Horizons: 64 bit only; DX11 only

Sounds like it was an unanticipated thing to have to do at such a late stage in development, but glad that they've decided to go with it. Even if it probably actually makes very little difference to most of the player base. I found the transition to 64 bit largely seamless, with the exception of audio/music - 32 bit plugins and 64 bit hosts don't always do well together, but most plugin authors are releasing 64 bit versions these days. Can only be a good thing in the long run. 0.5% is less than I would have expected.

(my PC is 9 years old at this stage but it runs the game on ultra absolutely fine with a GTX 970 GPU) but I was planning to replace PC shortly anyway to run the Oculus rift when consumer version comes out. Have never managed to get such a long life out of a pc before, after 9 years it owes me absolutely nothing.

A salute and, when the time comes, a moment of silence, for all the older hardware out there still going strong. Keep on trucking :D
 
i did not realize quad core was min req for season 1.
but i am afraid that it might become real. G3420 is dual core with no HT. I ll call back my old customers, maybe one of them plans on upgrading his CPU, i might be able to get back a 2013 socket 1150 CPU.
also the 8GB min req : with SSD swapping is no big deal. all depends on the executable, if there is a "no go" condition or if it allows the game to run even under min req.
There's no way Frontier will enforce a requirement for a Quad-Core processor. Zero chance. Modern dual-cores offer performance way beyond any 2GHz quad so there's no reason at all to require 4 cores/threads.

(The 2GHz quad requirement always stuck me as odd and mostly useless way to specify what performance the game needs, since very few of those chips ever existed outside of laptops - the only desktop 2GHz quad I can think of is the old Phenom 9350e.)
 
i did not realize quad core was min req for season 1.
but i am afraid that it might become real. G3420 is dual core with no HT. I ll call back my old customers, maybe one of them plans on upgrading his CPU, i might be able to get back a 2013 socket 1150 CPU.
also the 8GB min req : with SSD swapping is no big deal. all depends on the executable, if there is a "no go" condition or if it allows the game to run even under min req.

Well, I can tell you that S1 runs almost flawlessly on my backup dual-core I3, I only had problems fighting in a heavily crowded CZ, apparently that overloaded the CPU. Hopefully I will get another I7 in a couple months.
As for RAM, well, it costs so little now that there is no point in not having at least 8G.

I think the main issue is the graphic card - a good, powerful card (I have an R290X) - can offload a lot of work from the cpu and probably make the game playable even on an otherwise lower spec pc.
 
As an It Tech i'll just chip in and confirm what has been said earlier - if you have a 32 bit version of windows (Vista upwards) then the key for that will work happily on a 64 bit version of the same os. Usually it takes 5 activation's on 32 or 64 bit before you even have to go to the microsoft automated phone line to get a manual activation, Win 10 is a little different as it more closely ties to your hardware for activation - however, the latest build should let you load a pristine win 10 and use a previous valid Win7 or Win 8/8.1 key to activate without having to go through an upgrade.
Be aware - Any Atom based machines - eg eee pc's can only run 32 bit os's due to limitations in the board design used -not what I'd be using for heavier gaming anyway - but there are some specced with dual core atoms and Nvidia video chipsets eg the 1201n (one of which i actually have - quite a powerful little beast) that are actually not bad budget gamers otherwise.
Also some Intel macs have a similar shortcoming in their design that prohibits 64 bit os - this link gives the complete list - http://www.everymac.com/mac-answers...-bit-64-bit-boot-camp-support-intel-macs.html
 
I think the main issue is the graphic card - a good, powerful card (I have an R290X) - can offload a lot of work from the cpu and probably make the game playable even on an otherwise lower spec pc.
This. However, a beefy CPU does help when running Windows which does strange things behind the scenes when I'm trying to play games.

EDIT: No matter what solution you choose, back up your info in offline storge before applying any changes to your system When dealing with your OS, bad things can happen quickly. Be prepared.
 
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my ICH10 based motherboard will have troubles with 4 sticks of DDR2. getting 2x 4GB DDR2 "able to run" on a P5Q is hard, not impossible, but really hard.
getting a video card will be possible of course, the only spec my machine outruns is the cpu, 4core@ 3.6Ghz. socket 771 Xeons cost 20 to 30 euro, have great overclock ability, and run on socket 775 with a 5$ mod. but 8GB on ICH10 is a real pain :/

i hope the G3420 on my wife's computer will be able to run horizons. i have found a couple nice moons orbiting earthlikes in SMOJAY area, in the dark part of the arm, no one has been around this place it seems (lost sight of other explorers when i left BLU THUA, crossing through the dark path was a pain, i understand why not much people lost their time there)

Are you sure? Just checked on ASUS' website, they say P5Q supports up to 16G...
 
Also if you change to win 8/8.1 or Win 10 and (like me ) hate Metro and want it to look and behave like Win7 then you can use the following for free http://classicshell.net/
or I personally like https://www.stardock.com/products/start10/ which cost a couple of quid. I also like having aeroglass on my pc's and recommend http://www.glass8.eu/win_future.html
A very useful utility for dealing with all the rest of the "new" crap with win 8 to 10 is winaerotweaker here at http://winaero.com/ - they also have lots of other usefull little tools on that site that really let you set up windows the way you like.
 
my ICH10 based motherboard will have troubles with 4 sticks of DDR2. getting 2x 4GB DDR2 "able to run" on a P5Q is hard, not impossible, but really hard

Is the issue with 8GB total RAM or 4 sticks? If 4 sticks, why can't you run 2 sticks of 4GB? I have a P5QL (not sure on the differences) and it runs 2x2GB fine.
 
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really wondering if my rig would be able to run Horizons. have a 4th gen i5 4570 with a 760 gtx. recommended is a 3rd generation i7 (from 2012?)
 
indeed.
to stay on topic, for people that do not feel like going to windows10 (going to win10 with no thinking is not an advice i would give, as a builder and long time IT specialist, i m still having issues and weird things going on)
You can download at microsoft an official ISO file of your OS (win 7 or win 8) or borrow it from a friend, as long as the "edition" is the same (home, pro, ultimate etc). the licence number is the same for 32 and 64 bits.
be aware though, drivers have to be reinstalled for your hardware, but, 99.9% of the time, hardware is compliant with 32 or 64 bits system, it doesnt affect it.
most of the time, your computer will feel a lot better in 64bits environment (better memory management, full memory use (no 3GB limit anymore), more speed, smoother experience)
As usually, if you run a 32bits system, you run it for a very long time, a full backup is advised, with a "from scratch" installation. Use the occasion, if you can afford it, to grab a 250GB SSD from a certain manufacturer that wants to take over the market (90euros for 250GB), and make your clean install on the empty SSD, keeping on the side the old drive with your old 32bits system, making it easier to bring back the old data in the new system.

unless you have a brand new computer, most of the time, any computer older than 2013-2014 will run windows 7 with no problems. Windows 8 has to be avoided unless "hardware requires it" (laptops usually, with no windows 7 drivers for specific sub devices)

windows 10 is........ a bit like going in the dark of the galaxy with a class E frame shift drive, it does the job, but it can be long and painful, with a lot of deadends and U-turns.

and concerning windows 10 : as long as you have traces of your old system (aka you upgraded through windows update from 7/8 to 10) you will have problems.
best solution is to grab the new serial number generated after the update (google is your friend, magicalbeans key grabber does the job) (your genuine 7/8 licence has been changed to a 10 licence key), backup settings and data, get the USB Windows 10 installer from microsoft, format the drive, and make a clean install using the newly generated windows 10 key.
Installing windows 10 this way guarantees less... surprises and semi-digested remains of the older system.
(updating a windows OS has always been a bad idea, i remember those as far as i can remember windows 3.11 and the older one, MSDOS versions mixup and so on)

edit : the issue is 4 sticks, they demand too much power from the northbridge. using 2x4GB sticks would do the stuff. problem is that very few modules work. Corsair dominator was one of the rare ram that worked on P5Qxx. And on today's market, i just cant find any of those, even second hand)

Win10 upgrade on multiple platforms, PC and laptop, all systems with multiple years of data on them, Windows 7 and Windows 8.x mixed, not a single issue with the upgrade or since. I'm in IT as well, and the only real issues I've seen with the Win10 upgrades are when people try to upgrade with something borked, and that's going to cause problems every time anyway. It's very much a YMMV deal otherwise, but so far, problems are the exception, not the expectation. Which is very odd for any MS product...
 
Here are some useful comparison charts for CPUs and Graphics Cards. that might help some commanders work out where they should spend their hard earned credits.

Note that upgrading your graphics card can be relatively easy but it is NOT always so.

If you're buying a more powerful card it is likely that it will draw more power and therefore you may also need to upgrade your PSU. However, some of the newer Nvidia cards are more efficient and according to the comparison chart I linked to above a GTX 750Ti is equivalent to a 470. The GTX 750Ti uses very little power and maybe the solution for people who are upgrading older PCs. But... when I installed mine I needed to install a newer version of my BIOS which is absolutely, positively not trivial!!

It would be good if Frontier could let us know if they think a GTX 750Ti will run Horizons (although I'm probably going to upgrade anyway).

Of course if CMDRs are going to sort out a new PC, why not get one that will run the Oculus Rift at the same time? ;)

Video Card NVIDIA GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater
CPU Intel i5-4590 equivalent or greater
Memory 8GB+ RAM
Video Output Compatible HDMI 1.3 video output
USB Ports 2x USB 3.0 ports
OS Windows 7 SP1 or newer


On one of the duplicate threads that got closed a CMDR was complaining that they couldn't afford to upgrade their PC having spent their rainy day money on the life time expansion pass. David Braben mentioned that CMDRs who lost out on the DX10 to DX11 requirement switch would be offered a refund, so you if the new specs stuff you then Frontier might offer you a refund.
 
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Asus says a lot of things. google quickly "P5Q" "8GB" and you will see. running actually 4x1GB, had to lower the ram FSB, overvolt a ton of things including the northbridge, and i might once or twice per month still get a crash under heavy memory load. ICH 10 and 4 sticks is no go, volting issue, with or without overclock, the thing was just not electrically built for that.
this rig is my companion since 2008. it saw a lot of things, except one : ram stability :)

??

I had a P5Q-Pro mobo for 5 years with no ram issues - same mobo or do you have a different one?

I used 2x 4GB of Corsair XMS ram with no issues, it is the type with the plain black heatsink - not with the pointless fin type heatsinks that fancier* (*more expensive) ram has.

I had a quick scan online and the first few forums I looked at ended up with it being down to a faulty stick.

Maybe you need to try booting with one stick and resetting ram settings to default, and then manually setting timings based on ram stick spec?


I might be out of luck myself, as although I downloaded 64bit W10, my dog ate 10 of the bits, and my wife lost 30 more when she last went cycling. If anyone has any bits they could PM me, that would be caketastic.
 
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Paid for the horizons exspansion yesterday up to this point my pc met minimum specs as far as the graphics card is concerned (Nvidia GTS 450) today ive seen the new specs so it seems my pc isnt good enough to run horizons( Nvidia GTX 470 minimum).

Not really looking for a refund as i plan to upgrade one day but not sure when (not any time soon). My main concern is can i still play the original part of the game without downloading the new exspansion on my system as it is now after the horizons is released?

Although ive been a pc gamer for some time im no expert i just play games on them so ive no idea if i can still play and would be greatful for any advice.

Thankyou
 
My main concern is can i still play the original part of the game without downloading the new exspansion on my system as it is now after the horizons is released?

The specs has only changed for Horizons, so you should be able to play the original part (Season 1) like before. Some time later next year you will have to use 64-bit for everything but as far as I understand it you are not forced to upgrade your graphics card if you stay with season one. I also understand, that both clients stay separate but use the same servers. Otherwise it would not be possible for Horizon-Avoiders to still play the original game. So you should be fine to play the original part as long as you want but will to have follow the new specs as soon as you want to use the horizons exclusive content.
 
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