Horizons price discussion
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I think this is a ridiculous question, especially considering the info we already have re: the amount of content that comes with Horizons.
"Your friend" will be paying as much as anybody pays for a major expansion.
If "your friend" doesn't want to pay the market value for said major expansion, I would suggest they wait till whatever comes after Horizons and it will
surely be drastically discounted.
This is the same pricing model as every single other game out there. Content costs money. Nobody rides for free.
As they say in the States.... Ass, Grass, or Cash.
"Your friend" will be paying as much as anybody pays for a major expansion.
If "your friend" doesn't want to pay the market value for said major expansion, I would suggest they wait till whatever comes after Horizons and it will
surely be drastically discounted.
This is the same pricing model as every single other game out there. Content costs money. Nobody rides for free.
As they say in the States.... Ass, Grass, or Cash.
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As others have said... its 30 quid for the expansion thanks to the fact he already owns ED so he does not need to buy the base game again...
And if he still does wants to argue / not buy it.. Then that is his choice, invite him over to watch you explore a planet, AFTER you have done a couple of planetary explorations first of course, and show him what he is missing out on
And if he still does wants to argue / not buy it.. Then that is his choice, invite him over to watch you explore a planet, AFTER you have done a couple of planetary explorations first of course, and show him what he is missing out on
I would expect about 6 months after launch they will repackage the offerings so existing ED owners will be able to "upgrade" to season 2 for a different fee structure.
you want it instant? pay the high price, you want it at discount, wait for one to happen. Sooner or later steam will give a 40% discount anyways.
Wait... you mean early adopters usually pay a higher price than people who wait?
Balderdash!!!!
well as one who pays somewhere near the most local currency (exchanging to USD EURO or POUNDS) I paid 50 quid (close to 100 AUD at the time) for the mercenary pack + beta access over 12 months ago
I am not some rich kid or whatnot, I work damned hard and long hours away from my lovely wife to earn my coin.. I do not have a single problem with FDev's pricing myself... sure it would be lovely if it was cheaper but it isn't and that's the price that gets paid if we want it as soon as possible...
I just brought a mate a copy of ED through steam on sale for about 25 AUD... obviously a lot cheaper than what I paid and obviously cheaper than if I had brought him horizons... I can gift it to him through steam so it was really a no brainer to give him that as he is an old elite fan from way back...
Buy it or Not, wait for it to go on sale etc etc if that is what you prefer, I do that with a lot of games and other software (wait for it to come on sale on steam) because I do not like parting with hard earned money easily, this is also why when I saw the LEP (which cost me about 200 AUD to buy) I snapped it up because it equates to all future expansions for ED at about 22 AUD a year because of the remaining 9 Years in the frontier development plan (we are nearly 1 year in since release)
Either way even if they stop for whatever reason after 5 years I guarantee I will have had my moneys worth in entertainment value alone... When I am not busy working I tend to spend a fair bit of time in game doing things, I have well and truely clocked up over 1000 hours (FDev WHY OH WHY did you take out the total play time from the statistics???) and no doubt will clock up many many more hours ....
Some people (like me) actively support frontier through the store as and when we can, buying paintjobs, buying merchandise and e books etc so they can continue to have more funding to develop more aspects of the game for everyone to enjoy...
What do you think they will spend the money received from people upgrading to horizons (and other future expansions) on? I would suggest mostly on further development and operating costs while returing a nice dividend to their shareholders, which as a listed company is something very important for them to do as well...
If E
does well, then Frontier does well, and if Frontier do well then so do a lot of mum and dad investors when they get their yearly dividends...
I'm curious whether we we will get these threads again in another year, when they bundle seasons1 and 2 with the season 3 release...
...while providing a trivial discount to people who already bought all the previous versions of the game. Yeah, I got the LEP, but that doesn't mean that I can't call out questionable pricing schemes when I see them.
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Absolutely.
But they will be far less long since everyone will already know what to expect.
Anyway, it is going to be interesting to see if that first season is worth it.
A monthly sub with free season patches would be better imo (plz note the IMO part), as it would spread out payments instead of a lump sum and would get them more cash to do bigger and better things. As long as we don't end up with Cartel coins!
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A monthly sub with free season patches would be better imo (plz note the IMO part), as it would spread out payments instead of a lump sum and would get them more cash to do bigger and better things. As long as we don't end up with Cartel coins!
why not consider horizons a monthly sub... its £3 a month for 12 months, but you have to pay upfront
(PS I am only teasing)
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I'll most likely be dead by then... but that's my plan! Maybe even go for 11 and get all of it on Steam sale! Win/win!
Do you also consider pricing to be questionable when a video game is released for $60 USD, and sells for $20 USD two years later while the Ultimate Edition sells for $60 USD which includes the original game and all three expansions that originally sold for $40 each?
What about movie franchises? Is the fact that the first movie cost you $30 (including snacks) to go see it in theaters when it first comes out, you can see it four months later for $15 (with snacks) at the discount theatre, and can rent it for $3 at home, also questionable? Not to mention how DVDs always cost more when they're first released, and if you wait you can get them cheaper, and if you wait longer they get bundled for even cheaper.
The same is true for CDs... for as long as CDs are still available.
It's the nature of entertainment pricing. You will ALWAYS pay more for a new release than if you wait.
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Well, imagine how much money this will save you then!
But, oh well... being a biker in a large city, we'll see who wins this race...
Somehow I think, I should spend the money NOW!
You aren't making a relevant point. When Horizons (which includes Dangerous) became available for sale it only offered a 15 USD discount while FD were still selling Dangerous for the full asking prices. This has nothing to do with depreciation.
If we were having this conversation in the middle of 2016, you might have a relevant point.
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And this is the myth being perpetuated on this forum.. if you already own ED and purchase Horizons on your existing account, you do not get an extra copy of the base game. You are getting season 2 expansion for £30.
That is not true. If you buy Horizons it includes Dangerous (content). It is true that you don't get a second copy of Dangerous if you're getting the discount by already having Dangerous, but that is likewise irrelevant.
Heck, if you got the Horizons LEP, you could even play Dangerous now, though if you already owned Dangerous and got the Horizons LEP, you still only got a 15 USD discount.
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I just took a look at the frontier store...
ED as it is right now sells for 30, and Horizons preorder for 40. So what you are saying is those of us that got ED earlier should only be paying 10 for horizons... Which kind of makes sense if it was not for the fact that there are still no less than 2 more updates this season for ED... 1.4 with CQC and the 1.5 Ships pack as well as whatever updates get added to the base game for the next 9 years...
If Horizons was going to be the last season for ED I actually would agree with you on this... Another persepctive to view it is also that they are pricing it (ED) to encourage people to buy a pre-order of horizons instead of buying ED right now... Why they do no just remove ED from the store and make the Horizons pre-order include the ability to play ED now I cannot say beyond they are catering for people who do not wish to preorder horizons...
ED as it is right now sells for 30, and Horizons preorder for 40. So what you are saying is those of us that got ED earlier should only be paying 10 for horizons... Which kind of makes sense if it was not for the fact that there are still no less than 2 more updates this season for ED... 1.4 with CQC and the 1.5 Ships pack as well as whatever updates get added to the base game for the next 9 years...
If Horizons was going to be the last season for ED I actually would agree with you on this... Another persepctive to view it is also that they are pricing it (ED) to encourage people to buy a pre-order of horizons instead of buying ED right now... Why they do no just remove ED from the store and make the Horizons pre-order include the ability to play ED now I cannot say beyond they are catering for people who do not wish to preorder horizons...
What ticks me off is they are going to divide the game's community into the "have" and "the have not's". And with the addition of crafting and "unique" items (to be used in crafting) only being found on planet surfaces, those with out the DLc will just have to play a different game at the end of the day.
In the grand scheme of things I care very little from a personal stand point, I have a life time pass from KS. But my friends (some who just can't justify paying more) will not be able to take part in that part of the game fully. I always thought the game was going to make the bulk of it's extra cash from Cosmetics, but it's seeming more and more likely that it will be made forcing everyone to buy DLc just to take part in those element with their friends.
My 2 pence.
In the grand scheme of things I care very little from a personal stand point, I have a life time pass from KS. But my friends (some who just can't justify paying more) will not be able to take part in that part of the game fully. I always thought the game was going to make the bulk of it's extra cash from Cosmetics, but it's seeming more and more likely that it will be made forcing everyone to buy DLc just to take part in those element with their friends.
My 2 pence.