The Star Citizen Thread v 3.0
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I only found out about ED whilst looking into backing SC, I'm glad I went with ED and dropped SC after finding out. CIG need to get sqaudron 42 out (if only as an alpha test for backers) to prove they have a valid game in the making. I suspect they will release another very shiny trailer and be no closer to a game this weekend.
I hope SC doesn't prove to be vaporware as I am a privateer, wing commander fan (not of the film). But there's not much to show for all the time, effort and money so far (other than trailers).
Having said that Derek Smart the genius behind battlecruiser 3000AD and other bargain bin specials should be utterly ignored. As should the attack dogs in the RSI forum going for anyone who says "how about a release date then".
As a non-backer of SC the kerfuffle is entertaining, and if they ship a working game (even a stripped down offline only SQ42) I'll buy it and enjoy it (probably).
Either way I'm glad I backed ED instead.
I hope SC doesn't prove to be vaporware as I am a privateer, wing commander fan (not of the film). But there's not much to show for all the time, effort and money so far (other than trailers).
Having said that Derek Smart the genius behind battlecruiser 3000AD and other bargain bin specials should be utterly ignored. As should the attack dogs in the RSI forum going for anyone who says "how about a release date then".
As a non-backer of SC the kerfuffle is entertaining, and if they ship a working game (even a stripped down offline only SQ42) I'll buy it and enjoy it (probably).
Either way I'm glad I backed ED instead.
Well yes, it was never designed (or intended) to be free form. Have in mind that the game will have manual landings on specific places (maps) in planets, as well as in space (as we can already see in AC).
CIG have said that after the game is out, they are thinking of adding free-form planetary landing, atmospheric flight etc etc. This will depend on a second phase of their PG project (think of it like an expansion in ED).
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The elephant in the room is, if they do sue, where does the money to handle the legal case come from? If it's a personal slander / libel case by CR and wife then they need to cover the costs and not the company with KS funds.
The lawyers are the only winners in any court case and they won't be taking IOU's.
Yep. And space is still just a "map" with "boundaries". And planets still don't orbit their stars. Which is fine if you're looking for Freelancer 2.
Oh i hated this in Freelancer. Theres static ring-tubes you have to fly trough to travel between different planes within a system. Complete nonsense, killing immersion.
Oh aye ditto definitely interested, it could indeed be great.
Just have a ton of concerns so no way I'm buying even on day 1.
Controls, nausea in FPS, also I'm now kinda worried about what kind of monetisation is going to be in the game.
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No one is suing anyone, CIG don't have a case and they can't afford the scrutiny it'd bring besides. You'll notice in their letters, they never really address the financial issues raised.
I'd like to point out that the accounts for all three of CIG's UK subsidiaries are now marked overdue. You can see for yourselves here (Foundry 42 Ltd), here (RIS International Ltd), and here (CIG UK Ltd).
This is potentially a very serious matter, which if not resolved could lead to criminal prosecution of the directors and unlimited fines. You can read a little about Gordon Ramsay's run ins with Companies House here in case you're wondering just how serious this is.
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I didn't think it was that bad, tbh. What really grinds my gears are the planet sizes...comical, really.
EDIT: I still really love and play FL. The static maps present some interesting gameplay, especially for piracy.
Discovery Freelancer Mod is still kicking with active players, btw.
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Overdue with what?
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In the UK all incorporated bodies have to file statutory accounts (as in some financial data) within a given deadline every year, unless they have an exemption for whatever reason.
Small companies can file very limited financial data, whereas big listed ones have to give far more detail.
Ok thx, so they are overdue with bureaucracy, not with payments? I can sympathise with that.
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Serious question...why does the UK require this?
In my mind, if I'm running a privately held company, I'm only responsible to my private investors, my employees and my, by a limited amount, customers.
So the government can make sure you're paying enough tax.
My guess - Taxes.
Companies pay taxes I don't imagine it would be very easy for the tax man to tell how much tax the firm owed if they had no idea how much they had in the first place.
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Companies pay taxes I don't imagine it would be very easy for the tax man to tell how much tax the firm owed if they had no idea how much they had in the first place.
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Quite often the accounts are useful to get an insight into whether the company is worth dealing with eg are they solvent. Getting a copy is really very cheap. Don't really understand why they would not be complying, because they can afford accountants and auditors unless its deliberate.
Oh, right. I forget about that sometimes. Gotta pay for the services and niceties that make industry possible!
Jesus. Didn't know about that. This could end really badly, and doesn't help answer questions about CI's corporate governance or lack thereof.
I'm another one who didn't back, but am watching with interest.
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