UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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Hi there guys.

I'm new to the party in terms of actually saying something, but I've been following for a while. I am not really firm in lore of the old games, I've been playing Wing Commander Privateer at the time (tomatoes are located to your left) and only with ED I have found my way into this universe.

Having that out of the way I want to throw a couple of things out there:

If I understand correctly the Thargoids are "located" in Witch Space, whatever exactly that may be, but apparently it's something we cannot access directly, but they can pull us into it from a hyperspace jump. Did I get that right? Because if that's the case, and the source of the UAs are black holes (which, as I understand, is far from established, but let's roll with it for a moment), then the source of the UAs are unlikely to be the Thargoids, as they don't appear to require black holes in order to be able to access our galaxy.

Now for the whole premise of something coming out of a black hole: There's a theory about pocket universes that spawn inside a black hole. Also, we don't know what's inside a black hole. FWIW it could contain another universe, or be a connection to one. Now certainly some of you may think "But these things don't even allow light to escape.", which is true, but just have a look at your speedometer when doing a hyperspace jump. You'll notice that it's gonna be over 9000 (sorry, but it's true) c. That means at this point you are travelling at a speed that's well beyond the speed of light and would therefore allow you to escape from at least some places where light will be trapped.
Remember, the event horizon of a black hole is only the event horizon for light, or stuff at the speed of light. The individual event horizon depends on speed. If you are slower than light your event horizon, your point of no return, will be farther away from the black hole than the event horizon that you see, light's event horizon. On the other hand, if you are faster, than your event horizon will be inside the boundaries set by light's event horizon.

Somebody came around with the idea of dropping a UA into a black hole. I think the best way to test this would be flying up to a black hole until you hit the exclusion zone, do a 180, go in reverrse until you hit the exclusion zone again, and then drop the UA. I don't think you'll be able to get the UA closer to a black hole any other way.

Finally an idea on what the UA might be. It's pretty simple, as it's been stated there's been some overthinking going on, and because of this simplicity I think it would be pretty silly if that would really be the solution, but ...
Could the UA simply point to Horizons? You guys have established that the UA kinda looks like a scarab in different stages of development. There's this scarab god system and it has a station called Very Horizons. Most of the free floating UAs have been found near black holes. And as discussed above, black holes have an event horizon. So, could it be that the UA is simply telling us "Hey, there's an expansion coming, and it's name is Horizons.", which would also fit in with the message that the secret will unlock, regardless of our success to find the answer to the riddle.

I know that this sounds silly, but I figured I'd throw it out there anyway.

Now, coming to an end, I would like to extend an offer, despite having reasonable doubts concerning possible success: I am currently on my way to the core, unrelated to this investigation. It's still gonna take a while, I've still got a good 20 kly ahead of me, but I would offer 2 hours of sitting duck around Sagittarius A*, plus another 2 hours at the Great Annihilator, if you guys think it's worth a shot, or if somebody by then manages to find a UA around another black hole.

Fly safe, Commanders!
 
Hey folks, I'm after an Unknown Artefact for a day or so.

- I wont destroy it
- I'll return it or pass it on to another, whichever you prefer
- I'll use it to contribute to the community effort

I'm around Sol and can travel to wherever you like. Perhaps give you some expensive cargo for your trouble? :)

Talking to via pm ignore the message for now please.
 
I'm pleased to be able to report that after hanging around HR 1185 for a couple of days, I have taken possession of the UA "Uri". It was found floating by itself at 16:15 today in a SSS 0.11 Ls from HR 1185 B.


I've taken my eyes off this mega thread. I've scanned the Wiki but have questions:

1. Someone mentioned the free floating UAs do not degrade. Is this a permanent condition. If scooped and jettisoned for example?

2. Does a permanent UA start to degrade if jettisoned in a different system?

3. Do regular UAs degrade if jettisoned in a system with a black hole?

Cheers,
UB
 
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I've taken my eyes off this mega thread. I've scanned the Wiki but have questions:

1. Someone mentioned the free floating UAs do not degrade. Is this a permanent condition. If scooped and jettisoned for example?

2. Does a permanent UA start to degrade if jettisoned in a different system?

3. Do regular UAs degrade if jettisoned in a system with a black hole?

Cheers,
UB

As soon as a free-floating UA is collected it becomes the same as all other cargo canisters: as soon as it's dropped, wherever it's dropped, it degrades.
 
I've taken my eyes off this mega thread. I've scanned the Wiki but have questions:

1. Someone mentioned the free floating UAs do not degrade. Is this a permanent condition. If scooped and jettisoned for example?

2. Does a permanent UA start to degrade if jettisoned in a different system?

3. Do regular UAs degrade if jettisoned in a system with a black hole?

Cheers,
UB

1. it stays like that until scooped

2. yes

3. yes

I haven't tried this myself but I think I've seen some of these mentioned.
 
reading that, i've just remembered and realised i was in a strong signal source with anacondas and that kind of comms chatter
but I was alone in my Asp doing smuggling / salvage missions, and once I saw anacondas I retreated
about 2 weeks ago i guess
though (i know this is not helpful) i cannot remember the name of the system
but it was somewhere within one jump in my Asp from Latorioson

EDIT: i'm pretty sure it was an inhabited system within a short jump of Latorioson and HR 1257 (it may have been Latorioson itself, but was definitely not HR 1257)
but i just remember seeing a bunch of local comms chatter come up and spotting a load of anacondas (and possibly a type 9), and i ran
so it might have been something else, or my memory may be getting falsely jogged by reading that reddit article
 
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1. it stays like that until scooped

2. yes

3. yes

I haven't tried this myself but I think I've seen some of these mentioned.

In that case I would lean towards the make-up of the system being a red-herring.

Early on I plotted convoy sightings in an attempt to extrapolate the UA source. I'll have another look now there are more sightings.
 
Can you check your geometry - I'm pretty sure if the symmetry of the 3 lines is 120degrees as an internal angle you'll need a hexgon pattern and hence 6 UA's?
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(Note, I know as much as you chaps. Probably less, so don't read too much into this)

Wasn't the Thargoid Mothership an Octagon, and the thargons (remote ships) distended pentagons?
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The 3 legs attached to the spine of the UA that hold the cylinders are in fact 120 degrees apart, so I agree with Mr Teatime that six UAs would be needed to form a hexagon.
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Hexagon or Cube . . . . . . Hex.png
 
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Crazy non-destructive idea about UAs!

I think we should entitle someone as "the Briefer", who'd collect ideas, suggestions and theories and would make a weekly post about them... What was proven wrong or true that week, new footage and such... It'd decrease the time required for people to catch up with the threads, it'd remind people of the theories accidentally discarded (due to forgetting about them after reading the posts and such) and it'd be our own little "weekly newsletter", could be called something like "The Canonn times".

TL;DR: Weekly brief that could be the form of a newsletter to encourage people reading them. (a picture and a title with time & date included posted into this thread weekly)

I'm not the best at this kind of thing, but if no one else volunteers and it would be appreciated I'll do it.

Edit: Thinking a bit more about it... Maybe every 3rd day would be better.
 
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You know, thinking about what DB said about how the community is "over-thinking" it...he said that right? Well if that's the case then I reckon there's probably no hidden message or anything. I think if it's simple, then it'll be something obvious - like as it gets closer to the correct system(s), the sounds change (get faster perhaps), or maybe it's something as simple as the UA needs to be pointing in the right direction and it'll change sounds? You know how if you look at the center of the galaxy, you get a noise? Well perhaps we need to point the UA at things...which I doubt many people have tried as people don't like touching the UA in case it gets damaged and explodes.
 
You know, thinking about what DB said about how the community is "over-thinking" it...he said that right? Well if that's the case then I reckon there's probably no hidden message or anything. I think if it's simple, then it'll be something obvious - like as it gets closer to the correct system(s), the sounds change (get faster perhaps), or maybe it's something as simple as the UA needs to be pointing in the right direction and it'll change sounds? You know how if you look at the center of the galaxy, you get a noise? Well perhaps we need to point the UA at things...which I doubt many people have tried as people don't like touching the UA in case it gets damaged and explodes.

Try here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP62RkWCgKI making it "Point" in a given direction may be problematic
 
Maybe that during the PURRS the UA is in an inactive state (sleep state), whilst during the HOWLS the it springs into action (awake state) illuminating different parts of its anatomy, its possible that we need to do something to it when it is in the active state.
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I don't know if sending different number values as a message has been tried before, it might be possible they only way they communicate is by using numeric values.
 
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Maybe that during the PURRS the UA is in an inactive state (sleep state), whilst during the HOWLS the it springs into action (awake state) illuminating different parts of its anatomy, its possible that we need to do something to it when it is in the active state.
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I don't know if sending different number values as a message has been tried before, it might be possible they only way they communicate is by using numeric values.

You mean like a mating call..? Since that happens following purrs that's very catlike.
 
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