If you can't hit anything with a C4 PA aside from NPC Condas you have terrible aim. One or two shots from a PA annihilate FAS shields before your SCBs do anything.
FAS vs FDL turn rates and ramming tested
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FAS is a gamechanger. We just need to deal with it (just bought one before they make it harder to get)
FDL owners club will hate it, FED's will love it, and poor will be clicking red button 'buy' over and over
What will the emperor (empress)say when most Imperial Cmdr's fly in a FAS. She will probably summon all the Gutayama R&D team and lock them in the tower untill they build a combat ship with good hardpoints which does not overheat.
While I plan to "upgrade" my FDL for an FAS as soon as I get the ranking (better jump range is the main selling point, better turning seals the deal), I think it's flat out silly to claim that 2 large and 2 medium hardpoints is more "practical" than 1 huge and 4 mediums.
People constantly seem to both underrate medium weapons and forget that the huge hardpoint can fit larges as well if you don't like what's on offer in huge.
People constantly seem to both underrate medium weapons and forget that the huge hardpoint can fit larges as well if you don't like what's on offer in huge.
FAS is a gamechanger. We just need to deal with it (just bought one before they make it harder to get
FDL owners club will hate it, FED's will love it, and poor will be clicking red button 'buy' over and over
As much as I prefer the Empire, I really am glad that the Feds finally got a really good ship, as it's really leveled the playing field between the Empire and Federation.
You cant really ram with the FAS because max non prismatic shields is like 400mj, It does howver have great hull an flying with no shield could be good.
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doesn't seem too hard to get a FdL with 750 MJ shield, banks and lasers going.
doesn't seem too hard to get a FdL with 750 MJ shield, banks and lasers going.
Unlikely - FAS is an out-and-out combat ship, Python is a multi-purpose ship.
That's why the Python was nerfed, not because it was good, but that it was better than dedicated combat ship on the combat role.
FDL would be good again if they introduce more Class 4 gears (Class 4 lasers, etc). It is just not good atm because Class 4 slots is not good more than anything.
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Strong words!!! Unconvinced though. FDL is a compromise of a ship, yet FAS looks like an even bigger one if you try putting it up there against the big snakes. Equal firepower, but weaker shields and weaker shield pool (single recharge) - that's the story. Manoeuvrability goes out of the window when you put these two ships against each other with straight hands on both sides and judicial FA off at your disposal.
800 MJ + 2x 4A boosters is what I use and would still bet on FDL coming on top even it uses 500-600 MJ combat load out.
A little entertainment from Morbad, got it off his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THjNaZm3DPI
I am still going to stick with the FDL, I have fought FAS in PvP and they usually do not last long.
It does seem kind of off that the FDL has lower grade internals compared to a ship that costs less than half. These are both combat ships, so why is the FDL so gimped especially on power given it has a c4 weapon?
The FDL is the most blatant case but I think most if not all ships need to be rebalanced and reworked. Here's hoping that 1.5 adds some balance instead of just throwing more ships at the problem. The real balance needs to come from getting rid of these horrible general stats that are the same to every ship, such as shield regen or how a powerplant gives the same power no matter the ship, or how the weight goes up on modules exponentially (seriously what is the condas sensors made out of, neutron star matter?).
The FDL is the most blatant case but I think most if not all ships need to be rebalanced and reworked. Here's hoping that 1.5 adds some balance instead of just throwing more ships at the problem. The real balance needs to come from getting rid of these horrible general stats that are the same to every ship, such as shield regen or how a powerplant gives the same power no matter the ship, or how the weight goes up on modules exponentially (seriously what is the condas sensors made out of, neutron star matter?).
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Is playing a video game about pew-pew space ships mature?
It is exactly as mature as you make it. There is nothing inherently immature about a video game, only a player.
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I love kind of players who you fight on this video. Elite rank grinded on NPC and gimballs
He just let you to drop his shields, a good PvPer will dont. Or he just have a poor or test build with a weak shields.Cannons are not efficient for shields. I am not a follower of gimballs because they can be easily evaded by double chaff.
Have you tried a set with 1 c4 cannon, 2 c2 cannon and 2x beam fixed? A firepower against hull will be similar, but better for shields.
800 MJ and 2x4A linked or you need toggling in the middle of fight?
And 5A + 2A boosters will give you 650 MJ, not 800 - you have also 3 chaffs and 1 heatsink. Unless you got 5A prismatic, it will give 780, but in that case cellbank will not be powered up.
Toggling a SCB for get 160 MJ boost is a nonse, because in meantime of switching enemy will drop your shields at all.
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No matter what, the FAS will win in my book because it doesn't have that gosh... Darn... WINDOW STRUT right in your face! Seriously?! What were they thinking with that?! That dumb strut completely turned me off that ship (which I otherwise think is awesome). I would pay a load of credits for a cockpit remodel that either put the captain's chair in the center, or at least changed the cockpit glass structure.
Its really pilot skill at the end of the day.
Its nice to have a viable alternative to the FdL for pursuit PvP.
Its nice to have a viable alternative to the FdL for pursuit PvP.
On a ship that's not exactly perfect in the first place, it's a minor annoyance too far. I could probably have got used to the flight and the funny gun but I had to sell it cos of the cockpit. Maybe I'm just OCD but I really appreciate a symmetrical cockpit view.