Is switching between open and solo play to gain new missions considered a punishable exploit?

Marra Morgan

Marra Morgan
I wouldn't do it myself, I prefer to play with the hand I'm dealt, so to speak :)

But it makes no odds to me if anyone else does it and I'd be shocked if anyone was punished for it!
 

lysan

lysan
Xenharmonic said:
Hi.
I would just like to know if switching between solo and open play (quitting to menu) after accepting missions is considered a punishable exploit or not, or whether it's fine to do this.

Edit: I'm aware that in general switching games modes is fine, this thread is in regards to accepting missions on one mode, quickly switching and so on until your journal has a massive number of missions, netting you a much bigger profit.
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No, its perfectly legit and supported by FD.

Just embraces it and move on, I did.
 

Von Shadow

Von Shadow
We have had to do the same in RES to get a decent roll of the RNG since as long as i can remember .... this is either rapid jump in / out or quit-to-menu and back in ..... is this an exploit?

BB is no better but no worse ....results in a (player) desired result and the ability to earn credits
The fact we have to do it says more about something being wrong in the core mechanic than an exploit .... We shouldn't have to do this .... we should be able to dock and find a selection of quality missions and not just a single one and a dozen piece of crap 4000Cr missions....

There's no scalaing still
 

Serapo

Serapo
Apparently it is not considered an exploit.

But it is a lame and lazy way of playing the game, isn't it?

After all it is not about the amount of credits you made during x period of time. It is about the style points you get while earning a little credits on the side.
 

Soliluna

Soliluna
Highlightshadow said:
We have had to do the same in RES to get a decent roll of the RNG since as long as i can remember .... this is either rapid jump in / out or quit-to-menu and back in ..... is this an exploit?

BB is no better but no worse ....results in a (player) desired result and the ability to earn credits
The fact we have to do it says more about something being wrong in the core mechanic than an exploit .... We shouldn't have to do this .... we should be able to dock and find a selection of quality missions and not just a single one and a dozen piece of crap 4000Cr missions....

There's no scalaing still
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You don't "have" to. I definitely don't do it lol

You WANT to do it, and do it.

Nothing wrong with that. You're metagaming.
 

Jukelo

Jukelo
Lysander lysan said:
No, its perfectly legit and supported by FD.

Just embraces it and move on, I did.
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If quickly regenerating missions was supported by FD, I'm fairly confident they woul have given us a 'reroll missions' button instead of this contrived method.

No, this is merely a side effect of mode switching and the way missions are generated. Exploiting it is probably way down the list of what can be considered as cheating, but to call it 'perfectly legit and supported by FD' is pushing it.
 
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Von Shadow

Von Shadow
Soliluna said:
You don't "have" to. I definitely don't do it lol

You WANT to do it, and do it.

Nothing wrong with that. You're metagaming.
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Yes i want to do it because i want something with a challenge not just a sidey or eagle every few minutes....
Low level eagles/sidies do not represent 'High Intensity'
Yes i know that the RES weren't technically invented to provide bounty but thats how they came out so make them at least fitting with the title...
At least now in 1.4 they're getting there (Haz Res is at least now entertaining with the occasional challenge)

Missions / BB has been naff since day 1 .... offering high ranked traders/pilots with massive ships capable of so much pittiful "take 4t of clothes next door"
 

Hell Razor5543

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There were (to the best of my knowledge) 2 exceptions so far are to mode switching (although I could be wrong). The first was for the Elite completion that FD ran, in that the first people to Elite (after clearing their saves) got prize money (£1,000 for Elite in either Combat, Trading, or Exploring, and £10,000 to the first who achieved the triple without trying for the lesser prize money), and the second was when NVidia offered a Titan Graphics Card for the first 5 players to sell one at their station (they did not say where you could find them), which probably ended up with pirates camping out there. Both competitions were Open Play only.
 

Banana's_Are_Good_For_You

Banana's_Are_Good_For_You
Funny thread.
Mode switching is allowed as it's part of the game. What is questionable is mode switching just to access more missions. This would effectively break any timed release of such missions which would effectively break the game as in how it is "supposed" to be played.
Can't say it's something I would consider doing but having read the forums there seems to be a lot of "players" who seem to think it's acceptable.
Kids today huh...and probably some Adults lurking around doing this to.

The problem may lie in how much of an affect it has on the game itself and if FD are forced into having to deal with it in a way that will detract from the game. I'm hopeful this won't happen.
However, as has been seen in other games it may come to be said that this is why we can't have nice things...

Personally, I would consign everyone abusing this to 1,000lys of trading bio-waste in a stock sidewinder (max 10ly FSD). No other missions, no profit, not means to make any form of money, always at a loss and constantly harassed by Elite pilots. Every time they die, -32,000 creds.

I can see this post going down well.
:D

It not gonna stop me playing the game so I don't really care. I was just feeling particularly evil when typing this.
 

Steve72

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Perhaps im the only one with the opinion: if the game has been coded to allow an action then no exploit and certainly not punnishable.

If your tinkering with altering program code because you can. I.e hack etc then this is an exploit and you should be severely punnished.

Poor game mechanics by design of course people will `play` the game how they want.

If people dont like other people doing it and making millions eitherdo It yourself or maybe just play the game how you want And forget what what others are doing.
 

Crimson Kaim

Crimson Kaim
I would say no for one single reason:

There is no rule forbidding it. :)


But in my opinion it should be 'okay', but why is this even a thing?
 

Hamakua

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It is not as if you read through the Charity Mission/Navy grinding threads where this technique was essentially born support acknowledge that it is a technique to grind naval ranks. They advise against it in the spirit of saying Naval ranks shouldn't be seen as something you grind for and instead should be seen as something that naturally happens over your gameplay career - but they don't prohibit it.

There used to be much "worse" exploits that weren't prohibited/punished (but were patched out). Expect to see the sothis earning technique nerfed in either this Thursday or the next.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
I guess there are exploits and there are exploits....... Doing what OP is suggesting harms no one, and I find nothing offensive by it...

On the other hand it is hard to argue that it is not good game mechanics, and the game would be better if it had other less "gamey" ways of taking on the missions, even if once all is said and done the profit earnings were to remain the same.
 

DanTheMan

DanTheMan
Not in any way prohibited, part of the games inherent design.
Hint: Make all your money in the relative safety of Solo if you feel so inclined. It avoids all the children who just want to shoot things up for no reason.
 
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robberer

robberer
Snowdog said:
I have to laugh openly at people that forget its a game, it is meant to be fun. Do whatever makes it fun for you and don't worry about others. Of course that is only true as long as your actions are not directly effect other players game play.
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^^This a thousand times

Log into or Log out of the game with in-game mechanics whenever you want. It's your game and it's your time . Most poeple who moan about exploits doesn't really know what they talk about all the time.

HAVE FUN.
 
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Cyda

Cyda
No, it is not an exploit. It is resetting the instances in the same way as you can in other games, e.g, in guildwars you would go out of an instance and back in to reset it, in WoW you can do it from the player icons. This is no different, it just does it is a clunky method.
 
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