Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Yeah, pretty much. I'm tired and got mesmerized by the pretty thing. I do feel bad about it, you can imagine.
Sorry to hear about the loss of Bob, but repped for the science you did with it.
Listening to the UA dying, it gives of something like a scream when it bursts into 'spores'. I'm not an audio geek, but it definitely is a new sound.
 
Sorry to hear about the loss of Bob, but repped for the science you did with it.
Listening to the UA dying, it gives of something like a scream when it bursts into 'spores'. I'm not an audio geek, but it definitely is a new sound.

Well yeah, at least we have that sound to fiddle with. And a fully complete recording for the purr-movement.
 
Just to make a general comment on all this...

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Read this a while ago, but only just repped, sorry.

I couldn't agree more.

I have fallen into the 'here's a theory' camp on more than on occasion - but I'm trying to offer more practical ideas right now; and hopefully at some point somebody might pick then up. Biggest issue with my most recent idea was that there was no firm list of locations to go to (completely open ended, I know), and I don't know what else can be done about that. Wisdom of the crowd, probably.

I'd written more for this post questioning the wisdom of continuing to test the purrs, and more - but I've deleted it because ultimately I'm losing the desire to question these things any more - there simply aren't enough UAs to cover the experimental ground we need to cover.

My logic, on what is the next best test, is not the same as other's and if I'm in a minority in thinking certain tests are worthwhile or not imma just gonna have to suck it up, let the thread grow, observe, and hold my tongue!

I'm gonna start making my way back to the bubble in the meantime, in the hope I might be able get a UA myself. If by that point there's a consensus to work through a list of tests, then I'll follow that 100%. If not, then I'll do the tests I think are worthwhile and, once I'm dry, I'll start taking suggestions, as all UA carrying heroes have done so far (much respect there).

By extension, I also think that any current UA carrier has carte blanche to do the same - so I feel no frustration towards any of you for not wanting to follow any particular idea I might personally come up with :)
 
Sorry to hear about the loss of Bob, but repped for the science you did with it.
Listening to the UA dying, it gives of something like a scream when it bursts into 'spores'. I'm not an audio geek, but it definitely is a new sound.

Does sound like it didn't "want" to explode, for want of a better term - in other words, I don't feel that exploding is the purpose. Could it be like a cry for help in some way, in that case, all the transmitted signals? A "come find me I am at"? Seems ill-suited to the depths of space too, since it doesn't last long - if it was a nav beacon meant to guide ships, surely it would be more durable? Transmitting location might just be in desperation, rather than the intended purpose of the device? Not sure what that changes in terms of what we do with it though - find an environment it can thrive in?
 
The "I Can't Believe It's Not Biscuit Barrel!" Wing-Up bump-up
Tuesday 11th August - 1930hrs BST - Mobius - Timocani - Duration As It Happens

Maybe your wing can beat the current speed record of 90mins...

This is not another full-on Biscuit Barrel, per se. Another shall very likely be promoted soon. This is more of an ad-hoc wing-up camp-out since there's been little time to try and draw in as many commanders as possible. However, it will follow the general gist of Biscuit Barrel. If you're game, come on down. More the merrier, naturally.
I'm no authority. Autonomy is king. However, essentially as with Biscuit Barrel itself on Sunday, please ensure you are winging up with other commanders agreeing to either go all "My Precious" on the little cur, or "Here, kitty-kitty, I've a bag near a river for you..."
Assuming a success - Unless a willing former Bearer is preferred as recipient of the UA, I shall be happy to 'keep it parked' in my hold prior to passing on while a finalised expiration test and team are put together.

What's this exactly, a UA hunt? If you need people, I am happy to help out for this. Although I'm not off work and back home until much later, probably 0130 BST. If anyone is still on though and in need of wingman, feel free to send me a message. At the very least, I can distract some Anacondas while someone else coaxes goodies from a T9.
 
Sorry to just throw this in without reading the entirety of this or previous threads (I've read a bit!) and only spending a few hours on researching past experiments - but has anyone taken the musical note values and corresponding frequencies and used them to plot grid references on the Galaxy Map? The notes I've heard in the video recordings would appear to be D, B flat (or A), F and D. So 146.8, 233.1, 17461.468 if it's below a middle C. I can't tell the exact pitch so frequencies may be wrong - I don't play piano.
Apologies if this has already been done.
 
Rauminen, sorry for your loss, we'll try to use your footage to the fullest.

Ok, like my previous posts on Ratking and Zenith's double recordings, this one is probably going to be thrown into oblivion but I'll share with you my results anyway! I'm still on the same theory:


The Unknown Artefact appeared with 1.2 Wings, so I truly believe the solution can be achieved with joined efforts. At first we thought the two recordings didn't match, but after further analysis we discovered that they kinda do, with a slight offset.


At the beginning of Ratking's recording, we have two purrs.
At the beginning of Zenith's, we have three.


So I focused on the extra purr. And this is what I discovered:


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With no offset, there was a sound on Ratking's sample. I decided to zoom in:

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Now, it's a bit difficult to notice with an image but basically the two sounds at the beginning (orange box) are VERY similar. Then it's when the purr kicks in on Zenith's sample (purple box), to finally end while transitioning to a sound similar to Ratking's bit (red box).

This is just on the first extra purr. If anybody's interested, I can upload the audio samples so that you can understand better what I mean.

I hope I expressed myself properly. Thanks for reading.

(PS: "weird1_ass...ociated purr". Tell me if you want me to use spoiler tags.)
 
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I can't see any way to get that into base-6.

However, it could certainly be base-12 (the mayan/aztec system is base-20 by using up to 4 lines, using 3 lines with a max of 3 dots would give 12).

If you grouped those into sets of 3 (giving 3 sets of 3) and then converted to decimal - AFAICT it would give one of these (top-down or bottom-up):
900, 471, 1055
1627, 471, 42
[that's assuming 4 dots=zero]

They use base-6 or as it is described, hexagonal mathematics.

Maya stuff is base-20. It is just Thargoids that use hexagonal Math.

Nice - Han Zen Is the Hexagonal Math from oolite stuff?
 
Well, err, Bob's dead. At least we got a close-up footage out of it - all the let it expire crowd: tinfoil hats up.

Bob with 12 progen cells. Also a few shots of the "Mayan numbers": http://youtu.be/09vVrF_Rk1Q

Sad demise of Bob, accompanied by Heike tea, with some weird sound at the start (cargo hatch?) and more "Mayan number" shots: http://youtu.be/oewgkyopM1Q

I'm now reverted to Seeker.

Tests I still wanted to do today:
- 4 SAP 8, 4 Hafnium, 4 Trinkets of Hidden Fortune - in hold and out.
- 6 SAP and 6 Trinkets
- Double check if there's any obvious change in the galaxy map in-hold or out / with constellations activated or not
- Confirm that the green light on the "pods" changes with system - and if it does, how. In these videos I'm in Bast, the right second pod has a green light on it. In other vids I've seen it in a different position.
To clarify: Orient the UA in your head in a way you would place it on it's side on a flat surface. The "fin" in this case, looking up is the one set of pods which is aligned with the section of the head that is lighting up (has the "gills"). Then if you face it from behind - head is pointing forward in front of you - you have left and right set of pods.

It's a shame you were so zoomed in on the UA when it went pop.
The expiring scream does sound like it was Doppler shifted away from you.
The thing I'm looking for is the plasma/distortion that would show from the "head" end in the moment it goes pop.

I can't remember who said about rotating around it to view from different angles.
I make a specific point of trying to avoid looking through the UA at something because you get the background ambient sound for that object as well. If you looked towards the centre of the galaxy through the UA, then you would hear the background "chorus" sound interfering with the UA sounds. Same if you look at an Earth-like world, you'll get all soundscape of the planet as well as the UA sounds. When we were trying to get clean recordings, we tried to minimise the background sound as much as possible.
 
Now this is interesting. "Ayethi" is not a valid system name in FFE. The name was apparently incorrect in the journals, it should have been Ayethti [-3, -1]. So that implies that FD bought systems into ED from FFE based on the journals. Note that the Ayethi system in ED bears no resemblance to Ayethti in FFE except both have a Earth-like world named Topaz. So was Liaququ somehow missed, or...? Given that I've found several errors in the systems imported from real world catalogues, I wouldn't bet it was deliberately excluded.

Do you happen to have a list of all FFE system names in the lore or at least the journals? I'm not sure I feel like wading through all the journal entries. If not I'll check this list: http://www.frontierastro.co.uk/Gazetteer/intro.html

I don't have a list, but the systems are the FE2 systems with a few added.

Hotice is also missing. This was the system where Mycoid was made.

Hoeda is missing. This was the place they found 4000 year old alien ruins.

Most of the more mundane systems seem to have been included.

Time to put on the tinfoil hat?
 
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SORRY TO SHOUT! THIS IS NEW DECAYING FOOTAGE.

Some folks have been asking for this for a long time.

Also, I'm sorry to say this was a decay without a purpose. We missed an opportunity to perform a unique test that myself, Rauminen and a couple of others want to perform. Yes it is good that we have another decay recording, but bad that we didn't piggyback some of the test suggestions on top.
 
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Unfortunately, I don't think the Mayans did negative numbers :(.

Assuming the 'weird symbol' meant 'negative' rather than zero: 1627, 471, -42
Another interpretation might be 'minus 3' which would give: 1627, 471, -474

In theory you can convert numbers to greek and check against system names - but there's so many potential numbers that it seems crazy to me :(.

The maya numbers look to be date format according to long count callender.

We did a bit of research in the old thread. No result, but this date calculator is nice: http://www.dr-rock.biz/MayanDateCalculator

Give it a go.
 
Does sound like it didn't "want" to explode, for want of a better term - in other words, I don't feel that exploding is the purpose. Could it be like a cry for help in some way, in that case, all the transmitted signals? A "come find me I am at"? Seems ill-suited to the depths of space too, since it doesn't last long - if it was a nav beacon meant to guide ships, surely it would be more durable? Transmitting location might just be in desperation, rather than the intended purpose of the device? Not sure what that changes in terms of what we do with it though - find an environment it can thrive in?

The more I listen to it, the more I agree. It really DOES NOT WANT to die.

It's a shame you were so zoomed in on the UA when it went pop.
The expiring scream does sound like it was Doppler shifted away from you.
The thing I'm looking for is the plasma/distortion that would show from the "head" end in the moment it goes pop.

I can't remember who said about rotating around it to view from different angles.
I make a specific point of trying to avoid looking through the UA at something because you get the background ambient sound for that object as well. If you looked towards the centre of the galaxy through the UA, then you would hear the background "chorus" sound interfering with the UA sounds. Same if you look at an Earth-like world, you'll get all soundscape of the planet as well as the UA sounds. When we were trying to get clean recordings, we tried to minimise the background sound as much as possible.

Right. We should take more care about that - I noticed the bg sound, but wasn't aware of the logic to be honest.

Also, I'm sorry to say this was a decay without a purpose. We missed an opportunity to perform a unique test that myself, Rauminen and a couple of others want to perform. Yes it is good that we have another decay recording, but bad that we didn't piggyback some of the test suggestions on top.

Agreed, I'm not happy about it by the slightest. At least I now have a chance to use one of the few other names I came up with... ;)

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OK how about the greenish blip on different pods theory? Is that moot? Am I imagining things?
Edit: yeah, probably I am.
 
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If anybody's interested, I can upload the audio samples so that you can understand better what I mean.


Yes - upload them. I spent a few hours last night playing around with audio extracted from one of the recent videos. Trying different band pass filters to see (hear) what I could find. There are definitely a lot of noises overlaid to make the complete sound.

I see that someone has ripped all the UA audio.

With over 100 sound samples, I think it's pretty safe to assume the audio is significant!
 
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Has anyone tried destroy Sep-8 container near a UA

We know that what ever in Sep-8 container contains usually destabilizes if it release from it container perhaps the UA will stabilize it and reveal to us a map to Amarillo.
 
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I checked the map as if they were literal coordinates. There are no systems in both of these coordinates and the only thing close is too off to actually be something. It's name is Plio Eurl IQ-F B27-0.

Edit: Aaand someone did that in the previous page.
 
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Does sound like it didn't "want" to explode, for want of a better term - in other words, I don't feel that exploding is the purpose. Could it be like a cry for help in some way, in that case, all the transmitted signals? A "come find me I am at"? Seems ill-suited to the depths of space too, since it doesn't last long - if it was a nav beacon meant to guide ships, surely it would be more durable? Transmitting location might just be in desperation, rather than the intended purpose of the device? Not sure what that changes in terms of what we do with it though - find an environment it can thrive in?

Good question.. we have very limited environments at the moment that we can ferry it to.. to summarize.

1. Space - vast empty void, an almost perfect vacuum meaning really bad for anything that requires to "breathe". UA blows up in space after doing its distress like signal script.
2. Star's Coronae - see space add heat and tons of radiation also generally really bad for anything that lives. I'm assuming the UA also explodes here.
3. Black Holes - nature divides by zero there which is exactly where you wouldn't want to be.. the game doesn't simulate them well but I'm willing to bet that currently a UA would pop here and in the future it would be crushed to an atom... along with our dreams.
4. Ship's Cargo Hold - stable environment (providing you aren't destroyed) potentially climate controlled (for human climate) stops the UA from exploding but wants out and starts corroding through it.... two things with this. 1. it may not like human air.. 2. it may not like metal enclosures or metal in general which is what the ship is made of.
5. Space Station Docking Ring - more open than a ship's cargo hold but for the most part presenting the same restrictions plus (here's the part I don't like) wasn't this tried in a test and the UA still exploded? That tells me a game mechanic is overriding the script or an oxygen atmosphere is not the answer.
6. Planets - Well.... watch this space.
7. Asteroid belts / rings - mostly vacuum like space but may present more floating particles than open space thanks to particulates etc from collisions... who knows maybe water/ice asteroids? Will it pop here?
8. Nebulae - mostly vacuum like space unfortunately they look pretty at a distance but close up it might as well be open space. I'm thinking pop here too.

There that is all the environments I can think of. If anyone has any more to add to this it would be interesting to see, however so far the only thing we know from our "environments" available is that it won't explode if it is in a cargo hold... I'd say in a hold it also shuts up because I haven't heard anything about UA bearers complaining that their ship sounds like a tuning fork or a SeaWorld exhibit.

Happy hunting!
 
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