CQC CQC Credits

Can we please postpone the rant until we see how much money can be earned in CQC until somebody reaches the highest prestige rank?

Because, until then, we can hardly speak of "super athletes". Starting our career, we all are nothing but "local league" (or whatsoever the Enlish term migth be; in Germany, it would be called "Kreisliga".)

Sunday League I think, though that may be the more slang term.
 
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Can we please postpone the rant until we see how much money can be earned in CQC until somebody reaches the highest prestige rank?

Because, until then, we can hardly speak of "super athletes". Starting our career, we all are nothing but "local league" (or whatsoever the Enlish term migth be; in Germany, it would be called "Kreisliga".)


Why exactly? I'm sorry but 3k credits is still an insultingly low number if you aren't a day one xbox one user which is what this patch is feeling like it was made for. 3k credits is a minute of a reward for any sensible commander even at the lowest rank. And if its the xbox one users they're worried about upsetting the economy on, how about giving the PC and Mac users they're own separate amount of credits earned from CQC something more in line with what we should expect.
 
Honestly it felt awkward to earn credits for multiplayer PVP matches. CQC and the main game should be completely separate from each other, including ranks and credits.
 
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It's a curious number, I'll grant you. Neither as much as you're likely to be making playing the main game, even as a relatively new Commander, nor quite the 'nothing at all' which would keep CQC as its own separate game like some would rather.

But I'm not going to complain about what amounts to paid training - I spent my first hour or two of Elite playing the combat training over and over until I was happy with the controls before I risked piloting something I'd be upset about crashing into the side of a space station; this strikes me as a far more fun way to do the same, even for those who don't end up enjoying it so much as to carry on further.
 
Why exactly? I'm sorry but 3k credits is still an insultingly low number if you aren't a day one xbox one user which is what this patch is feeling like it was made for. 3k credits is a minute of a reward for any sensible commander even at the lowest rank. And if its the xbox one users they're worried about upsetting the economy on, how about giving the PC and Mac users they're own separate amount of credits earned from CQC something more in line with what we should expect.

They will always build and design the game so that it makes sense from the perspective of new players. If you are actually insulted I'd suggest not playing and maybe take a look at the ego.
 
Real athletes earn because they provide entertainment to ordinary people who pay money to see them. Nobody wants to watch you play a video game. Grow up.
(And please give an option to remove the CQC progress from the main game status panel, thanks)

I have to agree. CQC is just a bit of fun. There is zero risk to your in-game assets so why should you get to significantly increase your bank balance by taking part.

also I agree that the CQC rank of helpless is a blight stinking up my, otherwise fair-to-middling status console :rolleyes:
 
Sunday League I think, though that may be the more slang term.

My attempt at CQC last night was more drunk old man falling over the ball a lot and would have made Sunday league players look like pro football players. Just glad my son wasn't around to tell me how embarrassing I was luckily he was busy playing Destiny... Or some such guff.
 
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Hello,

Have you tried crashing said Python into a station (although why you'd want to is a different topic)? You get to pay the same amount of insurance in Open/Group/Solo mode (except maybe CQC where you probably can't fly a Python).

There are risks in all three Open/Group/Solo modes that can cause you to loose alot of credits. Just cause you've been able to avoid those risks, does not mean they are not there. CQC, blow up ship, get another one.

Have fun, fly safe.

Made this point in beta CQC no risk (die get another life) and little rewards. CQC NEEDS events and entry fees.

A simple change. Insurance CQC ship, no money for new CQC means you have to play ED to get more money.
 
Real athletes earn because they provide entertainment to ordinary people who pay money to see them. Nobody wants to watch you play a video game. Grow up.
(And please give an option to remove the CQC progress from the main game status panel, thanks)

That's why I used the quotes "Athletes". And it was within the context of the Elite universe. You should pay more attention.

I have to agree. CQC is just a bit of fun. There is zero risk to your in-game assets so why should you get to significantly increase your bank balance by taking part.

also I agree that the CQC rank of helpless is a blight stinking up my, otherwise fair-to-middling status console :rolleyes:

For the simple fact that I'm playing the game for a considerable amount of time. It's fun yes, but why give me credits at all? And why did they say that CQC could be a means of earning money in the real game? We all know 40,000 credits an hour is nothing to players who already have amassed millions. If it is separate fine, than keep it completely separate and don't include it in your main game states.

Made this point in beta CQC no risk (die get another life) and little rewards. CQC NEEDS events and entry fees.

A simple change. Insurance CQC ship, no money for new CQC means you have to play ED to get more money.

And that would make things a little more immersive, if there was some kind of charge to get started.
 
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Made this point in beta CQC no risk (die get another life) and little rewards. CQC NEEDS events and entry fees.

A simple change. Insurance CQC ship, no money for new CQC means you have to play ED to get more money.

It doesn't need entry fees... CQC is a stand alone multiplayer PVP and should be treated as such. No connection to the main game should be present. No credits earned, and no credits payed.
 
It doesn't need entry fees... CQC is a stand alone multiplayer PVP and should be treated as such. No connection to the main game should be present. No credits earned, and no credits payed.

I don't understand why so many people say it's completely stand alone, when in update 88 they mentioned being able to make credits off of CQC. Not to mention the fact that it shows up next to all the other rankings in the main game. If it was completely separate all of those things should be removed.
 
Nobody wants to watch you play a video game. Grow up.

http://www.twitch.tv/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOpNcN46UbXVtpKMrmU4Abg

Say that again, it's hilarious!

;)

(And yes, people are streaming CQC - it's no different to someone wanting to watch Football / Rugby / Moto GP etc.. )

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I don't understand why so many people say it's completely stand alone, when in update 88 they mentioned being able to make credits off of CQC. Not to mention the fact that it shows up next to all the other rankings in the main game. If it was completely separate all of those things should be removed.

I think it is because it shows under the other modes

Open
Group
Solo
CQC

^^ Makes it look like another mode to the game, and some folks were not happy over the mode system to start with and FD just added another to the list.
It would be different if you could pilot there and start the match from within game, it would feel more like part of the main game.
 
I don't understand why so many people say it's completely stand alone, when in update 88 they mentioned being able to make credits off of CQC. Not to mention the fact that it shows up next to all the other rankings in the main game. If it was completely separate all of those things should be removed.


I dont have any solid arguments to why it should be treated as a stand alone, but IMO the main game is a pure live another life-space sim. CQC is pure "arcade". Its only goal is to kill as many players as possible, like other pure multiplayer games (read CoD).
For me it's purely subjective, and quite trivial. But it just feels....wrong.
 
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Why exactly? I'm sorry but 3k credits is still an insultingly low number if you aren't a day one xbox one user which is what this patch is feeling like it was made for. 3k credits is a minute of a reward for any sensible commander even at the lowest rank. And if its the xbox one users they're worried about upsetting the economy on, how about giving the PC and Mac users they're own separate amount of credits earned from CQC something more in line with what we should expect.


How ow much does someone get paid to take item A to B in an average galnet mission? A few thousand credits! Get over it! It's a diversion within the main game.

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Starting out you are not a professional athlete, you are an amature legue athlete, prestige increases payout, and is effectively rising a 'degree' what rank you are considered. So yeah, once we get some people at max rank, professionals if you will then we can begin comparing, at least in my book.

Athlete???????? Lol
 
So I should get real money for playing ED? Sounds good to me!:)

Athlete???????? Lol

The conversation is in regards to how CQC is seen within the context of the main game. In the same way an MMA fighter is an Athlete IRL, a CQC match in the Elite universe would be of a similar nature because it's a sort of closed arena fighting. Why is there so much confusion regarding this? I mention CREDITS for a reason. The context should be very clear here. There are missions that pay 300,000 credits plus. The assassination missions that pay 40,000 credits can be completed in the time it takes to finish a round of CQC TDM easily.
 
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The conversation is in regards to how CQC is seen within the context of the main game. In the same way an MMA fighter is an Athlete IRL, a CQC match in the Elite universe would be of a similar nature because it's a sort of closed arena fighting. Why is there so much confusion regarding this? I mention CREDITS for a reason. The context should be very clear here. There are missions that pay 300,000 credits plus. The assassination missions that pay 40,000 credits can be completed in the time it takes to finish a round of CQC TDM easily.

And a CQC battle requires far more skill than even the most complicated missions.

I'm Elite in Combat today. That does not immediately translate into actual skill against a human opponent. CQC does to an extent although there is still a slight tendency to allow you to achieve rank through grinding out enough last place finishes that you will still get there in the end.
 
I'm perfectly happy with how little credit this brings in, but if they ever oomphed the amount, I wouldnt complain about it either. There absolutely no risk in playing this game mode. You can still grind for ranks just by sitting in games and not doing -anything- and still get credit, so credit making is a moot.

However what would be fun is to place bets at the start of the game, and make it into a gambling thing as well (Pot based, no multipliers, what so ever), with there being observers who can place bets. Now that would be an interesting twist. Because after all, its a game within a game, and there are sports betting. (but you cannot bet further than what already is in the pot: but starting from 100 x rank + 100 x (prestige * 50) cr)
 
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