Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

Do you want a Open PvE

  • Yes, I want a Open PvE

    Votes: 54 51.4%
  • No, I don't want a Open PvE

    Votes: 49 46.7%
  • I want only Open PvE and PvP only in groups

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
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Over 100 LY away and from what I heard a T-7 won't fit.. it is too big.


*Sarcastic*

I thought Solo and Private was cheating and not dangerous at all


*Whistles*

If you're a limpet master you could there in something smaller and collect stuff to deliver - anyway - worth a try!

A transparent attempt to recruit more peeps to the cause on the last day!

:D
 
To me, Solo/Private vs Open biggest issue is Powerplay.

Merit grinders are especially detrimental, causing very large powers like ALD to become practically insurmountable. (ie. Opposing any new ALD expansion) and cause smaller powers pick up and unable to lose bad systems. (ie. Asling and Panganau)

To at least bypass this problem I think Powerplay should be limited in solo/private by allowing you to still gain merits for completing Powerplay tasks, but solo players cannot in any way influence powerplay results. (merits earned do not contribute to fortification, undermining, expansion, ect.)

To me this seems like a fair trade off.


So.. a PVE function.. should be limited in PVE and fully available in PVP? Is this what your saying?
 
To at least bypass this problem I think Powerplay should be limited in solo/private by allowing you to still gain merits for completing Powerplay tasks, but solo players cannot in any way influence powerplay results. (merits earned do not contribute to fortification, undermining, expansion, ect.)

To me this seems like a fair trade off.

Is limited to PC Open or XB1 Open? How about PS4 Open if and when that appears? What about all the Open players in different timezones to you, on geographically dispersed internet connections that will never be matched with yours, ever? How about all the Open players that don't happen to end up in your specific instance? I'm guessing by "fair trade off" you actually mean "what I want"?
 
So.. a PVE function.. should be limited in PVE and fully available in PVP? Is this what your saying?

Let's be real. Powerplay is PvE in name only. People only participate in PP in solo to get merits without opposition from other factions. For those looking for more from PP and to better influence PP, they go to open.

Yeah sure, ED overall has PvE in mind, but PP is too intricate and dependent on the actions of each individual to be influenced by both solo and open. It needs to be one or the other. Player driven or dev driven.

Nothing is really lost to those who prefer solo and a whole lot to be gained for those who play in open.
 

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Let's be real. Powerplay is PvE in name only. People only participate in PP in solo to get merits without opposition from other factions. For those looking for more from PP and to better influence PP, they go to open.

Yeah sure, ED overall has PvE in mind, but PP is too intricate and dependent on the actions of each individual to be influenced by both solo and open. It needs to be one or the other. Player driven or dev driven.

Nothing is really lost to those who prefer solo and a whole lot to be gained for those who play in open.

Powerplay "is" - and its implementation allows all players to affect it, equally - as Frontier said that they would.

In what way is Powerplay "too intricate and dependent on the actions of each individual to be influenced by both solo and open"? All players affect it equally, just as they do the single shared galaxy state.

It does not "need" to be affected by one or the other of Solo and Open (plus, don't forget Private Groups and other all of the game modes on other platforms) - you suggest that is should be limited in this way to suit your opinion.

How do you arrive at the assumption that "Nothing is really lost to those who prefer solo and a whole lot to be gained for those who play in open."?
 
Is limited to PC Open or XB1 Open? How about PS4 Open if and when that appears? What about all the Open players in different timezones to you, on geographically dispersed internet connections that will never be matched with yours, ever? How about all the Open players that don't happen to end up in your specific instance? I'm guessing by "fair trade off" you actually mean "what I want"?

And what do you want?

Mind you, this is just my opinion and it is what I'd like to see in general based off of what I have personally observed during my time in PP.

I brought up this idea so it could be discussed. I wasn't saying my way or the highway, I'm not making any sort of demand of anyone so think about that before you try to say what I mean.

So if we can keep this civil, I'd like to hear you opinion on the matter and/or your opinion of my opinion, if you care about discussing it.
 
And what do you want?

I want people to play the game however they want to play it, not having how they play dictated to by others. It's quite simple really, no? You appear to want to penalise players who don't want to play the same way as you and sorry, but you don't have that right. I understand that you are bringing up the idea for discussion however, this has been discussed at length for over two and a half years, with no indication from FD that they wish to change things.
 
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And what do you want?

Mind you, this is just my opinion and it is what I'd like to see in general based off of what I have personally observed during my time in PP.

I brought up this idea so it could be discussed. I wasn't saying my way or the highway, I'm not making any sort of demand of anyone so think about that before you try to say what I mean.

So if we can keep this civil, I'd like to hear you opinion on the matter and/or your opinion of my opinion, if you care about discussing it.

From my experience in Powerplay, hitting the triggers and targets for your power is how you get things done and all that really matters.
No-one seems too bothered about which mode you use to do it, or how little or much time and points you put in.

Question for the "regulars" of this thread: is it always like this? I've only been posting in here for a few days, but it's the same done-to-death points going round and round!
 
And what do you want?

Mind you, this is just my opinion and it is what I'd like to see in general based off of what I have personally observed during my time in PP.

I brought up this idea so it could be discussed. I wasn't saying my way or the highway, I'm not making any sort of demand of anyone so think about that before you try to say what I mean.

So if we can keep this civil, I'd like to hear you opinion on the matter and/or your opinion of my opinion, if you care about discussing it.

I think the problem that has come up in this thread many times before Virgil is that some Powerplay advocates are suggesting changes be made that would affect the entire game to fix an issue that some have with Powerplay.

An awful lot of people have no interest in Powerplay - I'd bet a lot of real money it's far more than do play Powerplay - and therefore don't want their game affected by a perceived problem in a part of the game they don't use.

ETA - if there is a problem with Powerplay then fix Powerplay - make it fit the game not the around way around.
 
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Mind you, this is just my opinion and it is what I'd like to see in general based off of what I have personally observed during my time in PP.

I brought up this idea so it could be discussed. I wasn't saying my way or the highway, I'm not making any sort of demand of anyone so think about that before you try to say what I mean.
Fair enough. But when you say things like: "PP is too intricate and dependent on the actions of each individual to be influenced by both solo and open", I would like to see the reasoning used.

Why would you think that the intricacy and dependency on the actions of each individual means they cannot be influence by both open and solo. I fail to see a causal connection.
 
"but solo players cannot in any way influence powerplay results. (merits earned do not contribute to fortification, undermining, expansion, ect.)"

That brings me back to one of my original points that players only looking to earn merits for rating, faction rewards, and other faction related bonuses participate in PP in solo/private so as to grind unhindered which directly affects power standings which affects all players belonging to the same power and other powers.
 
That brings me back to one of my original points that players only looking to earn merits for rating, faction rewards, and other faction related bonuses participate in PP in solo/private so as to grind unhindered which directly affects power standings which affects all players belonging to the same power and other powers.
So what makes you think that players in solo are only looking to earn merits for rating, faction rewards, and other faction related bonuses?
 
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