitor as a variable discharge device, meaning it dosent have to fully charge in order to use it. Perhaps you would have to have a threshold of 25% capacitance before you can use it, but after that whatever is in the SCB capacitor is what is pushed back into your shields.
I really like the idea of perhaps limiting the number of SCB's a player can carry.
Personally I would like the SCB turned into a rechargeable capacitor that dumps a massive amount of power into your shields. But once that capacitor is drained it must be recharged drawing power from the Systems energy capacitor. Also, the more pips you have into the systems capacitor, the faster the SCB charges. This adds in another game dynamic where you will have to decide on charging your SCB faster, or have more power for engines or weapons. It also means that when you are out of combat, you are able to get your shields back up a lot faster, especially when your in an anaconda which can take up to 5 minutes sometimes even more, to fully recharge.
Also, you could have the SCB capacitor as a variable discharge device, meaning it dosent have to fully charge in order to use it. Perhaps you would have to have a threshold of 25% capacitance before you can use it, but after that whatever is in the SCB capacitor is what is pushed back into your shields.
A Nerf would be kind of ridiculous, If someone wants to put as many shield cell banks on their ship as will fit that is their decision. And if you get owned by them for not doing the same that is your fault for not spending the money or equipping your self to a full combat loadout or at very least scanning them to see what they pack before you go picking fights. And for everyone who thinks shield cell banks are unrealistic or OP, check yourself because its over 1000 years in the future and they have managed to create shields, you would literally have to be brain dead to think they couldn't invent what is basically a large battery/ Capacitor to dump a large amount of stored energy into your shields.
Im not into PVP, i do like to meet pilots tho.
Personaly i think the idea´s written by Agony_Aunt & vindicator jones is pretty good, it would make both Pve and PVP more interresting.
Pvp fights would be more about who is the better pilot and not about who has the most SCBs
Pve wise it would make things more interresting due to the cooldown of the SCB. (ofcos the NPC should also use SCB)
I do hope that FDevs listens to us, but that they think about the changes they make before they make them.
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This. Everyone would hate SCBs the moment NPCs started using (and stacking piles of) them as well. And maybe they should, after all stacking piles of SCBs is a "game mechanic".
I posted something in the other thread about this that outlines my concerns in a (hopefully) readable and logical manner!
I think you may be overreacting here.
Nevertheless, I play predominantly "PvE" and I for one don't use SCBs, don't much care for them and certainly don't see them as critical to PvE. My preference would be that as long as SCBs exist they should be limited to one module per ship, as with other type-limited modules. So in a sense that would be a "nerf" I would agree with. It certainly wouldn't bother me in the least if they were removed altogether, but I don't think that is necessary.
So with respect, I think you create a false 'them and us' (PvP vs PvE) mentality when you assume all predominantly PvE players fall into your "Don't nerf SCBs!" camp.
What's important, in my opinion, is how "needed" is any one module, and right n SCB's are far too important if you play in open. If you are interdicted by a Cmdr, it's really only a matter of who has the most SCB's. I read another post, no link, can't remember, where someone posted an invincible Anaconda, it had so many SCB's on it, it would last over an hour I imagine. That just breaks the game, they need more balance.
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