Horizons: 64 bit only; DX11 only

The specs has only changed for Horizons, so you should be able to play the original part (Season 1) like before. Some time later next year you will have to use 64-bit for everything but as far as I understand it you are not forced to upgrade your graphics card if you stay with season one.


OK thank you madman i am currently using 64-bit OS so thats good, but i hope your right about being able to still use the card i have now as i have no way of upgraing at this time ( i dont earn much) but thanks for your quick response i can panic less now ;)
 
Of course it will, easily! Did you see the official specs in the newsletter? I have a 660 and I'm not nervous.

The 750 is a bit of an oddball, it is an early Maxwell card that doesn't have much oomph, but uses very little power. It's not part of the same family as the 760, 770 and 780. Tom's Hardware puts it in the same rank as the 470 and so could be very handy for CMDRs who need a GPU change without the hassle of needing to replace the PSU.
 
Perhaps FD should have released the specs before putting Horizons up for sale.
Its a kick in the teeth to many that bought Horizons thinking that their rig that runs the base game would run the expansion too.
A refund is nice...but this could get very sloppy with LOTS of negative comments and reviews in the gaming industry.

Basically selling an expansion with no word of more pc min requirements is not good long term business eticate in my opinion...and can leave a nasty taste in the mouth of the player base.

For me, I just needed an upgraded GFX card...was needing one anyways,..but for the countless many that already have their monies invested and unable to upgrade...I feel for them.
 
Perhaps FD should have released the specs before putting Horizons up for sale.

That would require a crystal ball. It was absolutely obvious that minimum and recommended specs would be increased.

Its a kick in the teeth to many that bought Horizons thinking that their rig that runs the base game would run the expansion too.

Seems like a silly assumption to have made.

A refund is nice...but this could get very sloppy with LOTS of negative comments and reviews in the gaming industry.

No need for it to really, is there.

Basically selling an expansion with no word of more pc min requirements is not good long term business eticate in my opinion...and can leave a nasty taste in the mouth of the player base.

Specs were always subject to change while Horizons was in development, it's not rocket science.

For me, I just needed an upgraded GFX card...was needing one anyways,..but for the countless many that already have their monies invested and unable to upgrade...I feel for them.

Put in a request for a refund if your machine isn't capable of running it, sure FD will sort that out happily.
 
That would require a crystal ball. It was absolutely obvious that minimum and recommended specs would be increased.



Seems like a silly assumption to have made.



No need for it to really, is there.



Specs were always subject to change while Horizons was in development, it's not rocket science.



Put in a request for a refund if your machine isn't capable of running it, sure FD will sort that out happily.




So you are saying at point of sale for Horizons, devs and FD had no clue of min requirements?

I feel otherwise, that this was a marketing move knowing that not 100% of sales that need refunding will not apply for it.
 
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So you are saying at point of sale for Horizons, devs and FD had no clue of min requirements?

No different to 90% of game pre-orders when the game is in development.

I feel otherwise, that this was a marketing move knowing that not 100% of sales that need refunding will not apply for it.

You're obviously a little annoyed by it, which to be honest is your own fault for assuming it was going to stay the same.
 
Its a kick in the teeth to many that bought Horizons thinking that their rig that runs the base game would run the expansion too.

I dont really agree to that part. IMHO you always have to expect, that an addon raises the specs because addons bring new features and new features often needs more processing power. If an addon runs with the same specs as a base game than it is pure luck from my point of view. But yes, it would be better to make that clear more early. On the other hand I find the term "countless many" greatly exaggerated, I really doubt the number is that high. The minimum specs are still quite low so it wont expect, that FD really have to fear a big wave of refund requests.

So you are saying at point of sale for Horizons, devs and FD had no clue of min requirements?
Yes, most likely. To define the specs you have to do optimizations in most cases and these optimizations are done in yery late state of development, where preorders already have started. In todays times, where you develop right until release, specs are always subject to change right until release. If you release them to early than maybe you exclude too many potentional customers if the optimization runs show later, that there i room to lower them. So its quite common today. And this is only problematic if you do not offer refunds for customers, who are affected by these late changes in specs.

I feel otherwise, that this was a marketing move knowing that not 100% of sales that need refunding will not apply for it.
Maybe, but most of the companies I know work that way. Its the job of a marketing division to stretch the truth as far as possible. So I fail to see the problem in this case.
 
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No different to 90% of game pre-orders when the game is in development.



You're obviously a little annoyed by it, which to be honest is your own fault for assuming it was going to stay the same.



I am not annoyed at all...but my heart goes out to the fellow that cant upgrade his rig because he needs to pay for his kids education....and he scrapped just to pay for Horizons at pre-release.
Call me soft hearted...but I feel for those that I feel get shafted....even if it wasnt FDs intent...with correct timing of release of min requirements, this fellow would have his cash still in hand and not waiting for a refund.
 
No one is getting shafted, refunds have been offered. Expecting specs to stay the same is insanity.

Nobody said anything about expecting specs to stay the same...do you argue just to argue?
Its all in the timing spec info release.
It didnt have to be this way...dont you agree, if they knew the specs,they should have released this info before or at the same time of sales?
Why hold this info back? it raises eyebrows.
 
Nobody said anything about expecting specs to stay the same...do you argue just to argue?
Its all in the timing spec info release.
It didnt have to be this way...dont you agree, if they knew the specs,they should have released this info before or at the same time of sales?
Why hold this info back? it raises eyebrows.

If they had known the finalised specs they would have announced them, why are you set to thinking they are being manipulative? There is no hidden agenda, it is the nature of software development.
 
I am not annoyed at all...but my heart goes out to the fellow that cant upgrade his rig because he needs to pay for his kids education....and he scrapped just to pay for Horizons at pre-release.
Call me soft hearted...but I feel for those that I feel get shafted....even if it wasnt FDs intent...with correct timing of release of min requirements, this fellow would have his cash still in hand and not waiting for a refund.

Sorry to sound cynical, you can upgrade for free to W10, if its a hardware issue we all know that games in the league of Elite is not for very old machines. The required spec are still very very low.
moreover if someone need to think of he has to play games or pay for his kids education he should probably reprioritise his needs. its just a bad argument.
 
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I've bought the life time expansion pass for my son but now his machine is too old for 2.0

We won't be buggy racing together until after Xmas when I can afford to upgrade it.

It's to be expected though, the game is using cutting edge technology and pushing the boundaries of what is possible.

Next season will probably push it further.

EDIT: For he record, it is very common in the industry to not know or be able to predict system requirements until a very late stage of implementation.
 
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If they had known the finalised specs they would have announced them, why are you set to thinking they are being manipulative? There is no hidden agenda, it is the nature of software development.

1 mil copies sold at 40 bucks US.
Interest on 40 mil held in bank until refund?

Lots of money to be made when you got cash in your hands...even if you need to send it back later...you still keep the interest,.
(Hypothetical numbers)
 
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1 mil copies sold at 40 bucks US.
Interest on 40 mil held in bank until refund?

Lots of money to be made when you got cash in your hands...even if you need to send it back later...you still keep the interest,.

And this is different to how other companies operate how? Your choice to pre-order or not. Why are you so cynical and why do you think FD should operate differently to any other company, the fact that they have offered refunds is more than a great many would have done.
 
I've bought the life time expansion pass for my son but now his machine is too old for 2.0

We won't be buggy racing together until after Xmas when I can afford to upgrade it.

It's to be expected though, the game is using cutting edge technology and pushing the boundaries of what is possible.

Next season will probably push it further.

EDIT: For he record, it is very common in the industry to not know or be able to predict system requirements until a very late stage of implementation.

GTX 980TI SLI confirmed....
 
So I've done a bit of digging over at the Nvidia website. The 750 Ti has a quicker clock and memory speed than the 470 and can support 2 rather than 1 Gb of memory, but the 470 has more than twice the memory bandwidth of the 750. Hmmmm, I think I've reached the limits of my understanding of the technical aspects of GPUs...
 
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Isn't there also variants, that some people have WIN64 (XP, Vista, WIN7, WIN8 etc), but directx10 graphic cards? Is here statistic about them too?

Are you sure? I have an old nVidia 460 on my 7 years old desktop, and it was dx11, How old are those cards?
Anyway min declared specs for E:D always been dx11.

For the records, about win64, i have it on that old desktop (it originally had vista), even when it had 4GB ram, and it always worked fine, i don't see why anyone should't have a 64bit OS in 2015.

I'm just worried because now the 460 got a bit under the min spec for horizons :p
 
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