Scale model of the solar system and FSD

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RMORTI said:
"not any bigger than that, you can put your thumb up and block the Earth!" 24 people...... 24! have left the embrace of Gaia out of everyone who has ever lived (as far as we know). It's the only place we know of where we can live as a species. And yet we are surely killing her and fighting wars on her and destroying the diversity of life that once thrived upon her. I often wonder about Reagan's speech concerning this subject. Was it sheer fantasy, a simple prayer for peace, or was it more? Whatever it was, our species continues to pollute and harm the Earth at a horrific rate. Creatures, which we depend upon for survival are dying off in entire species. The world has suffered multiple eradication events and eventually bounced back with new life. What species will evolve here after we have ruined everything and perished?
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Humanity's elite (no, not that elite...) is not thinking straight. When you hear a "green" restaurant owner say she prefers to cook "natural fish that has been caught" instead of fish that has been bred by human for this purpose...

All my mind was doing at that precise moment was to silently scream "YOU PREFER TO HUNT FISH TO EXTINCTION INSTEAD OF USING A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE YOU STUPID #%$@!!!"

I know fish farming is also source of problem, but problem are meant to be solved... And idiots like this chef are part of the problem while claiming they are part of the solution...
 

LeetNoob

LeetNoob
Fantastic video. + rep. And we’re not even a big solar system. Try doing that with Alpha Centauri. It really is interesting to see how something that size can hold something so far away in orbit. That’s the power of gravity people. And it’s the weakest of the four fundamental forces!

I know I posted these before, but for those that missed it, have some moar scale!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNDao7m41M
 
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Bran Tse Mallory

Bran Tse Mallory
LeetNoob said:
I know I posted these before, but for those that missed it, have some moar scale!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q
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Old video but a good one that has now been rendered obsolete as VY Canis Majoris is no longer the biggest star in our backyard, infact there are several that are accepted as being larger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_known_stars

Plus we also have found a second generation star which is almost as old as the universe itself, right here in our tiny little corner of space. I just wish these were in the game :(
 
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RMORTI

RMORTI
The single largest expenditure of capital and resources on the Earth is dedicated to the death of other Earthlings! Simple... as ... that! Your X, I'm Y, I like Z you hate W. We spent over 1 Trillion dollars last year on weapons! Think about that, a Trillion dollars....stuns the mind! Think of everything we could do with that amount of money (from your taxes!) to make the world better. Companies have so much money and influence now, that they can literally alter government policy and news to support their agendas. This can't continue, if it does we face extinction.
 

LeetNoob

LeetNoob
Bran Tse Mallory said:
Old video but a good one that has now been rendered obsolete as VY Canis Majoris is no longer the biggest star in our backyard, infact there are several that are accepted as being larger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_known_stars

Plus we also have found a second generation star which is almost as old as the universe itself, right here in our tiny little corner of space. I just wish these were in the game :(
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Wow, stars are huge, but really small compared to the space between them. And light is sloooowwwww. Loving this thread.
 

Mark Allen

Programmer- Elite: Dangerous
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Try spending a fair chunk of time every day working with these scales and trying to make them work in game (supercruise issues often fall in my bag) - my brain gets worn out with repeated "Holy nuts that's big" moments!

One of my favourite scale mind-blows actually comes from XKCD. Compare the following two situations:
1) You're standing on earth and the sun goes supernova (if it could)
2) A modern nuclear bomb explodes pressed against your eyeball.
Which one delivers more light to your eye?
Answer: The supernova, by NINE orders of magnitude. :s
 

who?

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To me, this game actually helps get a feeling for the scale of the universe.

I think of travelling at 30Km/s (minimum speed in supercruise) and how blazingly fast that actually is. But that's insignificant in comparison to the supercruise speeds you can reach. But even flat-out in supercruise it can take up to 30/40 minutes to reach somewhere like Hutton Orbital in the same system. And that distance is tiny in comparison to the 30-40Ly jumps we can make in a few seconds in hypercruise (or whatever it's called), where you could be travelling perhaps 4 or 5 Ly per second. And even at that speed, it takes almost an entire day to cross the entire Galaxy. And that's just one Galaxy of billions...

When the game adds planetary landings, and then (hopefully!) the ability to roam on foot, it'll be pretty astonishing. I can't think of any similar project that has or is attempting to create a realistic(ish) model of the Galaxy right down to personal level. To me, that'll provide a greater sense of scale than any number-of-football-fields or swimming-pool or if-you-started-walking comparions.

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Mark Allen said:
One of my favourite scale mind-blows actually comes from XKCD. Compare the following two situations:
1) You're standing on earth and the sun goes supernova (if it could)
2) A modern nuclear bomb explodes pressed against your eyeball.
Which one delivers more light to your eye?
Answer: The supernova, by NINE orders of magnitude. :s
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I think I saw this on Mythbusters.... ;)
 

aws357

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who? said:
To me, this game actually helps get a feeling for the scale of the universe.

I think of travelling at 30Km/s (minimum speed in supercruise) and how blazingly fast that actually is. But that's insignificant in comparison to the supercruise speeds you can reach. But even flat-out in supercruise it can take up to 30/40 minutes to reach somewhere like Hutton Orbital in the same system. And that distance is tiny in comparison to the 30-40Ly jumps we can make in a few seconds in hypercruise (or whatever it's called), where you could be travelling perhaps 4 or 5 Ly per second. And even at that speed, it takes almost an entire day to cross the entire Galaxy. And that's just one Galaxy of billions...

When the game adds planetary landings, and then (hopefully!) the ability to roam on foot, it'll be pretty astonishing. I can't think of any similar project that has or is attempting to create a realistic(ish) model of the Galaxy right down to personal level. To me, that'll provide a greater sense of scale than any number-of-football-fields or swimming-pool or if-you-started-walking comparions.
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We will be in the same corny situation where it is actually shorter to fly from Paris to Barcelona than it is to take the taxi to go from downtown to the airport in the first place...

Landing on a flat region of a planet and plodding for hours to reach a mountainous outpost. But it only take seconds to jump to the planet from Sol... :)
 
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Ollie

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That vidio is a really, really good way of giving meaning to distances that the human mind has no experience of, kudos to em.
 

Gray Lensman

Gray Lensman
Agony_Aunt said:
The scale of the universe is truly mindboggling.

As a side thought, wouldn't it be cool if we could force all Celebrities and Politicians into a Total Perspective Vortex. I think the world would be a much nicer place after that.
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They'd only become even more aware of how insignificant their electorate is ... :rolleyes:
 

Winterwalker

Winterwalker
THIS ...

LuckyLuke said:
I use Elite dangerous to teach my daughter about the universe :)
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is EXACTLY why I got involved in kickstart for ED. Because I remember Frontier Elite 2, also being to scale.

It's easy to forget sometimes, only because hyperspace arrival point varies with star radius, but survey exploring is a true joy for me, checking statistics in explored system maps and returning with "samples" .. as well as patrolling deep anarchy space for pesky USS NPC types of course :D

Amazing.

VY_CMa_Sun_comparison.jpg

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