UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
b_laiskiainen said:
But did we think of the offshoot civilizations back then?

What if those people actually settled somewhere, developed a whole different civilization and tech, and the UA are theirs?
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I dont know what these lost civilisations could be. AFAIK all Colony ships have been accounted for, and even if not, they were heading to stars very close to Sol, nothing like Merope was possible until very recently.
If you are inventing alien abductions into this without any suggestion in Elite Lore, then help yourself to some tin foil.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Dommarraa said:
I dont know what these lost civilisations could be. AFAIK all Colony ships have been accounted for, and even if not, they were heading to stars very close to Sol, nothing like Merope was possible until very recently.
If you are inventing alien abductions into this without any suggestion in Elite Lore, then help yourself to some tin foil.
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If a colony ship of old would start to drift, they could easily end up 250LY away centuries later I think. Going to Merope wasn't possible in a reasonable amount of time. But a lot more time has spend than whatever anyone could have previously considered reasonable. If these colony ships were self-sustaining, they could be anywhere.
 
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b_laiskiainen

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Dommarraa said:
I dont know what these lost civilisations could be. AFAIK all Colony ships have been accounted for, and even if not, they were heading to stars very close to Sol, nothing like Merope was possible until very recently.
If you are inventing alien abductions into this without any suggestion in Elite Lore, then help yourself to some tin foil.
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Did I say anything about abductions?

I'm referring to the story on Galnet some weeks back about some old exploration/colony ship that is 1. crossing the bubble, 2. travelling at sub-lightspeed, so is impossible to intercept, 3. Doesn't respond to comms.

I'd look it up if I was on the 'puter.

Also, I'll have the tin foil, thanks.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
b_laiskiainen said:
But did we think of the offshoot civilizations back then?

What if those people actually settled somewhere, developed a whole different civilization and tech, and the UA are theirs?
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In FFE there was a mass exoduus of about 150 million people that left federation systems to live in bubble ships. These were huge spinning balls that traveled with a steady 1G acceleration.
The ide was to live between systems and only mine Ort clouds for reaction mass on rare ocations.

These ships were only in the news. They were never seen.

Pont is that there are a lot of humans unacounted for in space, but only a few will have gotten as far as the Pleiades.

The Mayflower 97 left earth in 2097 and was last reported to have a speed of 0.6C, so who knows?
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
Han_Zen said:
In FFE there was a mass exoduus of about 150 million people that left federation systems to live in bubble ships. These were huge spinning balls that traveled with a steady 1G acceleration.
The ide was to live between systems and only mine Ort clouds for reaction mass on rare ocations.

These ships were only in the news. They were never seen.

Pont is that there are a lot of humans unacounted for in space, but only a few will have gotten as far as the Pleiades.

The Mayflower 97 left earth in 2097 and was last reported to have a speed of 0.6C, so who knows?
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+1 the 97 could have theoretically traveled over 700 Ly in that time.
 

MetroidSlayerP7

MetroidSlayerP7
Audiophiles and sound engineers have been known to hide visual images inside the sound spectrum, and so I figured this test was worth a shot. I ran 60 seconds of the UA sound (mp3 quality, from YouTube) through spectrogram software. It's very basic, and not very clean. I didn't find what I was hoping for (an actual picture of something), but there are interesting parallel lines in there. Is this worth further exploration? Any sound engineers out there who can do a better job than me? ED UA Sound - clip.wma.png
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
who? said:
With time dilation, how much time would have passed for them at that speed? I'd guess at 0.6c it wouldn't be hugely different, 600-700 years perhaps?
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Great point they'd be more likely to be at earlier "generations" than the rest of humanity in theory making it more likely that survivors are there... providing the equipment didn't fail at some point in time.
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
who? said:
With time dilation, how much time would have passed for them at that speed? I'd guess at 0.6c it wouldn't be hugely different, 600-700 years perhaps?
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I don't think time dilation is that great at 0.6c and most of the time, the ship would be travelling even slower than that. I think you'd have to be nearly 0.9 before time starter to pass at only half the rate relative to a stationary observer. It goes up rather exponentially from there.
 
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who?

who?
sleutelbos said:
isnt it the other way around: five months passed for every year for us?
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If it's five months (them) to every year (us) at 0.6c (not certain, I was guesstimating the dilation at that speed) that means that if 1,200 years have passed from our perspective, then about 500 years have passed from theirs. I think.

If they could somehow instantly zap back to the bubble today, their technology would probably seem 700 years out of date to us. But more likely, gone off on a different direction because of a relatively limited population and skillset, limited resources and differing needs. Unless they encountered others out there, who could have shared resources and technologies with them.
 

rizal72

rizal72
MetroidSlayerP7 said:
Audiophiles and sound engineers have been known to hide visual images inside the sound spectrum, and so I figured this test was worth a shot. I ran 60 seconds of the UA sound (mp3 quality, from YouTube) through spectrogram software. It's very basic, and not very clean. I didn't find what I was hoping for (an actual picture of something), but there are interesting parallel lines in there. Is this worth further exploration? Any sound engineers out there who can do a better job than me?View attachment 68220
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It's been widely done in the past threads.
There is even a full specific thread, now dead, of Audio Analisys from lots of audio engineers ;)
 

Popov Le Magnifique

Popov Le Magnifique
rizal72 said:
Yes, the Antares incident: a huge Colony spaceship, lost in space somewhere...
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I know where it is, a fellow CMDR will help me find it. Nobody cared about the CG on SS1 and Antares seems deeply linked to it. So first I need to find Antares, and then I'll find Halsey.

rizal72 said:
Hello Popov, just to point that the UA was found both in Federal and in Empire Convoys.... I remember it well, and it's in the wiki.
Still not sure about the Alliance...
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Hi riz@l! Yeah, I remembered that afterwards as well, I'm disappointed. :( (Did they appear as "IMPERIAL SECURITY SERVICE" ?) I had my whole conspiration theory well structured, except for these two bits of info. xD Oh well.
 
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Patau82

Patau82
Cmd Delmonte said:
If were going after the cargo I suggest we take out the escorts, disable the python and grab "All" the contents of the hold. it may be the combination of cargo
is significant.

Always wanted to do this with a UA convoy but never got the chance.
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plan sounds good! searching for one in an empty system near Varati will be good, that way we avoid a bounty and can sell spare loot
this is exciting, brings back memories of the great UA hunt :D
 
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