Build a Station inside Nebula - Potential CG - Frontier asking for info...

[RMORTI]

Well, if you had factory ships that could receive mined material and then turn out pieces to be assembled; it might be easier to build it at the location because there would be no need to construct it to withstand a jump or to have a FSD. You'd need access to raw materials from a belt, ring, or HMCP/Metal-rich planet which would bring miners, pirates, and bounty hunters. I can't imagine that if this draws a crowd that it wont also draw in some hostiles. You might need to ship in some high-tech gear, which would lead to missions or community goals.

There could be intrigue. Say, for example, the Empire will build this station and the Federation is opposed to its construction. They might offer missions to destroy miners and or traders and wreak havoc. Or some religious minor faction with reverence for the Nebula might consider it a sin and wage a war against the station construction.

 

[Mouse]

heck I would even lash out and buy a T7 and do mindless transport runs to a nebula station CG... and as somone who prefers killing pirates I am sure you can appreciate the effort that would be put in to run cargo that far

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Well how far from earth was the Babylon Stations ??? I would be all for a station that has a shipyard even... perhaps its own special signature ship later on too

I think I hurt my brain reading this..


http://www.chronology.org/noframes/b-five/astronomy.html#01

 

[Star-Hunter]

- Maybe your stations can't jump that far?
- Maybe a huge Ocellus station is more than is required at what would (initially) be a scientific reseach location? ie: Only a (small) platform is required?
- Maybe the challenge (Community Goal) of taking cargo 1000+ly to a nebula (for example) is more interesting than just doing it locally?

Its not mine. Jaques station is jumping around since it was implemented.
and the station would be reusable if the project ends early. Just jump it into inhabited space. So its not a waste either way.
additionally, we dont really know how dependent an outpost is on supplies. Esp. if the planet it orbits is not colonized.
The station can bring tremendous amounts of supplies with it, along with personal and colonists.

CAN, but does not have to. Security reasons (dangers involved with such a long journey) esp. after the recent accident could mean that it jumps with minimal crew/cargo.

As I mentioned earlier, and in my own thread, the simplest mechanic (simplest = a good starting point as I doubt FD want to invest a lot of dev.time?) would just be to deliver cargo to ships at the location akin to "Seeking Goods".

oh, i totally forgot about that mechanism. yeah, that could work.

 

[NeilF]

Well, if you had factory ships that could receive mined material and then turn out pieces to be assembled; it might be easier to build it at the location because there would be no need to construct it to withstand a jump or to have a FSD. You'd need access to raw materials from a belt, ring, or HMCP/Metal-rich planet which would bring miners, pirates, and bounty hunters. I can't imagine that if this draws a crowd that it wont also draw in some hostiles. You might need to ship in some high-tech gear, which would lead to missions or community goals.

There could be intrigue. Say, for example, the Empire will build this station and the Federation is opposed to its construction. They might offer missions to destroy miners and or traders and wreak havoc. Or some religious minor faction with reverence for the Nebula might consider it a sin and wage a war against the station construction.

That would be nice if the materials required could either be shipped in via regular cargo runs, or mined nearby! Nice!

And as for opposing CGs? I've always loved the idea! Let's have two station location, and only one can get built! BUT! If this were to happen the results from OPEN should account for 50% of the total outcome, and the results from SOLO/GROUP for the other 50%.

Its not mine. Jaques station is jumping around since it was implemented.

Please, let's never mention that waste of time

 

[Obsidian Ant]

Please, let's never mention that waste of time

Michael Brooke's said the other day at EGX, that Jacques Station does have a purpose. Guess we have to wait and see what that is (but hopefully it's won't be a years wait).

 

[Star-Hunter]

Please, let's never mention that waste of time

How was that a waste of time? They said that it was a proof of concept. Just because we havent seen it used since does not make it a waste. (even though this could be a perfect opportunity)

So instead of complaining, why not make use of it, if its already there. Make use of it, so it is not a "waste of time" anymore?

 

[Philip Coutts]

Voted "other". I think it should be a research station funded by the 3 main powers where there is an uneasy alliance for the betterment of mankind but really they just spend their time trying to undermine and outdo each other!

 

[Star-Hunter]

Voted "other". I think it should be a research station funded by the 3 main powers where there is an uneasy alliance for the betterment of mankind but really they just spend their time trying to undermine and outdo each other!

That was my idea too. but instead of powers i went with the three factions.

 

[askavir]

That would be nice if the materials required could either be shipped in via regular cargo runs, or mined nearby! Nice!

And as for opposing CGs? I've always loved the idea! Let's have two station location, and only one can get built! BUT! If this were to happen the results from OPEN should account for 50% of the total outcome, and the results from SOLO/GROUP for the other 50%.



Please, let's never mention that waste of time

Actually Jaques station would be awesome if it had an extremely long jump range, and a publicly available "schedule".

Imagine that we could know where it was and its route at all times. We could hitch a ride in it into a far away point in the galaxy, explore the sorroundings for some time, and get back on it in time to catch a ride home or to some other point in the galaxy. Like an galaxy exploration bus / basecamp.

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Voted "other". I think it should be a research station funded by the 3 main powers where there is an uneasy alliance for the betterment of mankind but really they just spend their time trying to undermine and outdo each other!

Babylon 5!

 

[Florizel]

1.Research Station. Most remembers "Solaris" station. Maybe with possibility to look space through an enormous telescope etc. etc.

2.Mining station. A huge mining station, with dense traffic of NPC mining vessels and separate landing pads/slot for such ships.

3.Isolated colony of religious group. Must be huge, to be home for many people. Possible they terraforming a nearby planet and then settle there. (If no, then this station must continually grow and expand.)

4.Usual station, as possible motel for explorers and wanderers...

 

[Arubeto]

Michael Brooke's said the other day at EGX, that Jacques Station does have a purpose. Guess we have to wait and see what that is (but hopefully it's won't be a years wait).

Ha, that's great to know! I was sure over all the stuff with PP, CQC and now Horizons they just forgot about Jaques patiently waiting at Glies 1269 for nearly four months now. Looking forward to his next movements! Perhaps he'll even get a nice 3D model with the "Commander Creator"? Are there even "Cyborg" variants in the appearance options?

 

[majogl]

Voted "other". I think it should be a research station funded by the 3 main powers where there is an uneasy alliance for the betterment of mankind but really they just spend their time trying to undermine and outdo each other!

No No No! Powers have nothing to do with this and that's the way it should stay... Exploration is politics-free zone. Only party involved in this station and the chosen system should be Universal Cartographics. A new purely scientific outpost, with no trading, no outfitting, only repairs, refueling and selling data, possibly at higher rewards... All 3 kinds of landing platforms.

 

[DoctorDangerous]

So I voted that our station should be an Exploration station but let me be more specific. By means of Exploration I believe it would benefit the community and mankind for the station to be an outpost of the scientific sort. Possibly placed further out to better probe the Unknown Artifacts that have been appearing in our systems. As a commander concerned about the current findings of these objects, I believe we should progress our study of the Unknown Artifact further away from "civilized' space in the case that these objects could pose some sort of threat to our kind. I request this not in the name of any one faction, but in the name of humanity as a whole. I also believe Barnard's Loop would be of sufficient distance from the boarders or our kind so that the Unknown Artifacts could be studied safely without posing immediate annihilation to our species in the case that they are inherently dangerous.

 

[Nutter]

No No No! Powers have nothing to do with this and that's the way it should stay... Exploration is politics-free zone. Only party involved in this station and the chosen system should be Universal Cartographics. A new purely scientific outpost, with no trading, no outfitting, only repairs, refueling and selling data, possibly at higher rewards... All 3 kinds of landing platforms.

This ^ No Powers please, they are a royal pain for explorers. Join me for x then get hassle from everyone else! Bah!

Also it has to be a Oculus Station as it will need to be self sufficient so far away from Humans

 

[Elementical]

We had an Alliance exploration CG earlier in the year with the suggestion that there would be new colonies this year. However, that seems increasingly unlikely.

Galnet - 27 March

Explorers Needed for Alliance Colonisation Programme
Beyond the borders of occupied human space, the vast mysteries of the universe are waiting to be discovered. The last thousand years of human history have been shaped by our combined ability to travel through the stars in search of a better future.

Yet what has humanity done with this precious gift? The same thing we’ve always done. We wasted it.

Greed and war run rampant throughout the galaxy, and the concept of freedom has become nothing more than a buzzword spewed by people who have never known it.

The Alliance knows there’s a better way, but to prove it they need YOUR help.

For the next two weeks, the Alliance of Independent Systems will be collecting exploration data for an exciting new colonisation initiative due to launch later this year.

Commanders interested in working with the Alliance should deliver any information they’ve uncovered in relation to potential colony sites to Purple Power Interstellar aboard Ziemkiewicz Ring in Tsu.

There’s an opportunity to build on that idea based on the concept of the mobile station. Due to the structure of the Alliance (which we know very little), factions couldn’t agree on who’d control the new colonies. A compromise was reached (the debate about colonies continues) and a new station would be constructed. It would host scientists from across the entire Alliance to study and analyse scientific data.

The station would move each month to a new location, and an exploration CG would be available for the same time. The station will travel around the galaxy on a long term mission of discovery.
It's another idea to add to the list!

 

[Daish]

Witch Head Nebula
Station purpose data transfer and scientific research,
community goal players to supply station with either parts for completion & science data lost during a station melt down the data has been sucked into the vacum of the nebula and needs to be retrieved and brought back to the station. it short a explorers based missions as data is spread far out into the nebula perhaps even near a black hole itself will we dare to venture to close to retrieve the data the data may take a long period to find in order to bring the station back to its full potential, Lets think of Disneys the Black hole movie scenario ship/ station on the knife edge of black hole looking for answers, the back drop setting of a huge-ish black hole and station within reach would be pure eye candy.

 

[RMORTI]

No No No! Powers have nothing to do with this and that's the way it should stay... Exploration is politics-free zone. Only party involved in this station and the chosen system should be Universal Cartographics. A new purely scientific outpost, with no trading, no outfitting, only repairs, refueling and selling data, possibly at higher rewards... All 3 kinds of landing platforms.

I get you, but it's a pipe dream. Exploration has almost always been about Powers and financial gain. We went to the Moon, why ----> We could, Russia couldn't = power. Yeah, it cost a lot of money even killed some men; but that is power. China wants to go back to the Moon, why? ----> To show they are equally powerful. A few deaths will probably be hidden from public view in their attempt.

I'm going to build a telescope in space! Power. See how powerful I am, my technological advantage over you?

Oh, you're going to the Moon again, well we are going to Mars! And we're going to build a colony there and all kinds of secret stuff.......


Power, money, finances. Money has and always will make the world go around. You can pretend it doesn't, but you're only fooling yourself.

 

[Star-Hunter]

I get you, but it's a pipe dream. Exploration has almost always been about Powers and financial gain. We went to the Moon, why ----> We could, Russia couldn't = power. Yeah, it cost a lot of money even killed some men; but that is power. China wants to go back to the Moon, why? ----> To show they are equally powerful. A few deaths will probably be hidden from public view in their attempt.

I'm going to build a telescope in space! Power. See how powerful I am, my technological advantage over you?

Oh, you're going to the Moon again, well we are going to Mars! And we're going to build a colony there and all kinds of secret stuff.......


Power, money, finances. Money has and always will make the world go around. You can pretend it doesn't, but you're only fooling yourself.

Too true unfortunately.

Thats why i think that, if you are going to spend huge amounts of credits to build something out in the middle of nowhere to study a unique and beautiful phenomenon. you might as well spend a little more and make it a tourist destination as well. That way you can get some profit out if it too.

Edit: It should also be an awesome basis for future stories. because civilians + science is always a good combination. Jurassic Park, Alien, any number of Fringe episodes, just to name a few.

 

[noodle]

Apologies if this has been suggested, but I would expect some *very* high prices for goods being hauled to a station hundreds of light years from civilised space.

 

[Star-Hunter]

Apologies if this has been suggested, but I would expect some *very* high prices for goods being hauled to a station hundreds of miles from civilised space.

"miles"
How cute