WAIT UNTIL OCCULUS COMES OUT BEFORE CHOOSING .............. ANYTHINGit's a DK (Developers Kit) @ the moment
Overpriced
Poor resolution
Grunt required to drive the gear is way over normal spec
let the nerds, sponsored by work and rich kids play and naff it up before committing your money.......
Spec' for new PC aimed at Elite Dangerous + VR
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Replace the SSD with an m.2 PCIe solution, it is physically a lot smaller and not much more cash, but the data rates are much higher (2000MB read, 650MB write at cheapest option), as it is not limited by the SATA bus.
Details here: http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer...-ssd/solid-state-drives-(ssd-pcie)128gb-512gb
m.2 is definitely going in my next PC!
Details here: http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer...-ssd/solid-state-drives-(ssd-pcie)128gb-512gb
m.2 is definitely going in my next PC!
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Warning: if you get an NVMe variant of m.2 SSDs, you will have a real struggle to install Windows 7 on it (if, like me, you're stubborn and are very unimpressed by 8/10).
There is no built-in support for NVMe in 7, and the only format in which MS provides their official drivers is an EXE (so helpful when you need to install an OS on the SSD in question).
I'd expect the AHCI variants to work out-of-the-box, since there's built-in support for AHCI in 7.
With that said... Once I got over that pain, I agree, the speeds and latency are silly good. Having it sat on the motherboard not in its own slot was also helpful from a space point-of-view.
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WAIT UNTIL OCCULUS COMES OUT BEFORE CHOOSING .............. ANYTHING
it's a DK (Developers Kit) @ the moment
Overpriced
Poor resolution
Grunt required to drive the gear is way over normal spec
let the nerds, sponsored by work and rich kids play and naff it up before committing your money.......
Reading between the lines, errr ... I think I agree.
I am absolutely waiting until a non-DK version is released (possibly not even version 1.0 ... spending lots of money on version 1.0 of anything is usually unwise). Possibly not even Occulus actually (which it pains me to say because I was such a fan in the early days). And re: grunt ... I do indeed have a slight hope that, in making the Occulus suitable for the mass market, one of the things they will (surely?) look at is lowering the minimum spec' in order to sell as many units as possible.
Anyway ... don't want to derail all this sexy talk about large SSDs, platinum certified PSUs and independent rails (phwooar) with too much Occulus stuff.
By the way, nobody's commented on what sort of Thermal Paste I should go for!
Seriously tho' ... really appreciating all this input.
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Well, I myself have been waiting for a couple of years now and i decided to wait a bit longer for the consumer versions + reviews. As for the GPU, i want to wait for the NVIDIA Pascal architecture cards somewhere next year (2016). By that time, Elite will come up with some tasty updates
Yes, I had seen that and should have mentioned that to the others in this post. The AHCI variants are similar in speed and price on that page, so that is always an option for OP.
Since my 'new' PC (whenever that will be), will be designed to last a few years, I'll be putting Windows 10 on it at that point, so I don't expect this to cause any issues.
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Problem is, lowering the minimum spec is exactly the same as lowering the resolution/fidelity. The HTC Vive (which as far as I know has the same resolution as the Oculus CV1 is speculated to have) is still slightly too low-resolution for my tastes (for E:D at least with its detailed HUD), and that's already the equivalent of 2400x1080 at 75fps. So, ideally they'd like to go higher, but at the same time that's bumping the requirements. Tricky problem.
Arctic Silver 5, accept no substitute.By the way, nobody's commented on what sort of Thermal Paste I should go for!
Yeah, it won't be a problem for most people... I just spent most of a day getting 7 installed on mine, so thought I'd share.
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I'm given to understand the GTX 970 should be sufficient for the Oculus consumer release.
Arctic Silver 5.By the way, nobody's commented on what sort of Thermal Paste I should go for!
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WAIT UNTIL OCCULUS COMES OUT BEFORE CHOOSING .............. ANYTHINGit's a DK (Developers Kit) @ the moment
Overpriced
Poor resolution
Grunt required to drive the gear is way over normal spec
let the nerds, sponsored by work and rich kids play and naff it up before committing your money.......
Now is certainly not the time to buy a /dk2 (mine is on ebay if interested
to OP, I got a new psu 12 months ago, I thought 650w would be fine. I am regretting it now as I am considering SLI for VR. I would say 800W gold rated is a good baseline to consider. IF you are convinced you will never SLI, then 650w is ok, but, as I learned....... never say never.
AFAIK GTX 970 is the official minimum supported spec... I highly doubt it will be sufficient to play games at full bubble however. I have a GTX980 and fully expecting to be making compromises unless i replace it or SLI it.
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Agree with others that you should go Skylake on a new build for stuff like USB 3.1. You'll struggle to do a balanced 980 TI build for a grand, maybe buy a 970 in the meantime and wait to see what Oculus/Vive need once released. You want more wattage but no need to go overboard, 750W is plenty.
Have a look at this build, play around with options there:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/fpv3P6
Have a look at this build, play around with options there:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/fpv3P6
For anyone else putting together a new PC build just wanted to say there's a really good little guide over here ...
http://choosemypc.net/buildguide/
http://choosemypc.net/buildguide/
That's already out of date
No mention of Skylake, latest AMD cards, Windows 10. But the basics are fine though dunno if anyone has read the latest from the VIVE, but they have promised launch price to be under...... 1000 euros <gulp>
whislt it is true £500 IS technically under 1000 euros (so is £10), it could well be a lot of people are gonna be disappointed with the vives cost on launch day.
I would say £700 is a very real possibility.
http://www.fudzilla.com/reviews/39226-htc-vive-headset-previewed?start=1
whislt it is true £500 IS technically under 1000 euros (so is £10), it could well be a lot of people are gonna be disappointed with the vives cost on launch day.
I would say £700 is a very real possibility.
http://www.fudzilla.com/reviews/39226-htc-vive-headset-previewed?start=1
That's already out of date
Indeed, I should have mentioned that. Good common sense stuff nonetheless which has helped to improve my understanding of a whole bunch of things. Incidentally, Skylake is Intel's 6th generation CPU ... but what does that have to do with USB 3.1. I'm guessing it's more to do with the supporting chipset right?
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My main concern would be the 550W PSU, running PSU's anywhere close to there limit is asking for trouble.
This top of the line http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/corsair-rm750x-review/ would be perfect but any named 750 PSU would suffice, If budget is an issue (it was for me) I have a similar set up, use 2x4GB memory instead (8GB is all you will ever need), and use the savings for the PSU.
I did upgrade to Window 10 from 7 with no unwanted side effects.
Good Luck with your build CMDR.
Bigger PSU, 6th generation Intel and a bigger SSD. Other than that everything looks fine, especially your choice of manufacturers. However you should take a look at a bequiet PSU, IMO they are unmatched.
Thanks for posting. I've not seen that on any of the VR-dedicated websites (including those that have recently interviewed HTC) but it seems genuine.
Based on that I agree £700 (or near to it) is certainly possible. I think they would be foolish to price it any higher than £550 tops. I was expecting something like £500 (and hoping for £450). But I guess they can rely on the early adopters adopting early and then the price will gradually fall over the following months. I was hoping to be one of the early adopters but I don't think I could justify spending any more than £550, no matter how good it is.
I've been planning/thinking-about a VR/4K PC for a while, but have come to the conclusion that I may as well wait. The minimum spec graphics card (GTX970) isn't too far off top whack which doesn't give much opportunity to buy something better than minimum without spending a fortune. As someone else has mentioned by the time the Oculus comes out hopefully card prices will have come down and we'll have a good idea of what sort of graphics power we need to run Elite. Which is all that matters, right?
As another poster suggested you could always build the PC minus a top notch graphics card and then upgrade later. I can second the GTX 750 Ti, it runs Elite fine at 1920 x 1080 and doesn't use much power. Although if you're planning a PC with a PSU that will be able to run multiple high end cards in SLI one of the cheaper AMD cards might give better bang for the buck, with the caveat that some people are having driver issues with Windows 10.
Be careful with just looking at the Wattage a PSU is rated at. What really counts is how many Amps it can support on the various rails. For example my PC came with a cheapo "850 W" PSU that couldn't run a 5770 without causing crashes (hence the 750 Ti). However, I think that if you buy a decent make, Corsair, bequiet, Seasonic etc you should be fine. My next upgrade will probably be the PSU and I will future proof by buying a decent, beefy one.
Edit: Get a bigger SSD for your OS/Games, I had a 128 GB one and it didn't take long for it to be a pain.
As another poster suggested you could always build the PC minus a top notch graphics card and then upgrade later. I can second the GTX 750 Ti, it runs Elite fine at 1920 x 1080 and doesn't use much power. Although if you're planning a PC with a PSU that will be able to run multiple high end cards in SLI one of the cheaper AMD cards might give better bang for the buck, with the caveat that some people are having driver issues with Windows 10.
Be careful with just looking at the Wattage a PSU is rated at. What really counts is how many Amps it can support on the various rails. For example my PC came with a cheapo "850 W" PSU that couldn't run a 5770 without causing crashes (hence the 750 Ti). However, I think that if you buy a decent make, Corsair, bequiet, Seasonic etc you should be fine. My next upgrade will probably be the PSU and I will future proof by buying a decent, beefy one.
Edit: Get a bigger SSD for your OS/Games, I had a 128 GB one and it didn't take long for it to be a pain.
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The thing with wattage is that ALL PSU run most efficient at 50% load. So you'll always want to have some spare power and a good efficiency rating. A big PSU draws less power than a small PSU, partly because it builds up less heat. There is a nice calculator on the be quiet homepage, don't know if it is available in English though.
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