CQC CQC is a joke.

Quite correct.
OK, an opinion has been expressed and you have expressed your opinion on it.
Many readers will be of the same opinion that you have opined on. Many will not.
If this forum is not for expressing an opinion then what purpose is it for?
It is good to share opinions with others.

Yeah but you missed the point. He was stating his opinion as if it was a fact. I was pointing out his opinion is not a fact.
 
Last edited:

mxcross2002

M
i had a go , didn't like it but my 13 year old son thinks its ok but a bit easy compared to his console pvp games
but then again who can beat a kid at those things
 
but then again who can beat a kid at those things

From my anecdotal experience any one from their 20s-40s especially while under the influence. Children were not allowed to play with older games in my local LAN/NET café since a few parents complained that their children were crying because the older gamers were a bit heavy handed. Parents had to sign a consent form.
 
There is some skill and some luck in every cqc match.
If you don't like being HELPLESS then you will learn this by the time you're a professional.
 
So, let me get this straight. Get into a dogfight, splash one, have 3 chasing. Hug structures putting pips into shields and engines to give good speed/sustainability, boosting through blocked tunnels to exit hug tight on structures slow to a stop turn just to put the chase and fight into your advantage and winning said fight with 12% hull isn't skill? Sweet So they must have sucked to beable to stick on my 6 for a whole 3 minutes of fancy flying. Mind you I did roll through some intense points like the rails and bars on the outside of the station that would otherwise kill most newer pilots at the speeds i was going. CQC is all skill with some luck. Yes luck is involved too. But there is skill involved as well. Once you get put against people of your similar skill you'll learn this. And with good ip managment you can actually sustain your shields to turn the fight around and not die in 1.5 seconds.
 
Dabbled a bit on CQC, ofc I expected I would get splattered a bit, manage to get kills on first day out.... Maybe I am too used to flying my Conda and Python space trucks.

CQC Is fun, I had some friends come around, fired up the steam machine on the flat screen, so they could watch as I was hyping this new pvp module. Launched with my super rank 3, ended up against rank 10 to 25 players. Got hammered, got ninja killed.... they laughed at me ..... I will come back for more, and hopefully improve :D
 

mxcross2002

M
From my anecdotal experience any one from their 20s-40s especially while under the influence. Children were not allowed to play with older games in my local LAN/NET café since a few parents complained that their children were crying because the older gamers were a bit heavy handed. Parents had to sign a consent form.


i think you know that's not true
 

nats

Banned
As expected I played CQC for a few minutes and I cant see myself going back. Its very shallow. I am far more interested in seeing some of those stations in the main game though. So the development time wont be completely wasted. It was just made for the console crowd. Its just a massive fast scrap, its not very enjoyable, there is no skill employed, and yes its a bit rubbish.
 
Aaaand even better this CQC game that almost all the Elite Dangerous player base are not at all interested in puts a lurid red ranking into your Elite Dangerous ship HUD, I can't understand why they put a rank slot in for what is a separate game?

I'm interested. I'm glad they have it on our HUD in the main game.

Also, those that say CQC is shallow haven't played it enough. I thought it was shallow my first game. I changed my mind after many more.
 
Last edited:
CQC is nothing to do with skill, or knowledge of game mechanics. It's whoever is the higher level and or can kill faster wins.


First hour, lvl 1, against players lvl 25+ and I was killing them easily without them being able to get me off them... How can you say it requires skill when I'm able to do that at lvl 1 and not having touched ED in 5 months prior?


Self-replied.
 
I had a go there and actually had pretty good fun, I'm not sure how balanced it is when your fighting against a rank 32 who has unlocked so much more than you (it probably isnt), but hey had fun anyway.
 
I find it hard to see how CQC has no skill?
Do you throw your power pips around to always to optimal?
Can to use flight assist off and boost to out maneuver your opponent?
Do you pay attention to radar and respond to what's going on before you are getting shot?
Can you use your weapons as fixed to hit someone using chaff/heatsinks/silent running/stealth?
Do you know counters for different weapons? Like keeping distance from cannon eagles and strafing like mad to throw off aim.
Can you time your escape at a time and direction that makes it hard to catch you again?
There is plenty of skills and knowledge to learn to get the edge in CQC.
 
Last edited:
I didn't really bother to read this whole thread, so apologies for repeating something.

Situational awareness is a skill.

Not being an idiot is a skill.

Good job, Commander, you're good at CQC.
 
I didn't really bother to read this whole thread, so apologies for repeating something.

Situational awareness is a skill.

Not being an idiot is a skill.

Good job, Commander, you're good at CQC.


lmao. Read all the pages, and this was the only one remotely worth responding too. Good job sir. I liked it.

I don't think being smart is a skill, people just think they're amazinginly intelligent so they don't attempt to smart themselves so to speak. :p It's todays delusional concept that everyone is special and I'm alone the smartest person, which is only making the world full of very dumb people who refuse to think.

Situational awareness.. kinda ties into the above.. They don't think... has nothing to do with skill though..

If the fights allowed time to menouver, dodge appropriately, change your energy focus's in meaningful ways that don't buy you just a few extra seconds of life, and time to target components of the enemey depending on how they are damaged, etc. to give you an edge up.. that'd require skill and knowledge of game mechanics...

Example: The enemy ship is firing lasers, they're engines are damaged, but their shields are holding, common logic may tell you to focus their power supply, but you realize their heat sinks are damaged, and focus that instead, causing them to over heat their lasers and by pass the shields entirely forcing them to kill themselves...

Knowledge of game mechanics, your enemy, etc. just won you that fight, not who can blast away faster.
 
lmao. Read all the pages, and this was the only one remotely worth responding too. Good job sir. I liked it.

I don't think being smart is a skill, people just think they're amazinginly intelligent so they don't attempt to smart themselves so to speak. :p It's todays delusional concept that everyone is special and I'm alone the smartest person, which is only making the world full of very dumb people who refuse to think.

Situational awareness.. kinda ties into the above.. They don't think... has nothing to do with skill though..

If the fights allowed time to menouver, dodge appropriately, change your energy focus's in meaningful ways that don't buy you just a few extra seconds of life, and time to target components of the enemey depending on how they are damaged, etc. to give you an edge up.. that'd require skill and knowledge of game mechanics...

Example: The enemy ship is firing lasers, they're engines are damaged, but their shields are holding, common logic may tell you to focus their power supply, but you realize their heat sinks are damaged, and focus that instead, causing them to over heat their lasers and by pass the shields entirely forcing them to kill themselves...

Knowledge of game mechanics, your enemy, etc. just won you that fight, not who can blast away faster.

I just pointed out how knowledge and use of game mechanics wins you the fight.... Starting to feel like I'm just being trolled, if so gg
 
So skill is only skill when it meets your stringent and narrow definition of skill?

It's not just any quality inherent to a player that gives them the edge but it must be this very specific thing (that presumably the OP possesses, being special and smarter than everyone else) that should be allowed to win matches.

Not to mention that...

"If the fights allowed time to menouver, dodge appropriately, change your energy focus's in meaningful ways"

"Knowledge of game mechanics, your enemy, etc. just won you that fight, not who can blast away faster."

...is literally what happens in the game.
 
Back
Top Bottom