Star Citizen's Gamescom Presentation has 30X More Viewers than ED on Twitch!
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SC has a lot more marketing investment, tons of very good looking non-gameplay and cutscene videos all around, promises the world and beyond.
However, with a bazillion dollars (~80 million) made in kickstarter, have so far delivered nothing.
Elite was funded with only a tiny fraction of the SC's kickstarter funds, and delivered, even with its flaws, the best space-sim ever released, with a lot more content and features to come.
SC delivered stationary ships that you can buy for 3 or 4 times the price of Horizon, but you can only stare at them inside a hangar.
Yet somehow FD is the bad guy, exploiting people with their extreme, 6 times the price of a Big Mac hamburger price for Horizon, while SC seems to be the Holy Grail...
However, with a bazillion dollars (~80 million) made in kickstarter, have so far delivered nothing.
Elite was funded with only a tiny fraction of the SC's kickstarter funds, and delivered, even with its flaws, the best space-sim ever released, with a lot more content and features to come.
SC delivered stationary ships that you can buy for 3 or 4 times the price of Horizon, but you can only stare at them inside a hangar.
Yet somehow FD is the bad guy, exploiting people with their extreme, 6 times the price of a Big Mac hamburger price for Horizon, while SC seems to be the Holy Grail...
A better marketing strategy wouldnt hurt ED
To be fair - SC has the potential to be Epic.
If it stops the hype and concentrates on getting the game out with all the promised features then I'll buy it for certain.
It just looks too far away for me.
SC Seems to have an "unknown excitement" draw to it. In actual gameplay what has been released for it is woeful for the amount of development time it has had IMO, and I stopped following it until release a while ago (I boot it up every couple months).
Honestly it's irrelevant how many viewers it has, because it's not so much a game as an idea, and what with ideas being bulletproof and all that, it's easier to get people into it, at least in the extremely short term.
E D is showing off content you can currently play, will be able to play extremely soon or before end of year.
Apples & Oranges and all that jazz.
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Personally I'm amazed that what appears (in actual play) to be a badly-executed Cryengine mod gets so much coverage & attention. Nothing of value or substance has been released to the public for it, so really SC is just a giant wish-list of things the developers would like to do one day, at least until some actual content is released (if/when that happens).
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Honestly it's irrelevant how many viewers it has, because it's not so much a game as an idea, and what with ideas being bulletproof and all that, it's easier to get people into it, at least in the extremely short term.
E D is showing off content you can currently play, will be able to play extremely soon or before end of year.
Apples & Oranges and all that jazz.
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Personally I'm amazed that what appears (in actual play) to be a badly-executed Cryengine mod gets so much coverage & attention. Nothing of value or substance has been released to the public for it, so really SC is just a giant wish-list of things the developers would like to do one day, at least until some actual content is released (if/when that happens).
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The thing with hype is that when a game is not finished, you can make it more interesting than it will actually be. It's always like that. People are looking at SC and NMS and they're imagining perfect, flawless games. They don't think about the bugs, the balance issues and design problems when the game is nothing more than an idea in their head.
You could say almost the exact same thing about an upcoming Election.
The Elite Dangerous Gamescom Stream has an average of 600 viewers. Yet Star Citizen live stream has 18,309 viewers!
What's causing this big disparity?
- Is Frontier's marketing department lackluster?
- Star Citizen isn't released yet, still gets 30X more viewers and attention.
- Elite Dangerous has much more to show, but it still can't beat Star Citizen's popularity.
- Could Elite Dangerous Horizons be the game-changer and put Elite Dangerous ahead of SC?
- Star Citizen has more fans than Elite Dangerous, despite Elite being the longest running space-sim series in history.
- Elite Dangerous also fails to get as much hype as No Man's Sky
- No Man's Sky trailers have much more viewers than any ED trailer.
How can Elite Dangerous ever catch up if it has a head-start due to the early launch?
Think hard about this Frontier and up your game. Your marketing department is slacking. ED's losing potential customers, fans and sales.
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Yeah, but the ships look awful, and in a beautiful game about spaceships, that carries a lot of weight for me.
A few reasons:
- Star Citizen hasn't released a game, yet. This means the anticipation level is off the charts and garners a lot of attention (and teeth gnashing)
- 80 million dollars
- Elite fans are busy playing Elite, not watching Ed and Ambassadors play training demos for the tenth time.
- Elite already had its big reveal, no anticipation left, no reason to watch
- Hollywood and the American press is just completely enamored with Chris Roberts, most of them haven't heard of a Braben.
Really, its is in the same genre, but these games and their communities are like apples and oranges.
- Star Citizen hasn't released a game, yet. This means the anticipation level is off the charts and garners a lot of attention (and teeth gnashing)
- 80 million dollars
- Elite fans are busy playing Elite, not watching Ed and Ambassadors play training demos for the tenth time.
- Elite already had its big reveal, no anticipation left, no reason to watch
- Hollywood and the American press is just completely enamored with Chris Roberts, most of them haven't heard of a Braben.
Really, its is in the same genre, but these games and their communities are like apples and oranges.
Sc has lots of people watching streams,,,good for them,,,, but just maybe thats because ED has lots of people a bit busy to be watching streams because they're all flying around a 400 billion star galaxy,, i'm off back to the bridge of my Conda,, 15000ly out,, to enjoy this incredible Galaxy some more,, thread over
I would rather have had another Wing Commander game instead of SC.
Pretty much this. I watched the first and second days' recorded shows. I didn't see anything in either of those days that I either hadn't read here on the forums or in that dev post, or already seen video of (CQC). There was literally no new news other than Horizons and it will contain landing on airless rocks, driving around SRV's, and planet side combat zones which came on the first day. If there was some more news put out, I must have missed it.
The drone skimmers were announced on steam today, no?
Now that's something I missed, but my point still stands. If no news or new game play is going to be on the stream, there is very little incentive to watch.
True the hype is bigger for an unreleased game.
Elite Dangerous would never get 80 million dollars if Frontier accepted donations for development.
A lot of Elite players actually stopped playing or are waiting for more content and depth.
The latest few trailers still don't get as much viewers as trailers from Star Citizen and No Man's Sky. Same with the live streams, few people compared to SC.
The gaming media is global. CR and his team know how to hype up their game and get donations. Frontier doesn't come close with their marketing.
SC is much more successful with marketing, donation and hype. Star Citizen isn't out yet though so we cannot fully compare both games. Frontier would be wise to learn from that.
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