Build a Station inside Nebula - Potential CG - Frontier asking for info...

[Jesters09]

For personal exploration reasons, I'd prefer it to be located on the way to Sag A, but for pure beauty, it should be at Barnard's Loop. I've visited the Loop a couple of times and it was breathtaking.

Unless There are more worthy candidates?

I'd add ship repair to the facilities too.

 

[Phil^]

My thoughts on this:

Initial CG for exploration data to determine the location within the nebula / choose between multiple nebulae - perhaps requiring complete L3 scans of the systems?
Type of station determined by CG tiers reached during a 'materials collection' CG phase - lowest being an outpost-type station and highest tier being orbis type and a string of extraction/refining outposts for refuelling at semi-regular intervals enroute (and as such to be very high in requirements for reaching it), with the range of options in between.
If its an imperial-controlled station then you could have a CG for bringing imperial slaves to it for staffing - otherwise it would need to wait for passenger-type transport goods for the staffing part of the station.
If it happens after horizons and PL - a surface research outpost as an option?
An entirely different station model type for such a remote "research base" which is distinct for these ones would be nice.
A rare good available from the station might be worth considering for those who make the trip out to it
You could have it accept alien artifacts as a trade good at a fairly high price?

 

[ahiredgun]

A military controlled mining and research station.
Refuel
Repair
Rearm
Universal cartographs
Basic outfiting
Small exporing ships and long range transport ships in ship yard
Commoditys should be metals for sale cheap food is can be sold for good profit
System I think it's called Maya has lots of resources and a black hole

 

[shadragon]

Station would be pointless, all explorers carry fuel scoops no fuel needed - Ammo for repair would be needed for some, don't see how this would be of any use.

No one could get there without a scoop, but as the unarmed explorers discovered at Sgr A*, an armed combat ship can do a lot of damage in a hurry. Why give then an opportunity to reload and take out explorers?

This station is effectively a hand hold to the beginner explorers. I'd bypass it myself as would lots of others, but while I like this CG, I don't want to create a weapon that can take down my ship or others.

I guess I just think a little darker thoughts than others.

 

[fennster]

No one could get there without a scoop, but as the unarmed explorers discovered at Sgr A*, an armed combat ship can do a lot of damage in a hurry. Why give then an opportunity to reload and take out explorers?

This station is effectively a hand hold to the beginner explorers. I'd bypass it myself as would lots of others, but while I like this CG, I don't want to create a weapon that can take down my ship or others.

I guess I just think a little darker thoughts than others.

If it is to be a explorer's station why not make it have the best discounts on fuel scoops, FSD, scanners, etc? An incentive for new explorers to get out there..

 

[Ian Phillips]

And now with added poll - in two sections.

You have 2 votes, please choose an option from each section.

 

[Bomba Luigi]

Would love a Station at Barnards loop, alltough maybe a closer nebula would be better. But I was thinking, building the Station somwhere in inhabitet space and it then flys out there maybe we can make a fun second CG out of this? Don't really think having enough fuel should be a problem for a station, but maybe something could go wrong and they end up with no fuel half way there, and then we make a CG to bring fuel to station 500Ly out. A CG in honor to the Fuel Rats

 

[Bacalao]

I love this idea! I hope one day the galaxy will be open for individuals or groups to expand. I'd love to explore out, find a good place for an outpost, haul a small core module out and a few NPCs, feed them ore from a few local belts, get a framework done. Ferry out more NPCs and technology from the bubble, finally finish building an outpost with basic services. Continue to do that in the neighboring systems, create a mini bubble if you will. Tend the economies, protect the stations, eventually build something on the order of a Coriolis.
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I hope one day that we see all kinds of little human bubbles all over the galaxy from the near to the far side because of the work of commanders, maybe in a couple years you jump into a system and find the husk of an old outpost that someone worked to build but abandoned and it collapsed. It could add so much life, so much to exploring.
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Lot's of comments asking "why? How does it make sense, in game?". It makes sense out of game to want to go and establish a remote outpost, then it makes sense in game. "To see if we can" is a good enough reason, so much has been done simply to "see if we can". Not to mention research, expansion, exploration, "manifest destiny", religion, etc, as well as function.

 

[djtruthsayer]

Hi there all, first The Imperial Inquisition will wholeheartedly support this goal.

second, i would like to propose that this be an effort supported by the 3 major powers, in effect an act of collaboration, written into lore as a step toward a peaceful future between the factions.
The Station would be magnificent, with each power providing art in all it's forms from throughout their history to adorn the walls, floors and ceilings, music would be performed by the greatest musicians alive today throughout human space in auditorium that would make the emporer himself (RIP) blush for the ostentation.
The Library aboard the station would be the grandest in existence, with copies of every major work of literature from the last 5000 years stored and presented in magnificent, gilded hardbacks, like in the good old days.
Science would not be forgotten either, as the greatest minds of their generation would be invited to work, without heed for allegiance, together, for the betterment of mankind in laboratories where budget is never questioned and materials are always available.
The Station would also act as a depository of genetic and biological samples, ensuring the continuation of all life within human space, much as the seed bank in switzerland serves for us now.
Embassies would be maintained by the major powers, and the station would be used as a neutral meeting ground for peaceful diplomacy throughout human space.
Explorers would use the station as a jumping off point for exploration and the station itself would move around the nebula, exploring systems in detail (i would imagine it would orbit a different sun/planet/moon each week, moving with the server reset like jaqcues station does, changing systems once it has explored all the objects of interest)

hope people like this idea, we would support this any which way, but that's my idea

TL/DR - station would be a depository of all that makes humanity great, and a neutral meeting point for the powers as well as a natural center for explorers. also IT MOVES!

 

[Erimus Kamzel]

Summary:

• Scientific research station at Maia. Something different from a Coriolis or Orbis. Make it look 'scientific' with solar arrays, lots of antennas etc..
• Purpose: astrophysics, studying nebula and the black hole.
• Secondary purpose: To act as a staging post for local prospecting and fledgling mining operations.
• Commodities market: importing food, computers, robotics etc. Exporting minerals.
• Universal Cartographics.
• Repair Facility.
• Bulletin board that generates courier missions back to colonized space; missions would be along the lines of ferrying collated data back and forth, resupply missions, and passenger transports (scientific personnel, VIPs etc - more for when npc passengers/crew are added).

A tourism outpost could come later once the main infrastructure has been built and the npc faction who funds the venture has had a return on its investment.

Rival factions could try to sabotage its construction - leading to hostile npcs in the region. Bounty hunters and escorts would have a role to play in the CG.

Legacy:

Other factions would look at it with interest and see if it pays off before launching similar ventures in other areas.

This could be the beginning of proper human expansion beyond our current borders, with future outposts pushing a little further out over time.

 

[Philip Foster]

ME! ME! PICK ME!

 

[Pappy55uk]

Orion cluster-- purpose Listening post for finding Thargoids

 

[Star-Hunter]

And now with added poll - in two sections.

You have 2 votes, please choose an option from each section.

I have to say that the poll options are badly thought out.

 

[Reighn]

This is something I am looking forward to !

Hope this happens

 

[Zenith]

I'm speaking purely for myself here, I'm not officially representing The Canonn, even though I'm associated with the group.
The Canonn was founded on the premise of investigating inexplicable phenomena and cultivating discourse and collaborative research.

I voted for Pleiades and "Other" reason.


The Canonn, in colloboration with a number of Cmdr groups and pilots, have determined that the unusual devices called "Unknown Artefacts" have a directional component.
When released into open space, a UA will pulse in purple and green while emitting audio that resembles whalesong and also the system name in Morse code. A number of these UA have been found free-floating in open space in the Pleiades nebula region. HR 1185 in particular seemed to provide a large number of free-floating UAs for research. Why they are being found in this region is still a topic of discussion.

Since the 1.4 stress test, UA's end up pointing at the same object in the sky when they are released.
That object is the star Merope, one of the Pleiades stars. Cmdr Ratking15 has performed extensive testing that is quite conclusive.
We don't know if they will still point at the same object on final release of 1.4, but The Canonn have a number of Cmdrs primed and ready for testing at the first opportunity.

The Pleiades seem to be the source of UAs. They warrant further research, and it would make a lot of sense to have a cross-faction, mutual cooperative established to research both the provenance of UAs and why they seem to be found frequently in the Pleaides nebula cluster. Federation, Empire, Alliance and Independent systems all want answers as to what UAs are, and more importantly what they can do. Establishing a station either on the periphery or inside the nebula would fulfil a number of criteria:

• A base of research operations tied in with Universal Cartographics.
• A repair and re-arm facility
• A shipyard to construct ships to explore the Pleaides area and beyond.
• An outfitters with a specialism towards mining equipment. The hot blue stars of the Pleiades "bake off" lighter materials leaving rings and planet that are very metallic.
  
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• A stopover for tourism in the nebula.
  
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Research, exploration, mining, military re-arming and tourism. It would have to be a full featured Ocellus station to be self-sufficient away from the bubble and to provide a level of comfort for tourists and long-term researchers.

The Canonn already has a headquarters at Varati. I feel that the only organisation that has the required respect and neutrality to administer such a station would have to be The Pilots Federation. They already have the Jameson Memorial at Shinrarta Dezhra, and this proposed long distance station needs to be faction agnostic to be successful.

 

[Squizzle]

Be good if it was within a few hours gameplay of inhabited space (5k ly or so?) and was a place you could take replacement research crew for the station, or just sightseeing tourists, in your shiny Orca. Close to some special objects, black holes, earth likes with rings, unusual stuff.

Maybe a jump away from a recent nova? So you could pop over and explore a still expanding ring and stuff. Let the Frontier graphics guys show us what they can do - heck, everyone likes explosions

 

[LordZoltan]

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I'm speaking purely for myself here, I'm not officially representing The Canonn, even though I'm associated with the group.
The Canonn was founded on the premise of investigating inexplicable phenomena and cultivating discourse and collaborative research.

I voted for Pleiades and "Other" reason.
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The Canonn, in colloboration with a number of Cmdr groups and pilots, have determined that the unusual devices called "Unknown Artefacts" have a directional component.
When released into open space, a UA will pulse in purple and green while emitting audio that resembles whalesong and also the system name in Morse code. A number of these UA have been found free-floating in open space in the Pleiades nebula region. HR 1185 in particular seemed to provide a large number of free-floating UAs for research. Why they are being found in this region is still a topic of discussion.

Since the 1.4 stress test, UA's end up pointing at the same object in the sky when they are released.
That object is the star Merope, one of the Pleiades stars. Cmdr Ratking15 has performed extensive testing that is quite conclusive.
We don't know if they will still point at the same object on final release of 1.4, but The Canonn have a number of Cmdrs primed and ready for testing at the first opportunity.

The Pleiades seem to be the source of UAs. They warrant further research, and it would make a lot of sense to have a cross-faction, mutual cooperative established to research both the provenance of UAs and why they seem to be found frequently in the Pleaides nebula cluster. Federation, Empire, Alliance and Independent systems all want answers as to what UAs are, and more importantly what they can do. Establishing a station either on the periphery or inside the nebula would fulfil a number of criteria:

• A base of research operations tied in with Universal Cartographics.
• A repair and re-arm facility
• A shipyard to construct ships to explore the Pleaides area and beyond.
• An outfitters with a specialism towards mining equipment. The hot blue stars of the Pleiades "bake off" lighter materials leaving rings and planet that are very metallic.
  
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• A stopover for tourism in the nebula.
  
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Research, exploration, mining, military re-arming and tourism. It would have to be a full featured Ocellus station to be self-sufficient away from the bubble and to provide a level of comfort for tourists and long-term researchers.

The Canonn already has a headquarters at Varati. I feel that the only organisation that has the required respect and neutrality to administer such a station would have to be The Pilots Federation. They already have the Jameson Memorial at Shinrarta Dezhra, and this proposed long distance station needs to be faction agnostic to be successful.

I'm not here representing the Canonn either - so just my point of view - but while there are undoubtedly prettier nebulae than the Pleiades; is aesthetics the only goal? There's definitely something going down in this nebula - and, from a galactic story point of view, it would fit - for the reasons Zenith has laid out.

Exciting stuff, either way - Zach is a true legend.

 

[anikaiful]

Somewhere, very far away from the Bubble. A research station.

 

[OxKing]

I always hoped for a Station in Maya.
Or at least an outpost. I always wondered why there is non.
(But so much miners, last time i checked there in 1.2 or so.)
I head there with my Exploration/Mining ASP and found plenty of good stuff there.

Also, a scientific outpost at Sag A* would be nice.
I think scientific Outposts at such places would be very logical, like the ones we have in the arctic now.

Or maybe tourist stations, for being destinations like what nowdays is an world cruise.
A one in the lifetime vacation for wealthy people. Like the restaurant at the end of the universe.

 

[anikaiful]

I think scientific Outposts at such places would be very logical, like the ones we have in the arctic now.

Outpost, but of unique sort (as there's no such non-orbis/ocellus/coriolis, yet(?)) which would have a Large landing pad. Say, one pad of each size category. It's not a small number of explorers which go out there with large buckets of bolts.