UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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"Succeed or not it will unlock". Even if that does mean FD will just reveal everything if we don't figure it out, it doesn't actually say when. It could be 1.4 but equally it could be Horizons.

Maybe there is a region that the UA unlocks like a permit. Kerrash might just have been hinting that the region will unlock even if we don't figure it out, but that wouldn't necessarily mean that FD would reveal anything explicitly.

Yes it could be a region or it could mean the actual UA.
 
"Succeed or not it will unlock". Even if that does mean FD will just reveal everything if we don't figure it out, it doesn't actually say when. It could be 1.4 but equally it could be Horizons.

Maybe there is a region that the UA unlocks like a permit. Kerrash might just have been hinting that the region will unlock even if we don't figure it out, but that wouldn't necessarily mean that FD would reveal anything explicitly.

Er... I'm going to hate myself for this, but I just started wondering if there are any constellations that are related to locks or keys.

Turns out there is if you are Chinese: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_(Chinese_constellation)

The 'lock' is a 4-star part of a wider Chinese 'Mansion', found in the stars, called 'Room'.

It's located in Scorpius, which I don't think is the same direction as the Pleiades, so it's almost certainly nothing, but if there's anyone out that way, might be worth checking out. Oh and 'Antares' is part of Scorpius.

Would be good to find exactly which 4 stars it is that represent the 'lock' on this door.

But, anyway, just pointing out that there's another way to interpret the 'unlock' word :D
 
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Has anyone tried just exploring the system just go out and look at the orbit lines and see if there is something that does not show in the Nav panel but has an orbit line?
 
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Yes it could be a region or it could mean the actual UA.

Yes, for sure. I guess I just don't think there is much point in worrying about a possible deadline. It's not like we're lacking motivation. We can only do what we can and we'll either solve it or we won't. If we don't then we can always hand out the pitchforks.
 

Thanks, that's a first step. Since 1172 doesn't have T-Tauris, i think we can rule them out along with the black hole and the M type that isn't in 1185.

We should look at the B stars, the planets/moons and their properties. Age, mass, composition - maybe there is something in there.

If it's Thargoid related, and connected to colonisation, we should have a look and primarily compare the cold planets. But both systems have a lot in them. I hope someone finds a savage UA in another system.
 
Observations

I would say that yes.
When the next update happens, the ua part of the storyline will be completed whether we have solved it or not.
After the next update, the next part of the puzzle starts.

"Succeed or not it will unlock". Even if that does mean FD will just reveal everything if we don't figure it out, it doesn't actually say when. It could be 1.4 but equally it could be Horizons.
Maybe there is a region that the UA unlocks like a permit. Kerrash might just have been hinting that the region will unlock even if we don't figure it out, but that wouldn't necessarily mean that FD would reveal anything explicitly.

Yes it could be a region or it could mean the actual UA.


As usual I will for sure regret my post:

#0 regions lock is tested up to Regor ...
#1 CMDR Kerrash has "moderated" later his own first statement under the DEV update post ;-)
#2 IMHO: same CMDR has stated in the #114 stream he "hope that you will find out things about UA until the next update"
#3 also interesting is the answer here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=176571&p=2718017&viewfull=1#post2718017

We salute you! (at least the most of the audience ...)
 
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Here's a suggestion.


It has been said many times that the community os overthinking this. I suspect that everyone is spending too much time concentrating on the UAs themselves. What we should be doing is trying to find out what is creating themm.


We know that the UAs:


a) Look organic and alien,
b) Broadcast a system name
c) Corrode ships that scoop them.


I thnk that's *all* they do. They're probes.


Now that they hae been found free floating in space, I think exploration is gettig closer to the source. Searching again and again in systems where they have been found won't help. What's needed is to search many systems near the pleiades, and just maybe we will find a Thargoid battleship that's busy pumping out UAs (i.e.
probes) towards human space in order to find out what we are up to now.

DocCK
 
Here's a suggestion.


It has been said many times that the community os overthinking this. I suspect that everyone is spending too much time concentrating on the UAs themselves. What we should be doing is trying to find out what is creating themm.


We know that the UAs:


a) Look organic and alien,
b) Broadcast a system name
c) Corrode ships that scoop them.


I thnk that's *all* they do. They're probes.


Now that they hae been found free floating in space, I think exploration is gettig closer to the source. Searching again and again in systems where they have been found won't help. What's needed is to search many systems near the pleiades, and just maybe we will find a Thargoid battleship that's busy pumping out UAs (i.e.
probes) towards human space in order to find out what we are up to now.

DocCK

I like this idea.
 
As usual I will for sure regret my post:

#0 regions lock is tested up to Regor ...
#1 CMDR Kerrash has "moderated" later his own first statement under the DEV update post ;-)
#2 IMHO: same CMDR has stated in the #114 stream he "hope that you will find out things about UA until the next update"
#3 also interesting is the answer here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=176571&p=2718017&viewfull=1#post2718017

We salute you! (at least the most of the audience ...)

I'm not saying I think the UA is a permit substitute, I'm just saying that's a reasonable interpretation of that particular statement. Though I'm not convinced all permit systems within say 1000 Ly of Sol are known. It's very clear that explorers tend to aim for nebulae, if you just wander off in a random direction you very quickly find systems that have never been visited and probably never even looked at in the galaxy map before. Space is big.

Did you happen to catch what Kerrash wrote before he edited it?

I saw that #3 too. That sounds promising. Not only does it mean that they can add things between releases as they see fit, it also (at least potentially) means that they can keep things secret better as the answers won't necessarily be sitting in game files.
 
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MB (From Dev Update) "And of course, I can't talk about story without also mentioning the Unknown Artefacts - the mystery for these is about to get deeper. :)"

Well raise my rent..................Looks like The Canonn wont be going out of business anytime soon then eh? :D


 
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After about 200 hours of Convoy Hunting, and about 24 hours in HR 1185, I am finally the bearer of a bright shiney UA. I didn't look at it, nor record it, I put it in my hold (using a Drone) and exited the game.

I will not be dropping it anywhere in the hope that the sound changes by a semi-tone
I will not be trying to mix it with other ingredients as if I were Mary Berry

I intend to carry it about looking for new behaviours such as new contacts, UA specific SS spawns and other things that rely on existing functionality.
I might retry some of the Permit experiments or take it out to California.
Dark Systems is the only whackadoodle theory I will consider

Suggested places of interest from Galnet and official Elite Lore only please. If you have to use Google, I dont want to know.
 
After about 200 hours of Convoy Hunting, and about 24 hours in HR 1185, I am finally the bearer of a bright shiney UA. I didn't look at it, nor record it, I put it in my hold (using a Drone) and exited the game.

I will not be dropping it anywhere in the hope that the sound changes by a semi-tone
I will not be trying to mix it with other ingredients as if I were Mary Berry

I intend to carry it about looking for new behaviours such as new contacts, UA specific SS spawns and other things that rely on existing functionality.
I might retry some of the Permit experiments or take it out to California.
Dark Systems is the only whackadoodle theory I will consider

Suggested places of interest from Galnet and official Elite Lore only please. If you have to use Google, I dont want to know.

Congratulations Commander 07
 
After about 200 hours of Convoy Hunting, and about 24 hours in HR 1185, I am finally the bearer of a bright shiney UA. I didn't look at it, nor record it, I put it in my hold (using a Drone) and exited the game.

I will not be dropping it anywhere in the hope that the sound changes by a semi-tone
I will not be trying to mix it with other ingredients as if I were Mary Berry

I intend to carry it about looking for new behaviours such as new contacts, UA specific SS spawns and other things that rely on existing functionality.
I might retry some of the Permit experiments or take it out to California.
Dark Systems is the only whackadoodle theory I will consider

Suggested places of interest from Galnet and official Elite Lore only please. If you have to use Google, I dont want to know.

Finally, CMDR Dommarraa! :D
 
After about 200 hours of Convoy Hunting, and about 24 hours in HR 1185, I am finally the bearer of a bright shiney UA. I didn't look at it, nor record it, I put it in my hold (using a Drone) and exited the game.

I will not be dropping it anywhere in the hope that the sound changes by a semi-tone
I will not be trying to mix it with other ingredients as if I were Mary Berry

I intend to carry it about looking for new behaviours such as new contacts, UA specific SS spawns and other things that rely on existing functionality.
I might retry some of the Permit experiments or take it out to California.
Dark Systems is the only whackadoodle theory I will consider

Suggested places of interest from Galnet and official Elite Lore only please. If you have to use Google, I dont want to know.

Congratulations.:cool:
I'm still fond of the misjump theory unless it has been tried (it does not appear in the Wiki unless I've missed it).

I'd like to think that whilst the UA is in the hold it is trying to integrate with the ship's systems and in the process is damaging them. One of the worst damaged is the cargo hatch (I'm assuming) because it is probably the closest. I don't think trying to misjump using other means to degrade systems (like carrying hazardous waste) will help and even if a misjump occurred without the UA it wouldn't tell us anything about a misjump with UA.

I tried for hours trying to find a UA in the Timocani area and gave up after only finding Hafnium conveys as the closest (I'm now a few kylies out exploring).

My plan was to use a field maintenance unit to keep systems healthy apart from the frameshift drive and let the UA probe and integrate with it. I would keep jumping and at some point I hope a misjump will occur.

This should be a non-destructive test (unless you're prepared to let your FSD get to zero when your ship might explode).

There are now more UA's around and I think someone should give it a go. It should not take too long and would at least cross off another possibility.
 
Ah! And to all the CMDRs exploring Halsey's Tour (again), I want to remember that I've already took the whole route something like two weeks ago, and I found two UA Convoys a few jumps away from Furuhjelm I-645. ;)
 
After about 200 hours of Convoy Hunting, and about 24 hours in HR 1185, I am finally the bearer of a bright shiney UA. I didn't look at it, nor record it, I put it in my hold (using a Drone) and exited the game.

I will not be dropping it anywhere in the hope that the sound changes by a semi-tone
I will not be trying to mix it with other ingredients as if I were Mary Berry

I intend to carry it about looking for new behaviours such as new contacts, UA specific SS spawns and other things that rely on existing functionality.
I might retry some of the Permit experiments or take it out to California.
Dark Systems is the only whackadoodle theory I will consider

Suggested places of interest from Galnet and official Elite Lore only please. If you have to use Google, I dont want to know.

Well done. Was it a salvage UA near the blackhole?
 
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