Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

Do you want a Open PvE

  • Yes, I want a Open PvE

    Votes: 54 51.4%
  • No, I don't want a Open PvE

    Votes: 49 46.7%
  • I want only Open PvE and PvP only in groups

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
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I thought I wanted open PVE but it'd really just split the community up. I think everyone should be mashed together, pvers, pvpers, xboxers and pcers. The universe is very very big, and there isn't many of us to fill it. I found open pve by simply walking the paths less travelled. I know I could run into a player at any time, which is better than playing solo, but I feel safe also so it's the best of both worlds.
 
I thought I wanted open PVE but it'd really just split the community up. I think everyone should be mashed together, pvers, pvpers, xboxers and pcers. The universe is very very big, and there isn't many of us to fill it. I found open pve by simply walking the paths less travelled. I know I could run into a player at any time, which is better than playing solo, but I feel safe also so it's the best of both worlds.

Indeed. And this works very well as an argument against the need to merge as well. Those who do not want PvP can easily move away from core system and play in more remote regions. Its even a bonus for traders, since those remote regions are less exploited, meaning good profits to be had. The downside wuld be, those hankering for PvP would keep an eye on forums/reddit/etc to see where they are playing, and hunt them down. A a minor annoyance for the PvPers but with an ultimatre win, but a major annoynce for the PvEers who are just trying to avoid PvP.

What does that have to do with either comment?


That was my question to you, but you didn't answer.
 
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Indeed. And this works very well as an argument against the need to merge as well. Those who do not want PvP can easily move away from core system and play in more remote regions. Its even a bonus for traders, since those remote regions are less exploited, meaning good profits to be had. The downside wuld be, those hankering for PvP would keep an eye on forums/reddit/etc to see where they are playing, and hunt them down. A a minor annoyance for the PvPers but with an ultimatre win, but a major annoynce for the PvEers who are just trying to avoid PvP.




That was my question to you, but you didn't answer.

I'm not really obligated to answer all of your posts, and when all its going to result in is in an endless back and forth what's the point? Accept the statement or don't.

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It's not really mind reading when it is out in the open for everyone to read, just saying.

What? Is it asking too much that people follow the conversation before replying? Can we at least do that?
 
I thought I wanted open PVE but it'd really just split the community up. I think everyone should be mashed together, pvers, pvpers, xboxers and pcers. The universe is very very big, and there isn't many of us to fill it. I found open pve by simply walking the paths less travelled. I know I could run into a player at any time, which is better than playing solo, but I feel safe also so it's the best of both worlds.

I really prefer playing on my own. I enjoy the slow, gradual progress that I get from PvE. I utterly dislike PvP, and play solo so that I'll never have to put up with it, no matter where I go.

People have different personalities, and Frontier have done a good job of reflecting that with the three game modes. People can play in their own way, and never have to become content for others.

Cheers, Phos
 
What? Is it asking too much that people follow the conversation before replying? Can we at least do that?

Oh so quoting me and randomly calling me a "mind reader" without any explanation was following the conversation but people asking you about it or commenting on you doing it isn't ?

You derailed this train. So you don't get to be snippy when people want to know why you did.
 
I'm not really obligated to answer all of your posts, and when all its going to result in is in an endless back and forth what's the point? Accept the statement or don't.

Absoloutely not. But then you failed to clarify why your post made sense and instead continued a circular argument about reading minds with another poster. Errr....
 
I thought I wanted open PVE but it'd really just split the community up. I think everyone should be mashed together, pvers, pvpers, xboxers and pcers. The universe is very very big, and there isn't many of us to fill it. I found open pve by simply walking the paths less travelled. I know I could run into a player at any time, which is better than playing solo, but I feel safe also so it's the best of both worlds.


than go play EVE where you have that environment and don't force us who've dealt with that environment and found it utter crap to ED.
 
The comment had nothing at all to do with either my comment or the one I replied to. You'd think it's not complicated but here we are..


Wow.. this excuse again.. how many people have you tried it on already? Quite a few.. need something more original
 
The comment had nothing at all to do with either my comment or the one I replied to. You'd think it's not complicated but here we are..

I'm not really obligated to answer all of your posts, and when all its going to result in is in an endless back and forth what's the point? Accept the statement or don't.
 
I utterly dislike PvP, and play solo so that I'll never have to put up with it, no matter where I go.

I agree completely. The only reason I started playing in open was that the game felt too lonely.

I've seen one player so far outside of an orbital station and nothing happened (and I was in Eravate which has a bad rep for ganking)

My reasoning for feeling safe on the outlying areas of the game isn't simply because the areas are more remote, but I'm working on the assumption that anyone that far away from the populated areas is probably there for the same reason I am, and is more likely to be friendly. Have to see how that works in practice ;)
 
What assumptions?

In case you missed it, we have over 6,000 posts in this thread and another 20,000 in 2 other threads of people saying they hate the core mechanics of mode switching or having one BGS (sometimes both) - that is not an "assumption" that is a fact - you can read the evidence yourself, in this very thread, some of your own posts support that comment.

As for the Devs intentions, they made it quite clear when they said in response to calls to remove modes switching or locking content to open only that they support it and are not changing it. They also said they want 1 BGS - so where is the "assumption" when I have a full wall of quotes in my sig stating their intent ??

I've made no "assumptions" in the post you quoted.

And I can clearly see you have no intent to discuss anything.
With 1 post off topic with a veiled insult, followed up with another post with just insults in it - that's quite clear you're not here to talk about anything.

No there are not thousands of posts reflecting they "hate" anything. And my comments certainly don't reflect that at all. So again you are reading into it what you want to see. Insisting I hold some opinion I don't have isn't doing your argument any favors, and I'll continue to point out when you attempt to twist people's words or pigeonhole them into a category. It's pretty rude to put words in people's mouths and I'm not sure why you think you have the right to do it, but I'm not going to let you do it to me. If you can show s comment where I express hate or even disdain for the current system quote it.

Nobody brought up the devs intentions, and we are free to discuss the benifits or downsides regardless of their intentions. Running around pointing to your hand picked quotes isn't going to stop that conversation, it is only relevant when discussing intentions which really isn't the point of solo/open debate, and carries the air of a forum warrior trying on shutting down discussion and a pretty extreme bias. Regardless of what they want or intend we are free to post our opinion, and no that doesn't mean we bought the wrong game, or that we hate the current system.

And you can read my comments or not but as I said a couple pages back, I'm fine with whatever I'm just here to kick around ideas, if you can't handle that it's your problem.
 
I agree completely. The only reason I started playing in open was that the game felt too lonely.

I've seen one player so far outside of an orbital station and nothing happened (and I was in Eravate which has a bad rep for ganking)

My reasoning for feeling safe on the outlying areas of the game isn't simply because the areas are more remote, but I'm working on the assumption that anyone that far away from the populated areas is probably there for the same reason I am, and is more likely to be friendly. Have to see how that works in practice ;)


I"m in Mobius.. and I see people all over.. all PVE
 
I just want to add a positive comment to this thread. I think what the events Hutton Truckers, The Code and Zac have done over the last 2 weekends have done a great deal to bring Open and Solo players together (pve and pvp crowd). Both Big Beta Blowout and Hutton Convoy have been huge successes and for the first time I feel optimistic about the prospect of more open and group / solo player playing together in open. We had some great fun, yes ships got destroyed but it was all done in good spirit and to everyone's enjoyment. These events have helped a lot to strengthen the trust and understanding between the different player groups. I feel that this is the way forward and I look forward to future events. A huge thanks to all organizers and participants. We do seem to have a great community here at ED and we should be optimistic for the future :)
 
I agree completely. The only reason I started playing in open was that the game felt too lonely.

I've seen one player so far outside of an orbital station and nothing happened (and I was in Eravate which has a bad rep for ganking)

My reasoning for feeling safe on the outlying areas of the game isn't simply because the areas are more remote, but I'm working on the assumption that anyone that far away from the populated areas is probably there for the same reason I am, and is more likely to be friendly. Have to see how that works in practice ;)

That's been my experience as well. The outlying areas I got far more messages than near and in sol, people are generally more relaxed and even if you are outfitted as a bh they aren't as apprehensive.
 
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