UA Search re: Halsey, Galnet, Federation variables.

[King Sancho]

Fellow Commanders:

The UA search/research is running hot, and on the verge of another breakthrough. Many fine theories exist, which can be followed in another thread. This thread is dedicated to one particular theory, the Starship One disappearance and UA connection. I do hope that by having this theory in a separate thread, we can quickly determine if it is a dead end or not.

Please feel free to share your thoughts, opinions, and findings regarding the thread topic.
Upon further reading, you will find a list of Galnet stories which are directly related to the UA or the Spaceship One disappearance. You will also find an action plan at the end.

Galnet
One assumption I have is that Galnet is the primary way of communication from the Devs to players. Hints, information, and clues are provided via this format. Therefore, it is important to throughly document and analyze Galnet news releases.
I have cataloged what I believe is relevant. Please review and comment.

Aug 28: Elaine Boyd, journalist, named suspect in murder. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/23-AUG-3301

Aug 21: Bodyguard of President found dead. GF to Elaine. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/21-AUG-3301

Aug. 14: Tinfoil hat customer claims aliens kidnapped president. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/14-AUG-3301

Aug. 11: Two dead in space shuttle accident. Arnold Lowe dead, lead investigator in Spaceship One disappearance. Elaine Boyd asks questions. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/11-AUG-3301

Aug. 4: Five die in shuttle accident. Sean Richards is dead, a lead investigator of Starship One. Elaine Boyd is suspicious. Sirius Corporation gives prepared statement. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/04-AUG-3301

Aug. 2: Remember the Anatares Inicident story. Starkly similar to Spaceship One incident. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/02-AUG-3301


Jul. 24: Sirius Corp history. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/24-JUL-3301

Jul. 10: Morse Code confirmed in UA sound analysis. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/10-JUL-3301


Jun. 14: Open Case, Knights of Black. Claim of alien threat & Fed coverup. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/14-JUN-3301

Jun. 2: Official report of Starship One loss. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/02-JUN-3301


May 30: FTSA suspect engine failure as cause for accident. Link Anatares Highliner incident. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/30-MAY-3301

May 28: Truth is out There report. Claim of cover up, and connects UA to incident. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/28-MAY-3301

May 27: Fed search with Sirius and Core Dynamics. Eye witness reports given. Request for pilot aid to report at Leoniceno Orbital. Possible CG or mission? https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/27-MAY-3301

May 26: Ship goes bye bye. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/26-JUN-3301



Action Plan:

1. Please confirm if there are any more related stories. Also please confirm that the stories above are DEV content, and not player content. Overall, I find the dev content to have more legitimacy.
2. Catalog and review all Galnet articles prior to May 26. Highlight the Dr. Arcanonn reports.
3. Fly to Leoniceno Orbital, in Azaleach. Report back the missions on the bulletin board. Myself, I went there and found only 1 mission, which was to recover some Ancient Artifacts. Not a big deal.. the only interesting aspect was that the mission was from the Federal Intelligence. The system I went to was Yum Kaka (lol) and I came across a T9 escorted by 2 Anacondas. Probably normal I assume? Is it possible that your Fed rating is a factor?
4. Anyone have more info on Elaine Boyd or Dr. Arcanonn?
5. Sap Core 8 Containers. Magic in a can? Do we have anymore info on them?


I am curious to see what you guys think. I personally think with all the Galnet reports and links to Halsey and the UA, that this is the most logical avenue. One last thought, notice the time line of Galnet releases, that there is a lull in stories Aug. 2 - June 2., then a sudden surge of reports. My feelings are that the Devs are trying to nudge us in the right direction, realizing that we need further assistance. This is backed up by the statements they made in the of their surprise we haven't figured it out yet.


Fly fast and shoot straight Commanders.

Best Regards,

Cmndr Sanchodeltoro

 

[knowles2]

Dr. Arcanonn is a player created character that been use in player submitted stories to Galnet about the UA.

 

[King Sancho]

I figure the character is player submitted, but is the character used by devs in an official capacity?

 

[Jezzah]

He is very much real and very much used (and abused). He'll be upset someone is trying to undermine his efforts at longest thread ever.

 

[King Sancho]

lol. That thread is a clearinghouse for UA research, but has too much jibberjabbery for it to be efficient. In any case, this thread is focused on finding clues in Galnet, and the Spaceship One mystery. I think the wikia entires regarding this theory is premature and inconclusive.

 

[jojon]

Wow, if anything ever looked like a coverup operation...

I wonder whether one, by necessity, suddenly very focused independent investigator may need discreet taxi services here and there. :7
EDIT: ...I guess they found her first.

 

[IronGremlin]

I think the link is pretty tenuous.

There is definitely a mystery to be solved with the assassination, erm, accidental death of the former president, but I don't think the connection to the UA is very well established.

 

[King Sancho]

I think the link is pretty tenuous.

There is definitely a mystery to be solved with the assassination, erm, accidental death of the former president, but I don't think the connection to the UA is very well established.

That certainly can be true, but I am suspicious as to why articles keep cropping up linking the UA to Halsey. Albeit, the links are by crazy kooks, but there has to be a reason why the dev writers keep eluding to it.

The suspicious deaths of the lead investigators for Starship One do hint at a cover up... but the question is to what kind of cover up?

If we are to assume it was an assassination, a few questions linger.

1. Why did the ship take a detour to Azaleach?
2. Why are there similarities to the Spaceship One disappearance and the Antares Highliner incident?
3. Why was Hudson, who ultimately benefited from the supposed assassination, publicly state it looks like sabotage? Only to change his tune once he moves into power? I would suppose if he was involved, he wouldn't of speculated sabotage.

4. As I stated earlier, why do the writers keep eluding to a Halsey - UA link?

It does stink of cover up.. but what is being covered up?

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

That certainly can be true, but I am suspicious as to why articles keep cropping up linking the UA to Halsey. Albeit, the links are by crazy kooks, but there has to be a reason why the dev writers keep eluding to it.

The suspicious deaths of the lead investigators for Starship One do hint at a cover up... but the question is to what kind of cover up?

If we are to assume it was an assassination, a few questions linger.

1. Why did the ship take a detour to Azaleach?
2. Why are there similarities to the Spaceship One disappearance and the Antares Highliner incident?
3. Why was Hudson, who ultimately benefited from the supposed assassination, publicly state it looks like sabotage? Only to change his tune once he moves into power? I would suppose if he was involved, he wouldn't of speculated sabotage.

4. As I stated earlier, why do the writers keep eluding to a Halsey - UA link?

It does stink of cover up.. but what is being covered up?

Well, only yesterday, Elaine Boyd, a Federal Times Reporter was found dead in a low rent apartment. She was under suspicion in the murder of her lover "Agent Susan Monroe". So, what's a Federation Agent doing do close to a News Reporter and one specifically tied to these accidents?
They say she killed herself out of grief but y'know, Human's can be quite sneaky.
Wouldn't be the first time Agent's have been planted to find out just how much information someone knew and if they knew too much, maybe had orders to eliminate them. But, maybe the Agent failed and it cost her life. Seems someone else tidied up though, no loose ends.

What ties her to all this is she was the reporter who ran the article on the Engineers shuttle accident.
Seems all those with any connection to the disappearance of Starship One are being silenced so that makes me think it may well be one of the main keys.

As for your direct questions:
1. I have no idea, I don't even think it was planned. Maybe the Engineers were silenced because they knew it shouldn't have happened unless tampered with. Not enough info really. It does seem the most stand out thing that happened on the trip (beyond the disappearance) though and something that should be looked at. Maybe the redirection to that system was the only way make the disappearance happen. So, regards the UA thing, that would be high on my list of places to look at but back on topic.

2. The main connection seem to the Engineer Sean Richards, now deceased (he worked on both projects, died in the Shuttle Accident). If his death was no accident, it would suggest there would be something he was aware of which may have given reason for him to be silenced, permanently.

3. Hudson's actions could be merely attributed to Political gamesmanship. Knowing that Winters was next in line, anyone seeking Power may be tempted to smear their rivals character to their own advantage. This may explain why he changed his tune once he was President.
However, Hudson is a very funny fish. For someone who talks a good game, I have only seen him being weak while the Federation, from being one of the most successful Powers is now lagging behind the others. He hasn't done anything that instills any belief that he is the best person for the job.
Am I the only one who thinks he merely be a Puppet to some yet unseen force?
Can't say for sure but he sure smells funny.

4. Probably Witchspace. It's where the Thargoids used to roam and proved very problematic indeed. What happened to SS1 would appear very much the same as what happened in the past. Those that go to Witchspace rarely would ever come back. Only the best pilot's would survive. SS1 would not have been expecting such a thing and been totally unprepared yet this is all merely conjecture. There are far to many variables and more importantly, all those connected and who might be able to answer questions, had any knowledge or insight or were in the process of investigating the incident are slowly but surely being terminated.

As a casual observer, I'd also like to add that what happens in the Federation is also happening in the Empire.
Both have had their Leaders removed and those in any way connected to these deaths are getting silenced.
It's quite possible we are dealing with one, yet unseen but kinda murderous entity who's basic agenda seems to be the destabilization of existing Power structures, promoting infighting between Human's everywhere.

 

[Arcanonn]

He is very much real and very much used (and abused). He'll be upset someone is trying to undermine his efforts at longest thread ever.

Thanks Jez But I think that ones in the bag.....although I don't think you have added even one post to the pile *sniffles*

 

[tiger61378]

I've been thinking with all of this discussion...is it Thargoids, or is it something else going on? For the longest time I thought the UA was definitely Thargoid...now, I'm not so sure. Maybe there's another race that's about to pop up in the Elite universe that we don't know about, that's attempting to destabilize Human space in preparation for revealing itself. Or it could be Thargoids doing the same thing...although they've said that first contact with the Thargoids will determine our fate with them. Hmm...maybe all of this is to make us THINK that the Thargoids are trying to manipulate and destabilize Human space, but it will then lead to another race attacking, and if someone makes first contact properly the Thargoids will come to ally themselves with us (or will create a war on multiple fronts, as Human organizations attack each other, Thargoids attack indiscriminately, and the other race starts taking systems one by one.

God...conspiracy theories...get out the tinfoil hats boys, we're going deeper! LOL

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

"Myself, I went there and found only 1 mission, which was to recover some Ancient Artifacts"...
One mission on a Bulletin board?
Does that not seem strange to you?

 

[King Sancho]

As a casual observer, I'd also like to add that what happens in the Federation is also happening in the Empire.
Both have had their Leaders removed and those in any way connected to these deaths are getting silenced.
It's quite possible we are dealing with one, yet unseen but kinda murderous entity who's basic agenda seems to be the destabilization of existing Power structures, promoting infighting between Human's everywhere.

I was thinking that as well, that the conspiracy is within. It is very suspicious that there is a destabilization effort towards both powers... could the Alliance be behind this? To add some extra foil to the hat.. doesn't the Alliance have ties to the Thargoids? Last thought, if the Alliance is involved.. better believe the Sirius corporation is too, IMO.

Are there any Galnet reports that can corroborate that thought?

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The only hangup I tend to get of a sole human conspiracy is when I try to put myself in the dev writer's shoes. There have been several hints towards a UA and SS1 disappearance from the beginning. If there wasn't a link, then those articles are either a wasted effort, or a misleading effort. I find it easier to believe that the dev writer is purposely hinting at that connection, especially since they claimed a surprise that we haven't found it - yet it is right in our face. Take a look at the time line of articles, there was a lull, but all of a sudden a surge of activity happens. Is this an effort to nudge us in the right direction?

"Myself, I went there and found only 1 mission, which was to recover some Ancient Artifacts"...
One mission on a Bulletin board?
Does that not seem strange to you?

I did find it somewhat weird, but the most interesting part was in the mission write up, it was work for the Federal Intel, yet the mission belonged to a local group. I received a promotion afterwards. I won't go too deep in speculation, but I wonder if Federal rank plays a part in the UA search. I wonder if CG's and BB missions are the trail of crumbs to follow. Once I completed the mission, the BB was like any other BB.

I've been thinking with all of this discussion...is it Thargoids, or is it something else going on? For the longest time I thought the UA was definitely Thargoid...now, I'm not so sure. Maybe there's another race that's about to pop up in the Elite universe that we don't know about, that's attempting to destabilize Human space in preparation for revealing itself. Or it could be Thargoids doing the same thing...although they've said that first contact with the Thargoids will determine our fate with them. Hmm...maybe all of this is to make us THINK that the Thargoids are trying to manipulate and destabilize Human space, but it will then lead to another race attacking, and if someone makes first contact properly the Thargoids will come to ally themselves with us (or will create a war on multiple fronts, as Human organizations attack each other, Thargoids attack indiscriminately, and the other race starts taking systems one by one.


God...conspiracy theories...get out the tinfoil hats boys, we're going deeper! LOL

Good point, somewhat similar to what Banana said. I wonder if going to the systems of the "accidents", if the BB has any unique missions.

What do you guys think of a MB response to one of my posts in the main UA thread.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&page=110&p=2722074&viewfull=1#post2722074

I made that post to refute the idea that the Halsey connection is dead, and that CGs are integral to the overall hunt. What was MBs goal with his reply?

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

I was thinking that as well, that the conspiracy is within. It is very suspicious that there is a destabilization effort towards both powers... could the Alliance be behind this?

Well, it could be mentioned they are doing a lot better these days in PP but I'm not so sure it's related.
I would think that there's likely a relationship between SS1's disappearance and the UA.
And yea, timing was interesting so I'm not against what you're saying.

As for others:
If you treated the mission like any other mission, you were probably always gonna get the same reward, just like cashing in a UA at the nearest station. However, I've played for over 1'000 hours and can't remember every going to a system where I only had one mission. It's either the location or the item, maybe even both and it's very interesting.
I'm only a loo tenant apparently....dunno how much use I can really be if rank related. I should also mention that UA's are found in "Federal" Convoys though which makes it Federation related in a big way, ties a lot of stuff together. I don't know if that changed, I read a bit of the main thread which I think suggested they were now being found just floating around but what to believe...
If the BB reverted back to normal after completion then that seems not so much a bug but a hint.
Ancient Artifacts might be something to play with...

Best I've got atm.
Do you have a UA?

 

[Crash1099]

I think it is time we search for her again. Where was the old community goal at?

 

[Jimmymick]

So I am kind of loathe to do this, since I am an Alliance pilot affiliated with Prime Minister Mahon, but there definitely seems to be a connection between Halsey heading to Azaleach and Edmund Mahon.

When the new look Galnet came online a few days after Halsey's disappearance, an article that had not been released previously was available, dated May 25th. This article does not exist on the Galnet website records but is on your commander's personal Galnet. I have some screen caps of it here and I've reproduced the article below, with the pictures to confirm it. The emphasis I have added to show the section I believe to be relevant to this discussion.

"President's Visit to 78 Ursae Majoris Disappointing
25th May 3301

After what many residents have called 'years of neglect from Sol', President Halsey made a brief appearance aboard Seddon Gateway yesterday. Thousands gathered to welcome the President as she was ferried over from Spaceflight One. Sadly, upon arrival the President was whisked off to the bridge to meet with local dignitaries, leaving most residents to return home disappointed.

GalNet sources aboard Seddon Gateway report that the President spent much of the day receiving visitors in the Captain's Cabin. Most, but not all, of the President's visitors were members of Federal organisations which still operate in and around 78 Ursae Majoris. Those questioned indicated that during their meeting, the President mostly spoke about ways in which the Federation could help better support small and medium sized business interests in the area.

In the evening, Seddon Gateway played host to a diplomatic dinner between President Halsey and Prime Minister Edmund Mahon. The Prime Minister arrived at Seddon Gateway without fanfare at some point in the early evening. After Mahon's arrival, the two faction leaders are reported to have spent several quiet hours enjoying dinner away from the vast majority of their entourages. What the two leaders discussed during their time together remains a mystery.

Spaceflight One safely departed 78 Ursae Majoris this morning, and will now be travelling to Saga in order to continue the President's tour of Federal frontier systems."

If you are looking for a reason why she diverted to Azaleach, I think whatever Mahon said to her is probably a good place to start.

 

[King Sancho]

Well, it could be mentioned they are doing a lot better these days in PP but I'm not so sure it's related.
I would think that there's likely a relationship between SS1's disappearance and the UA.
And yea, timing was interesting so I'm not against what you're saying.

As for others:
If you treated the mission like any other mission, you were probably always gonna get the same reward, just like cashing in a UA at the nearest station. However, I've played for over 1'000 hours and can't remember every going to a system where I only had one mission. It's either the location or the item, maybe even both and it's very interesting.
I'm only a loo tenant apparently....dunno how much use I can really be if rank related. I should also mention that UA's are found in "Federal" Convoys though which makes it Federation related in a big way, ties a lot of stuff together. I don't know if that changed, I read a bit of the main thread which I think suggested they were now being found just floating around but what to believe...
If the BB reverted back to normal after completion then that seems not so much a bug but a hint.
Ancient Artifacts might be something to play with...

Best I've got atm.
Do you have a UA?

I had a UA back when it was first discovered, but that UA was a clone bug. I later sold it. If you want help finding one, let me know, I'll wing up with you.

Regarding the BB mission.. I was promoted to Cadet afterwards, so your LT rank may be useful in determining if the search is rank related. I wonder if there are additional missions in relevant systems, maybe systems where the accidental deaths of the lead investigators occurred? One article stated that the Inspector was there on business to discuss his findings.. maybe we should check out the Laprhia Shipyard in the Artemis system. Anything unique in the BB, Contacts, or USS?


https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/11-AUG-3301


If I can get on later tonight, I'll give it a shot if no one has done it yet.

 

[King Sancho]

So I am kind of loathe to do this, since I am an Alliance pilot affiliated with Prime Minister Mahon, but there definitely seems to be a connection between Halsey heading to Azaleach and Edmund Mahon.

When the new look Galnet came online a few days after Halsey's disappearance, an article that had not been released previously was available, dated May 25th. This article does not exist on the Galnet website records but is on your commander's personal Galnet. I have some screen caps of it here and I've reproduced the article below, with the pictures to confirm it. The emphasis I have added to show the section I believe to be relevant to this discussion.

"President's Visit to 78 Ursae Majoris Disappointing
25th May 3301

After what many residents have called 'years of neglect from Sol', President Halsey made a brief appearance aboard Seddon Gateway yesterday. Thousands gathered to welcome the President as she was ferried over from Spaceflight One. Sadly, upon arrival the President was whisked off to the bridge to meet with local dignitaries, leaving most residents to return home disappointed.

GalNet sources aboard Seddon Gateway report that the President spent much of the day receiving visitors in the Captain's Cabin. Most, but not all, of the President's visitors were members of Federal organisations which still operate in and around 78 Ursae Majoris. Those questioned indicated that during their meeting, the President mostly spoke about ways in which the Federation could help better support small and medium sized business interests in the area.

In the evening, Seddon Gateway played host to a diplomatic dinner between President Halsey and Prime Minister Edmund Mahon. The Prime Minister arrived at Seddon Gateway without fanfare at some point in the early evening. After Mahon's arrival, the two faction leaders are reported to have spent several quiet hours enjoying dinner away from the vast majority of their entourages. What the two leaders discussed during their time together remains a mystery.

Spaceflight One safely departed 78 Ursae Majoris this morning, and will now be travelling to Saga in order to continue the President's tour of Federal frontier systems."

If you are looking for a reason why she diverted to Azaleach, I think whatever Mahon said to her is probably a good place to start.

Good input Jimmy.

Since your the resident Alliance Cmndr, would you like to focus and research on any Alliance/Sirius Corp connections?

One of the more recent articles on glanet regarding SS1 was a backstory on the Antares Highliner incident, and how it was similar to the SS1 incident. To me, that is a nice hint which further stokes the fire, but also confuses me even more LOL.

- - - Updated - - -

I think it is time we search for her again. Where was the old community goal at?

The supposed CG where pilots were to help search for the President was in Azaleach, Leoniceno Orbital. I ASSUME there was a CG, can anyone confirm there actually was one?

https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/11-AUG-3301

 

[Jimmymick]

Already looked into a connection between Sirius and the Alliance. Apart from a few guys on reddit, doesn't seem to be one.

Yes there was a CG to search for Halsey. It reached all but the final tier.

 

[dynamicbob]

How about selling a UA in sirius star system ? Has this been attempted