The Xbox E:D Horizons discussion thread

[Doubletap68]

Since the prior thread was closed, I thought perhaps we could continue to discuss this expansion here.
I have every intention of buying it, but I am curious as to what sorts of things, in terms of planetary landings, people expect to be able to do... in addition to what's revealed?

 

[Stealth Gamer92]

At first? Maybe just find shipwreck's and hidden bases or even abbandoned bases that give off the feel of an Alien movie metal stressing and banging noises, and of course buggy racing. Later? Full blown planetary starport's, exotic lifeforms etc. etc.

 

[lefty1117]

It sounds like we will be able to find mining nodes as well, though how that will work in terms of the actual mining is not clear. I think what is REALLY interesting though, is in the PC Gamer interview they mentioned crafting & loot system is coming in 2016.

 

[Janx]

One scenario I thought would be interesting, is if you could crash your ship on a planet and have to survive/wait for rescue. Granted, wait for rescue might be as easy as sign off, contact a Fuel Rat type group and sign back in when they are in orbit.

 

[GG7]

Since the prior thread was closed, I thought perhaps we could continue to discuss this expansion here.
I have every intention of buying it, but I am curious as to what sorts of things, in terms of planetary landings, people expect to be able to do... in addition to what's revealed?

Unfortunately, according to the PRE-ORDER page I was just at, this is PC ONLY!

There is no mention of Horizons coming to Xbox One or the Mac this year. I have no doubt it will eventually, but since I don't own a PC or the PC version of the game, this news doesn't have anything to do with us on the XB1 version... YET.

Good to know that they are working on stuff like this, but sadly, the PC is getting this way ahead of us.

 

[mark0ne]

Unfortunately, according to the PRE-ORDER page I was just at, this is PC ONLY!

There is no mention of Horizons coming to Xbox One or the Mac this year. I have no doubt it will eventually, but since I don't own a PC or the PC version of the game, this news doesn't have anything to do with us on the XB1 version... YET.

Good to know that they are working on stuff like this, but sadly, the PC is getting this way ahead of us.

I doubt they think it's a good idea releasing a paid for expansion on a preview game not ready for retail release. I am hoping they give Xbox players a release date soon after our version is retail release ready.

 

[crimzonrazor]

My guess is Horizons will come to xbox IF they get enough sells on Elite if the game dont do well they wont bring it over. My guess is thats why they didnt say anything about a xbox release because they dont know if they will have the sales at this time to do it. If you want it on the xbox tell your friends to get Elite on their console and help the hype train whenever you can its the only way your going to get it let people know what they are missing by not playing.

 

[Doubletap68]

Well, I didn't mean I'd buy it this year. Although if it's spectacular, I'll get it on PC.

 

[Lock]

While I like the idea of planet landing I'd really like FD to first make the vanilla game complete before thinking to expansions. At the moment you can do a lot of things but you can't say it's a fun game.
It sounds more like a job: Go and mine for hours, go back and forth between two systems selling stuff, kill kill kill a lot of sidewinders and eagles, go and search forever inside USS for someone to shot at.
I don't know, I'd like complex missions, some sort of long quests to follow around the universe.

Landing to a planet and running around with a buggy? Well, if I want it I can load Mass Effect 1. ;P

 

[mavrac]

Unfortunately, according to the PRE-ORDER page I was just at, this is PC ONLY!

There is no mention of Horizons coming to Xbox One or the Mac this year. I have no doubt it will eventually, but since I don't own a PC or the PC version of the game, this news doesn't have anything to do with us on the XB1 version... YET.

Good to know that they are working on stuff like this, but sadly, the PC is getting this way ahead of us.

This is not an attack on you or others that have shared your interest in this announcement.

1- Frontier stated after E3 that they would be releasing content for the pc first, it was big and they had been working on it for a long time

2- This game would not exist at all without the backing of thousands like myself who backed at a level of cost that is much MUCH more than X1 players spent

3- Frontier stated from the beginning before going to even mac, that PC would always take precedence because PC is where all the funding came from

4- CQC was the exception, this upset PC gamers though its understandable due to CQC not being apart of the original PC road map

5- X1 obviously will get this in time, and probably not long after PC

6 lastly being upset due to PC first and pricing is pretty outrageous considering x1 purchase price is 30 and most of the pc backers gave no less than 150 and upwards of 1000 for the development of this game.

So yes the x1 comes last on the list and well it rightly should, yes i play on both but honestly we wouldn't be playing this game if backers didn't FUN this wonderful game.

So be thankful you can play it at all. Be thankful that this game didn't go the Star Citizen route and say no to consoles, be thankful that if it was not for the backers you'd be playing another game and would have missed out on one of the best space games to ever release

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Lakon Elite

 

[GG7]

It also wasn't clear to me if this would be INCLUSIVE of the main game, or if this is something that you launch into off the splash screen that is basically a separate game. Since not everyone is going to buy this Horizons addition, it makes you wonder how they would be able to add it to the existing game in terms of separating players in the main game that purchased the Horizons expansion and those who did not.

This is what makes me think that although everything will behave the same as the main game, it will be its own stand alone entity. Maybe the main game and Horizons will both be rolled in to one game, but only those who purchased the expansion will be seen playing in the main game sections? So, TWO versions of the main game running on the FD servers? (Original ED, and the Original ED + Horizons Expansion)

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I doubt they think it's a good idea releasing a paid for expansion on a preview game not ready for retail release. I am hoping they give Xbox players a release date soon after our version is retail release ready.

Well DUH! I didn't think I had to spell out what I meant, but I guess I did.

 

[Janx]

It also wasn't clear to me if this would be INCLUSIVE of the main game, or if this is something that you launch into off the splash screen that is basically a separate game. Since not everyone is going to buy this Horizons addition, it makes you wonder how they would be able to add it to the existing game in terms of separating players in the main game that purchased the Horizons expansion and those who did not.

This is what makes me think that although everything will behave the same as the main game, it will be its own stand alone entity. Maybe the main game and Horizons will both be rolled in to one game, but only those who purchased the expansion will be seen playing in the main game sections? So, TWO versions of the main game running on the FD servers? (Original ED, and the Original ED + Horizons Expansion)

I didn't read it that way. They said there would be smooth transition/no load times.

So I think if you buy Horizons, your ship can enter Atmo. If you don't, your ship cannot get within X altitude (current behavior)

 

[Stealth Gamer92]

I didn't read it that way. They said there would be smooth transition/no load times.

So I think if you buy Horizons, your ship can enter Atmo. If you don't, your ship cannot get within X altitude (current behavior)

^This. Also, FDev has always said Xbox will get the full Elite Dangerous experience so it's....I won't say what it is that you said something that could easily be proven wrong with a 3 second search.

 

[mavrac]

I didn't read it that way. They said there would be smooth transition/no load times.

So I think if you buy Horizons, your ship can enter Atmo. If you don't, your ship cannot get within X altitude (current behavior)

You're right on there sir

If you purchase said content you will get content related features could be ships, kits, or ATMO ability etc, and if you didn't than you won't get this content but will not affect either player, game play wise some of the content will still be accessible to non purchasers and some will be exclusives like ATMO though doubtful ships will be exclusive. What i see as being more likely is ATMO kits for the current ships ones the purchasers can only access. But this is not impossible for FD due to the core gameplay will still be update for both parties.

Now, let it be known i do not pretend to be an employee, a tester, or any kind of professional her, or even in the know. I am just using logical reasoning due to the great many years of gaming on console and PC, so I'm just explaining a logical point of view on this that i know FD is capable of doing

 

[GG7]

My guess is Horizons will come to xbox IF they get enough sells on Elite if the game dont do well they wont bring it over. My guess is thats why they didnt say anything about a xbox release because they dont know if they will have the sales at this time to do it. If you want it on the xbox tell your friends to get Elite on their console and help the hype train whenever you can its the only way your going to get it let people know what they are missing by not playing.

I really hope that they are not going to be that shortsighted about bringing this to the XB1 based on existing unit sales. An add-on like this would give more longevity to the core game by offering a lot more things to do than just the main game offers, and would definitely give those potential new customers more reasons to by the game.

Then there is also the matter of their retail competition. Whether some around here want to admit it or not, "No Man's Sky" on the PS4 is going to be going head to head with ED for sales to a large segment of the console gaming public. (the ever growing segment that owns BOTH next gen consoles, and buys games for each of them based on the quality of that game, or that version) Every gamer I know with any serious interest in playing video games owns both consoles, or is planning to own both of them as soon as their must have game arrives on the scene. The few on my friends list that have held out buying a PS4 up till now are very interested in No Man's Sky.

NMS apparently comes out of the box with planetary landings on ALL types of planets as part of the core game, and includes lifeforms all over the place to interact with. If FD thinks that not stepping up to the plate and adding the Horizons expansion to the XB1 is going to help them get more new customers, well... I can't believe they would ever believe that. And again, despite what some on these forums think, the majority of gamers view BOTH IPs as being similar enough to choose between one or the other, while others plan to buy both and play both extensively. That is where I'm at with the two games. Different enough to make a switch from one to the other a nice change of pace, but similar enough that you still get your "Space Game" fix with either title.

So.. It would be in the best interest of the game's ultimate retail success to offer potential new customers with as much as possible, and that would have to include planetary landings and everything else contained in this Horizons expansion. Otherwise, when NMS does finally hit the market, there is always going to be that comparison made that ED only offers half of the potential areas to explore as NMS offers. With Horizons added in, there is a lot more similar than not.

My two cents on that theory.

 

[GG7]

I didn't read it that way. They said there would be smooth transition/no load times.

So I think if you buy Horizons, your ship can enter Atmo. If you don't, your ship cannot get within X altitude (current behavior)

I hope you are right. That would be the best way to do it.

Also...They are not going to allow you to land on anything but airless moons in this first iteration. That means that Earth-like planets and any others with an atmosphere will still be off-limits to even Horizon expansion buyers. I assume that eventually ALL planets will be "landable".

 

[CMDR Nef]

So what we're looking at here, is a PC release of Horizons in a few months time, around December/early Jan if there's a delay. Then comes the Mac and X1 versions, probably around summer, or a little later. The first part is going to be airless, rocky moons and planets only for around 50$. Then, after some updates to that gameplay, some crafting elements etc, and the rest of Season two. The pass is what, 150$? Landing on atmosphere'd planets with life and cities and stuff, is much, much farther down the line. A separate expansion in fact! Season three! Then, after that, first/third person. I thought the walking around your ship etc would be first, but it seems it's years off yet. Guessing we'll be able to go to planets like Jupiter and Earth in 2017, and get first person in 2018, according to what the devs were saying on their twitch and in their Q&As today.

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I hope you are right. That would be the best way to do it.

Also...They are not going to allow you to land on anything but airless moons in this first iteration. That means that Earth-like planets and any others with an atmosphere will still be off-limits to even Horizon expansion buyers. I assume that eventually ALL planets will be "landable".

Yes. ED and ED:H people will be in the same universe, same server, but the ED people won't be able to land on planets. So, figure it like Sol is now. No permit, (expansion) no pass to go to Sol. You buy the expansion, and you get clearance to go to these rocky moons and planets.

 

[Stealth Gamer92]

Also...They are not going to allow you to land on anything but airless moons in this first iteration. That means that Earth-like planets and any others with an atmosphere will still be off-limits to even Horizon expansion buyers. I assume that eventually ALL planets will be "landable".

The 2.0 and likely a few of the version's after 2.0 will only have that, but they'll deffinately finish making all planet's able to be landed on before 3.0. That's what I meant when I brought up the other planet's in it was either this thread or another.

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So what we're looking at here, is a PC release of Horizons in a few months time, around December/early Jan if there's a delay. Then comes the Mac and X1 versions, probably around summer, or a little later. The first part is going to be airless, rocky moons and planets only for around 50$. Then, after some updates to that gameplay, some crafting elements etc, and the rest of Season two. The pass is what, 150$? Landing on atmosphere'd planets with life and cities and stuff, is much, much farther down the line. A separate expansion in fact! Season three! Then, after that, first/third person. I thought the walking around your ship etc would be first, but it seems it's years off yet. Guessing we'll be able to go to planets like Jupiter and Earth in 2017, and get first person in 2018, according to what the devs were saying on their twitch and in their Q&As today.

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Yes. ED and ED:H people will be in the same universe, same server, but the ED people won't be able to land on planets. So, figure it like Sol is now. No permit, (expansion) no pass to go to Sol. You buy the expansion, and you get clearance to go to these rocky moons and planets.

That season pass is all future expansion's from how I understand it, the FPS Horisons etc.

 

[CMDR Nef]

The 2.0 and likely a few of the version's after 2.0 will only have that, but they'll deffinately finish making all planet's able to be landed on before 3.0. That's what I meant when I brought up the other planet's in it was either this thread or another.

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That season pass is all future expansion's from how I understand it, the FPS Horisons etc.

That would be the lifetime expansion pass. That's like 200$ and includes the future seasons.

Edit: That is PC only though.

 

[Stealth Gamer92]

That would be the lifetime expansion pass. That's like 200$ and includes the future seasons.

Hmm, I can't see them trying to sell Planetary Landing twice but who know's.