missles and mines use to be ballanced they just needed to fix the dmg on shields and make the dumfire fire at the rate they do now....
Class 4 weapons
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missles and mines use to be ballanced they just needed to fix the dmg on shields and make the dumfire fire at the rate they do now....
we could add in a small bonus of class 4 weapons pushing a ship.... i would support a pimp gun that could cause ships to spin uncontrollably but does little hull/shield dmg
wow does a cannon really have a velocity of 371 meters per second,thats a joke right,ED is having a joke with us right.That velocity is about the as a cannon ball on a 17thC pirate ship,Lets have it at about 2000m per second,HV guns already reach 1700 m/s.So at 500m time of flight would be .25 seconds
Should we aslo have snail laser beams then XD ?
I would rather see cannons be balanced via dispersion or damage penalty vs small ships and light armor (over penetration),
so that cannons are good to take down armored big game, but not good vs small and light targets.
When balance goes against immersion by breaking your suspension of disbelief, you have an unbelivable balanced game.
And that is terrible.
I would rather see cannons be balanced via dispersion or damage penalty vs small ships and light armor (over penetration),
so that cannons are good to take down armored big game, but not good vs small and light targets.
When balance goes against immersion by breaking your suspension of disbelief, you have an unbelivable balanced game.
And that is terrible.
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So it's better when the best choice for a huge hardpoint is a large laser because for balance reason we can only have highly situational weapons that don't even work on sluggish ships in huge sizes?
the best choice for using this hardpoint for fighting small, nimble tagets, YES
but the huge hardpoint was never meant to be used this way....the huge HP is meant to fight slow, big targets. both weapons available in this size suggest this!
a class 4 beam or rail, or even a cannon with real life velocities would be total OP against smaller ships. imagine a FDL with a C4 Beam.....yeah......that would be really fun...but only for the FDL pilot ;-)
i think this is the reasoning behind this....
So balance it by other means.
-Increased heat
-Increased mass
-Longer reload time
-Slower firing time
-Reduced ship maneuverability (Ammunition and weapon weights A LOT)
-More expensive ammunition
-Smaller magazine size (Perhaps even work like a naval gun, need to reload each shot)
-Reduced armour piercing ability (Good vs hull, low chance to hit internals)
-Reduced efficiency against shields
Real life velocity if looking at WW2 for SLOW artillery was 700-900 meters per second, we have about HALF that and it really looks BAD when I can lazily dodge a giant cannon shot and lazily follow its trajectory.
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And when even sluggish ships literally DANCE around the huge rounds?
Slow is one thing, snailpace is another.
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I would give smaller ships the same chance as larger ships.
-Reduce accuracy of gimbals and turrets trying to hit and track ships smaller than themselves.
OR
-Increase Gimbal and Turret weapon spread against ships smaller than itself.
Larger ships resists damage better against smaller ships.
Smaller ships avoid hits against larger gimbals and turrets.
Was the problem with beta fast cannon mainly on gimbals?
I think maybe fixed projectile weapons (which get less 'aim time' as the ship is less manoeuvrable than a gimbal or turret) would be first in line for a velocity buff, seeing as you have to lead your target and line your whole ship up to do so.
I think maybe fixed projectile weapons (which get less 'aim time' as the ship is less manoeuvrable than a gimbal or turret) would be first in line for a velocity buff, seeing as you have to lead your target and line your whole ship up to do so.
One could even find a reliable reason for it too.
Fixed weapons are more stable and can withstand the stress of firing a more powerfully loaded shell.
Gimbals and turrets could ahve slower speeds due to them risk being damaged by the stress of firing a similary loaded shell.
i concider asp, python and anaconda as big targets. its not hard to hit them with the c4 canon or PA. even if piloted by players......
but i would not deny more big ships to blow up, if they would implement them......sure
if you miss above mentioned ships with your cannon and PA, then you do something wrong
Finally, someone who understands that there is more than one way to skin a cat.
As for the velocities... I'd love to see something like this... c4 750 m/s, c3 900 ms, c2 1050 m/s, c1 1200 m/s. Also, while we're on the topic of cannons, a remodel of the c1 and c3 to look more like the c2 and c4 would be nice. I'm not such a big fan of the tonka toy snub nose art design that makes up half of the lineup personally.
If I have to LEAD my target when it's an Anaconda within 500 meters and it manages to DODGE because it took the bullet nearly 2 seconds to get there then something is wrong and it's not my aim.
Might be something wrong on GIMBALS aim though.
Have you ever used the Class 4 cannon? I had one on the FdL and was afraid to boost after firing in fear of hitting myself.
Come on its just preactice. know your ship.
i have no problems using class 4 weapons. indeed i like more que cannon. the PA its to expencive for me right now.
i have no problems using class 4 weapons. indeed i like more que cannon. the PA its to expencive for me right now.
I kill condas daily with the c4, I don't understand why you are shooting at them when they are at high speed. A conda will come to a halt to turn around, get point blank and murder it at that point,
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