CQC Am I the only one exited for the Imp Fighter?

SuperNova15

SuperNova15
Seriously, I've heard no one bring it up anywhere. Meanwhile, I can't wait to give it a spin and I don't even play cqc that much(yet).
Also its a first look at another ship that may come to open with the condor in 2.2.
 
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Arubeto

Arubeto
You are absolutely not alone! I am totally stoked about it!

I enjoy CQC quite a bit, am even playing it more than the normal game recently. Therefore - even though I can't wait for the Cutter - the Imperial Fighter for CQC is actually the ship I am most looking forward to! I think it has a great and unique style (width > length) and given that the Condor is my favorite ship in CQC so far thanks to it's superior agility, but I'd like to stick to my favorite faction, the Empire, I couldn't be more happy that we will be able to fly the Imperial Fighter in CQC, soon! :)

Btw.: there are a few people like us, looking forward to the Imperial Fighter in CQC, in this thread: The Ships of CQC

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SuperNova15

SuperNova15
Arubeto said:
You are absolutely not alone! I am totally stoked about it!

I enjoy CQC quite a bit, am even playing it more than the normal game recently. Therefore - even though I can't wait for the Cutter - the Imperial Fighter for CQC is actually the ship I am most looking forward to! I think it has a great and unique style (width > length) and given that the Condor is my favorite ship in CQC so far thanks to it's superior agility, but I'd like to stick to my favorite faction, the Empire, I couldn't be more happy that we will be able to fly the Imperial Fighter in CQC, soon! :)

Btw.: there are a few people like us, looking forward to the Imperial Fighter in CQC, in this thread: The Ships of CQC
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Hmm. The dimensions given on that pic are interesting. I found a simular pic of the F63 Condor.
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If this is acurate then the Condor has an area of 403.5 meters, but the Imperial Fighter only has 158. I knew it would be smaller but thats a big difference.
Now I want to see the Imp Fighter fly circles around the Condor like the condor flies circles around the Sidewinder. :D
 

Foxiol Eagle

Foxiol Eagle
I wish and hope that also deep into Horizons's season we also can fly them in the base game.

Don't forget we are going to be able to carry one of these ships inside of the bigger ones. (NPC piloted or/and for us as well) Imagine dropping an Imperial Fighter from an Imperial Cutter. That is going to be so awesome!!

Also love the model of that thing, and all imperial ships. We fly with style baby! ;)
 

Arubeto

Arubeto
I wonder where the Imperial Fighter will fit in compared to the already available ships (stats taken from CQC load-out screens):

ShipTop SpeedBoost SpeedManoeuvrabilityShieldsArmour
F63 Condor5/106/109/103/104/10
Sidewinder4/106/106/106/108/10
Eagle5/106/108/104/105/10

I guess it won't have higher manoeuvrability than the Condor, but given the relatively low speed values of the other ships, the Imp Fighter could indeed become the fastest ship, in turning having even thinner shields and armour than the Condor. I reckon it could look something like this:

ShipTop SpeedBoost SpeedManoeuvrabilityShieldsArmour
Imperial Fighter6/107/109/102/103/10

What do you guys think?
 
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SuperNova15

SuperNova15
Foxiol Eagle said:
I wish and hope that also deep into Horizons's season we also can fly them in the base game.

Don't forget we are going to be able to carry one of these ships inside of the bigger ones. (NPC piloted or/and for us as well) Imagine dropping an Imperial Fighter from an Imperial Cutter. That is going to be so awesome!!

Also love the model of that thing, and all imperial ships. We fly with style baby! ;)
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I'm curious how they will add fighters to the main game. Right now the Eagle has the max maneuverability and some other ships have the max speed. The fighters will only be useful if they dwarf the others in both. So maybe the devs will give the maneuver/speed bars a tweak before fighters are added. Or maybe fighters will have their own separate stat bar.
 

Arubeto

Arubeto
SuperNova15 said:
I think it's speed will be more like an 8. Given it's disadvantage in most other areas.
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You don't know its disadvantage "in most other areas", yet. FD hasn't released any stats for it. It could very well be slower, but have more firepower than the Condor, for all we know.

I think an 8 in top speed would be to much of an imbalance.

Perhaps the numbers don't do justice the real differences between the ships. The Condor has only one more point in manoeuvrability than the Eagle, but is vastly more agile when compared in the game.

A top speed of 8 would probably mean it has to be extremely weak in some other essential stat, for example in shields, that it probably would need to lose after the first hit for an 8 in speed to be justified, which I think couldn't be balanced meaningful.
 
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SuperNova15

SuperNova15
Arubeto said:
You don't know its disadvantage "in most other areas", yet. FD hasn't released any stats for it. It could very well be slower, but have more firepower than the Condor, for all we know.

I think an 8 in top speed would be to much of an imbalance.

Perhaps the numbers don't do justice the real differences between the ships. The Condor has only one more point in manoeuvrability than the Eagle, but is vastly more agile when compared in the game.

A top speed of 8 would probably mean it has to be extremely weak in some other essential stat, for example in shields, that it probably would need to lose after the first hit for an 8 in speed to be justified, which I think couldn't be balanced meaningful.
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Well it is less than half the size of a condor so assuming its shields and hull are much lower is reasonable. The only way to make up for that is much higher speed.
 
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Arubeto

Arubeto
SuperNova15 said:
Well it is less than half the size of a condor so assuming its shields and hull are much lower is reasonable. The only way to make up for that is much higher speed.
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I think our opinions on the matter are very similar - should the Imp. Fighter be made of paper, that shortcoming should be balanced by giving him more agility or speed - we just differ in our assessment of what the specific numbers should be.

Lets wait and see what the stream this evening will reveal (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=198533), perhaps Sandro will give us some more details on the Empire Fighter! :)
 

Arubeto

Arubeto
Kind of disappointed they didn't show it during todays stream. :(

I mean, it's kind of difficult to get a good look at them in the main game right now...
 

Arubeto

Arubeto
Ok, now we got the answer: the Imperial Short Range Fighter has indeed very similar stats to the Federal Fighter. Shield one point weaker, armour one point stronger is everything that's different.

So we get the following complete table:

ShipTop SpeedBoost SpeedManoeuvrabilityShieldsArmour
F63 Condor5/106/109/103/104/10
Sidewinder4/106/106/106/108/10
Eagle5/106/108/104/105/10
Imperial Fighter5/106/109/104/103/10

Should be fun to fly! :)

Edit: sadly, no one seems to play CQC in the beta. Have yet to find a match :(

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