UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

Sevenperry · Oct 14, 2015

Jetdude said:
Ok so something weird just happened when I was in Merope. I jettisoned 2 UA but one pointed a different way. couldn't pin point were. as seen here.

https://i.imgur.com/BN2dxXd.jpg

and when I went to see what it was pointing at I went into Galaxy map and instead of showing me were I was at, I was welcome to this instead.

http://i.imgur.com/fKa7P72.jpg

Dont know if its a glitch or not but the tinfoil is strong in this one.

Maybe raise a ticket with query to FD bug reports?

rizal72 · Oct 14, 2015

Archvillain said:
Is there an explanation or starter-post for what this latest UA breakthough is and what people did? The Galnet article is useless, and I've been skimming back through hundreds of messages here and there are so many different conversations crosstalking I haven't been able to figure out what actually happened. :-(

unrealization · Oct 14, 2015

In case you guys are still looking for a place about 1.3 to 1.4 kly from Sol I'd like to offer the Orion Nebula.
According to WIkipedia it's 1344 lightyears from Earth, which would put it in just the right range.
Also, in greek mythology Orion has a connection to the Pleiades.

Han_Zen · Oct 14, 2015

unrealization said:
In case you guys are still looking for a place about 1.3 to 1.4 kly from Sol I'd like to offer the Orion Nebula.
According to WIkipedia it's 1344 lightyears from Earth, which would put it in just the right range.
Also, in greek mythology Orion has a connection to the Pleiades.

That is a very nice range.

I think the heading is a bit off the Sol - Merope line, but the UAs can off course have done a change of heading.

It would make a search more difficult though.

Han_Zen · Oct 14, 2015

I just wanted to post this particularly beautiful AEO from the Apollo 8 mission:

http://historical.ha.com/itm/transp...and-module-pilot-james-lovell/a/6087-40085.s#

I have no idea how this relates to to our AEOs, but it's a nice image.

Edit: Click the map for full resolution.

Bottom Hat · Oct 14, 2015

As you guys know I am new to this topic and thread, but I have found it absolutely fascinating. I haven't got myself a UA yet, and I am dubious that getting one at this point will help. However, I was thinking in terms of the post above where two UAs were dropped in Merope; One faced the star, and another in a different direction. I would like to propose in reinforcement of the above posts, that they are perhaps acting as signal relays.

Ergo, the Merope connection is a hub of sorts to receive signals from the UAs in our 'bubble' of space for want of a better phrase. Then the signals get bounced out of Merope using a second UA in a direction that as yet we haven't figured out. Is it possible that in Merope [as I haven't been], there will be a planetary body for this to occur, but until the 1.5 update, we physically cannot see the body, as I know many pilots have looked all around the system. Hence, could it be that there is a large receiving/transmitting object on the planet surface, that receives the transmissions from all over 'human' space, and then sends them back out again in a direction that we don't yet know. Perhaps we are not hearing the outgoing signals at the moment because FD haven't 'released' the planet for us to find.

It could be that where the guy above dropped two UAs into Merope, one points at the star, and the other points at the 'gap in space' where the planet will appear once 1.5 is live? I realise this is all theory, but it would make for some understanding of the conflicting directions of the UAs in Merope. To me, it could be useful to drop two again, and see what they do; combining this with the strange galaxy map results; and perhaps even drop more than 2 to see what they do. They could given a little bit of time, orientate themselves so that they somehow work synergistically. All theory as I said, but it would make prudent sense to try the dropping of more than one UA in to the Merope system, see what they do, how they talk, and what they do to the galaxy map and system maps; just in case we are overlooking the idea that they need more than one to reach the next level of functionality.

Now I shall take a back seat, and re-press myself a new bacofoil lid!!

Cheers, The Hat

unrealization · Oct 14, 2015

Han_Zen said:
I think the heading is a bit off the Sol - Merope line, but the UAs can off course have done a change of heading.

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but figured it's the only place that really makes sense. It was one of two locations that popped into my head last night, along with the Elephant's Trunk, which may be more in line, but it's too far away.
And I don't really see much reason why we would stick to looking for things in a straight line, other than convenience and limiting the search area.
Also, I think the mythological connection between Orion and the Pleiades lends a sliver of weight to support that Orion may be a good place to have look at.

If nobody else picks this up in the meantime I may just do this myself once I'm back. I was planning to go back to Orion some day anyway.

Special Circumstances · Oct 14, 2015

Looking at Orion on the gal map, it appears to have a massive number of close together star systems... might that be a good place for a star faring race to develop?

I've never been exploring before... I think this might be a reason.... Any tips on getting there?

Han_Zen · Oct 14, 2015

unrealization said:
I think the mythological connection between Orion and the Pleiades lends a sliver of weight to support that Orion may be a good place to have look at.

If nobody else picks this up in the meantime I may just do this myself once I'm back. I was planning to go back to Orion some day anyway.

Both the mythological connection and the distance are good and the heading is't that much of, is it?

It's as good as as it gets at this point, without any new discoveries.

Dommarraa · Oct 14, 2015

13000-14000ly isnt really a 'target' it is more of a maximum.
If you are go along the Sol/Merope line, California Nebula is a MUCH closer match. Add in that it is in the 1.3 Wings/UA Trailer, it seems a much better bet than Orion

Yes, we have been to California and poked about several times before, nobody has done it in 1.4 yet. Another thing added to my todo list.

ajwm · Oct 14, 2015

It would be interesting to know if there is actually more things to discover in 1.4 or was the UA behaviour the only thing they have tweaked for now? Care to step in Michael ???

Han_Zen · Oct 14, 2015

Dommarraa said:
13000-14000ly isnt really a 'target' it is more of a maximum.
If you are go along the Sol/Merope line, California Nebula is a MUCH closer match. Add in that it is in the 1.3 Wings/UA Trailer, it seems a much better bet than Orion

Yes, we have been to California and poked about several times before, nobody has done it in 1.4 yet. Another thing added to my todo list.

How far is California sector from Sol?

unrealization · Oct 14, 2015

Special Circumstances said:
Looking at Orion on the gal map, it appears to have a massive number of close together star systems... might that be a good place for a star faring race to develop?

I've never been exploring before... I think this might be a reason.... Any tips on getting there?

It's a pretty nice place to visit. I've been there quite a while ago and have always planned to visit again some day.
The Orion Nebula is what is known as a stellar nursery, a place where new stars are born. This may explain the density. Not so sure if a stellar nursery would be a good place for life forms to develop or settle though.

As for getting there: It's relatively straight-forward. Make sure you have a fuel scoop and then keep jumping. ;-)
On the way you can also pick up the Witchhead Nebula if you like. That might also help plotting the route.

Dommarraa said:
13000-14000ly isnt really a 'target' it is more of a maximum.
If you are go along the Sol/Merope line, California Nebula is a MUCH closer match. Add in that it is in the 1.3 Wings/UA Trailer, it seems a much better bet than Orion

Yes, we have been to California and poked about several times before, nobody has done it in 1.4 yet. Another thing added to my todo list.

Good point.
I nearly went by the California Nebula when I came back from NGC 7822, but then decided not to add yet another detour to a tour full of detours. Therefore it's a place I have yet to visit.
I might just combine that with the Orion trip. But first I've got to get home. 3 more weeks I reckon.

Special Circumstances · Oct 14, 2015

Slightly off-topic, just perusing the galaxy map in Realistic mode, what is the super bright white star next to * TET02 ORIONIS C that I can't select?

Edit:

Also, any particular reason why the focus is on nebula?

unrealization · Oct 14, 2015

Special Circumstances said:
Also, any particular reason why the focus is on nebula?

The first floaters were found in or near the Pleiades Nebula.
Also: If we don't focus on something in particular we end up having to check 400 billion star systems. ;-)
Finally: As Dommarraa mentioned, the California Nebula was featured in the Wings trailer, which also featured the first hints to the UA.

Ratking15 · Oct 14, 2015

Special Circumstances said:
Slightly off-topic, just perusing the galaxy map in Realistic mode, what is the super bright white star next to * TET02 ORIONIS C that I can't select?

Edit:

Also, any particular reason why the focus is on nebula?

Usually when you can't target the star and it doesn't appear as a seperate system in the map view, it's usually a star inside the system that's a bit away from the main one you drop in on.

Dommarraa · Oct 14, 2015

Han_Zen said:
How far is California sector from Sol?

About 650ly from Varati, so less than 1 Kylie from Sol

CMDR Sheehy · Oct 14, 2015

Is there any connection to the Thargoids, the UA and ECMs going belly up. Didn't the ECM technology stop working or something early on?

PS - Hi Doomlord!!!

Ian Skippy · Oct 14, 2015

I'm new to all this, but its incredibly fascinating! Big thanks to all of you who have been uncovering all of this.

From what little I've understood, I'm going for the following 'theory', based on the latest and greatest high-tech guessing:

The UA is from human origin, designed in secret in the period during or slightly after the Thargoid war. Its an early-warning device, and scans for non-human activities, technologies or objects (ships, bases). When it scans our ships, it doesn't do anything because it doesn't trigger the non-human part. It is pointing to Merope for one of these three reasons:

1) Non-human activity has been detected in/near Merope through some kind of faint radiation.
2) There is a hidden base/ship that serves/served as HQ for the project at Merope.
3) It serves as a relay point of sorts that eventuqally leads to either #1 or #2.

I consider the third the most likely, also from a gameplay perspective: to chase this lead we might need many UA, and there is an increase in UA being found. Some questions: What happens if you drop three or more UA at Merope? And what happens if you add one or more AA to the mix? Does the UA scan the AA in any way?

DialBforBiscuit · Oct 14, 2015

The people I thought were grabbing the medical research haven't done it yet, and aren't going to any time soon. So this is a call-out to anyone who wants a good smash and grab mission to get that research. If you want to do that, send me a PM. This will probably happen between 6PM-11PM EST (I forget what game time is, sorry.)

Here's what I know, and it may not be 100% accurate. Anyone who can correct me, please do so.

Strong signal sources within Pleiades(?) have a 'Medical Convoy' within them.
On arrival they say something on the lines of "Cargo secured".
Ships: 1 Python, 4 Vultures.
The python is carrying the research.

Yeah, its not a lot of info. Here's a picture of the python scanned. (Source)

Once again, PM me if you're interested and we'll make this happen.
[h=1][/h]