UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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ups. 1400 years soudns better :) 1895 is the year of the first transmissions as far as I can see.

Thanks for correcting me. I will edit the post.

Hate to burst the bubble - but the kind of transmissions used for Morse from then would be too dispersed to be able to distinguish from background radio noise beyond only a few LY out. And that's assuming they could escape the planet's atmosphere, which they almost certainly couldn't - shortwave & longwave travels so far because it bounces back down to the planet surface off the ionosphere.

That's not to say you can't propagate it through the ionosphere, but, because of the low power of the transmissions we're talking about, the inverse square law means that after a decent distance, the signal is too weak to pick up.

That said, attempts were made (see previous thread I think, or earlier in this one) to send signals into specific areas of space at high enough energies that they could be picked up 1000s of LY away - starting from the 1960s I think (the Russians did it first). However, they didn't contain enough information to learn the entire Morse alphabet.

Finally, though, if you happened to be parked just outside Earth around this time, then it would have lit up the sky with RF...
 
So, on the topic of Morse code and the significance of Merope...

Can someone with more knowledge than me work out how many light years that Morse code would have traveled across the galaxy in the time between when it was transmitted on Sol and when the objects arrived (within a year or two would do fine).

We would then have a vector, extending the line from Sol, via Merope, to "some place" according to the distance those signals traveled in that time.
 
Hate to burst the bubble - but the kind of transmissions used for Morse from then would be too dispersed to be able to distinguish from background radio noise beyond only a few LY out. And that's assuming they could escape the planet's atmosphere, which they almost certainly couldn't - shortwave & longwave travels so far because it bounces back down to the planet surface off the ionosphere.

That's not to say you can't propagate it through the ionosphere, but, because of the low power of the transmissions we're talking about, the inverse square law means that after a decent distance, the signal is too weak to pick up.

That said, attempts were made (see previous thread I think, or earlier in this one) to send signals into specific areas of space at high enough energies that they could be picked up 1000s of LY away - starting from the 1960s I think (the Russians did it first). However, they didn't contain enough information to learn the entire Morse alphabet.

Finally, though, if you happened to be parked just outside Earth around this time, then it would have lit up the sky with RF...

You are probably right. We are looking more at the period after 1957 (Sputnik 1).

As FD insist on calling the UA an AEO, there seem to be a connection to the Apollo misions as well.

AEO was the code used for the Apollo Earth Orbit charts.

Like this one: http://history.nasa.gov/afj/launchwindow/figs/Apollo 11 AEO.jpg

Makes the trip a bit shorter :)
 
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I think that this shows that these player interaction things like the UA are really good for the game, good to generate community and good to generate press. FD, please do more of this!

Just wish the news articles would not copy-paste from galnet :p

You can't expect these journos to put as much as effort into their RL articles as we do into our RP stories ;)

After having worked in advertising sales in the print industry; the majority of copy writers I worked with are, unfortunately, exactly that...

There was a higher standard of English amongst the bloody sales staff :)

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You are probably right. We are looking more at the period after 1957 (Sputnik 1).

As FD insist on calling the UA an AEO, there seem to be a connection to the Apollo misions as well.

AEO was the code used for the Apollo Earth Orbit charts.

Like this one: http://history.nasa.gov/afj/launchwindow/figs/Apollo 11 AEO.jpg

Makes the trip a bit shorter :)

Yeah, now that's a good point! :D
 
I think that this shows that these player interaction things like the UA are really good for the game, good to generate community and good to generate press. FD, please do more of this!

Just wish the news articles would not copy-paste from galnet :p

People in the comment section are going bonkers about that scanner you have in the cargo hold :)

Priceless.
 
Apologies for the minor derail; I suddenly became more 'transient' than I hoped for over the last two months, and I finally have (proper) internet back on a machine I can actually play Elite on. I've kept on touch with some of the major events like 1.4 changing what the morse in the UA transmits, and MKJ's subsequent discovery (grats, btw!) but just wanted to get a really, really quick rundown of what's gone on to make sure I'm on-track with my understanding of things. Questions I have are:

- People seem to be *really* interested in the Aries Dark Region; what's triggered that?
- The UA points to Merope, that much seems to be taken as fact, but nothing's been discovered there yet?
- Spawns of free-floating UAs seem to have gone up a lot in some regions?
- Anything else major I've missed?

I'm reconsidering rejoining the hunt for a UA given the increased drop rate, but FD also put in my minor faction (Sitakapan Expeditionary Forces, in Sitakapa), and since I've been away, my home system is in shambles (despite it being an Imperial faction exploited by an Imperial power... more on that elsewhere), so I'm trying to balance participating in UA stuff, fighting Zemina Torval, and restoring my home.
 
So, on the topic of Morse code and the significance of Merope...

Can someone with more knowledge than me work out how many light years that Morse code would have traveled across the galaxy in the time between when it was transmitted on Sol and when the objects arrived (within a year or two would do fine).

We would then have a vector, extending the line from Sol, via Merope, to "some place" according to the distance those signals traveled in that time.

There's a much simpler explanation, surely? The UAs were first retransmitting Morse that was already out there - station names, nearby bodies etc. That's how <whatever their source is> learned it, and now they're using it as a low-bandwidth transmission protocol...presumably because they want us to find them.

Let's not forget that - IIRC - the original news articles suggested that the Thargoids knew nothing about them, they didn't appear to be alien in origin and they're really, really old.

I'm guessing it's a lost colony. BSG, anyone?
 
As I said few posts ago I'm almost sure that the new ships will hear the morse of the most similar ship: the Imperial Eagle will receive the morse of the Eagle.
The Assault Ship and the Gunship will hear the morse of the Dropship.

hang on these are all new ships in lore right, they've been released?
maybe the UA might be very interested in these at it has never seen them?
should we even give it this info ;)
 
People in the comment section are going bonkers about that scanner you have in the cargo hold :)

Priceless.

lol, we're getting new members from this
speaking to one now on teamspeak wanted to know about scanner and stuff! :D
we need an antique scanner rare commodity, now! :D
 
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Just parked up at Jaques Station for the night, having travelled 230 ly in a Clipper, scooping all the way with an Unknown Artifact eating away at my systems, and chased by pirates. Nice feeling to finally have one of my own.

A 'you did what?' alert!

Did a few deployment tests, I wanted to see if I could get a free utility mount very close to the UA, to see if the 'creature' attached to the outside of the UA feeding chamber would jump ship.

I know, many things have already been tried...

Another harebrained theory down... Plenty more to try!

The Black Market on Jaques was offering 150,000 credits for it. Not selling it at the moment.

 
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The Black Market on Jaques was offering 150,000 credits for it. Not selling it at the moment.

Anything less than 240,000 is a rip-off (and you don't need a blackmarket, even).


UA = blackmarket only since V1.2
Since V1.4 standard/flat price with menu failure (150,00 /200,00 ). Thanks Frontier! Average is a joke ...
UA illegal/stolen__150.000Cr
UA not stolen____200.000Cr
new_UA_price_V14.jpg

We salute you!

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After instant enquire from some CMDR's:
"Trinkets of hidden Fortune" seems now only "stolen" available ("Sealing the deal" or shoot out ). My amount is pre 1.4 ...

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"BOUGHT FOR 1CR PER ITEM (UA not stolen) is a mystery too and will not be spoilered from my side :D
 
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Is there an explanation or starter-post for what this latest UA breakthough is and what people did? The Galnet article is useless, and I've been skimming back through hundreds of messages here and there are so many different conversations crosstalking I haven't been able to figure out what actually happened. :-(
 
Is there an explanation or starter-post for what this latest UA breakthough is and what people did? The Galnet article is useless, and I've been skimming back through hundreds of messages here and there are so many different conversations crosstalking I haven't been able to figure out what actually happened. :-(

Basically the latest breakthrough by MKJ told us that the UAs switched from broadcasting location to ship schematics probably as a result of the introduced ua scan mechanic.
 
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