Immersion Destroying Npcs

Just look at this, makes 0 sense.

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The last one was another imp courier, come on FD this makes 0 in game sense.
 
If this is a pop culture reference, it just sailed right over my head.

This is the future. People take pseudonyms when flying to protect their true identity. What better than the names of famous people from history/fiction?

If I were a cat burglar, I might call myself 'Mozart'. Same principle.
 
Does not compute.
are you referring to the imperial and federation ships?
if they are bad guys, it doesn't mean cops use blocks and burglars use a crowbar...
if they can get their hands on it, they will use it.
 
If this is a pop culture reference, it just sailed right over my head.

This is the future. People take pseudonyms when flying to protect their true identity. What better than the names of famous people from history/fiction?

If I were a cat burglar, I might call myself 'Mozart'. Same principle.


the immersion break here is not the pilot names, but rather the fact that the pirates were flying ships from the opposite faction and both require rank to unlock.

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LOL sorry Im color blind, this looks good to me.
If it works well for you then more power to ya.

it's just a particularly eyeball-stabby shade of blue for those of us who can see the whole spectrum though ;-;
 
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I kind of see what people are saying about they are pirates so they steal, but there has been absolutely no hint at the ability to steal ships ever in this game, so why can npc pirates steal?
 
the immersion break here is not the pilot names, but rather the fact that the pirates were flying ships from the opposite faction and both require rank to unlock.


Errm,Is the OP saying if I have ranked up with Empire and bought an Imperial Clipper and my flying buddy has ranked up with Federals and has a Dropship are you saying that it would spoil your immersion if we teamed up and you met us in game?
 
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Errm, if I have ranked up with Empire and bought an Imperial Clipper and my flying buddy has ranked up with Federals and has a Dropship are you saying that it would spoil your immersion if we teamed up and you met us in game?
I have no problem with it. Let em fly whatever they want to fly. Brujah had expressed a bit of confusion so I cleared up what was ruining OP's immersion.
 
Errm, if I have ranked up with Empire and bought an Imperial Clipper and my flying buddy has ranked up with Federals and has a Dropship are you saying that it would spoil your immersion if we teamed up and you met us in game?

I think this is weird too, players should have to make a choice empire or feds, its weird that you can be highest rank with both, other people have said this too, a galaxy in a cold war should not have the two sides being all buddy buddy.

Edit: Just my opinion though, i think it would make more sense.
 
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Last night I saw a dropship as part of an Emperial fleet. It almost broke my immersion but I wee'd in my pretend space nappy and ate a blue hotdog and all was well again.
 
the immersion break here is not the pilot names, but rather the fact that the pirates were flying ships from the opposite faction and both require rank to unlock.

Yeah, I worked that out, but I'm at work and had to do some of that before I got a chance to edit. Cheers though, glad I'm not so old I missed some sort of pop culture reference. Though given the average age of ED players, I think I'm a youngster compared to most! :D
 
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There is a black market for these things. Unfortunately its rather exclusive and no players know where it is or how to get ships from it.

There you go, you can have your immersion back. ;)
 
Yeah, I worked that out, but I'm at work and had to do some of that before I got a chance to edit. Cheers though, glad I'm not so old I missed some sort of pop culture reference. Though given the average age of ED players, I think I'm a youngster compared to most! :D
I'm probably an ankle-biter compared to you and I still miss a lot of pop culture references.

Doesn't help that I don't really follow what's trending here though. I couldn't give a damn about who said what, who's wearing what, or who's doing who. World events are far more up my alley.

God that post makes me sound like a freaking hipster >_>
 
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I think this is weird too, players should have to make a choice empire or feds, its weird that you can be highest rank with both, other people have said this too, a galaxy in a cold war should not have the two sides being all buddy buddy.

Edit: Just my opinion though, i think it would make more sense.


Cold war? Is it a cold war? Pretty shoddy cold war when you have federation and empire factions living in the same system and the same station, or when you have one faction giving missions to communicate, trade and clear pirates out of the other major factions controlled system. I don't think there is any sort of large scale war going on at the moment, I think people just want there to be one.
I have no problem with this, quite the opposite, it lets my imagination run wild. (former ranking officers from two navies now gone rogue, a gang of thugs specializing in robbing military shipyards, alliance pilots giving a bad name to both other major factions by committing crimes in rank locked ships, pilots from opposing factions winging up to compete and prove who is best, an undercover side by side comparison run by the emperor's grace to see how the FDS they salvaged and repaired stacks up against a courier. and on and on and on)
 
I think this is weird too, players should have to make a choice empire or feds, its weird that you can be highest rank with both, other people have said this too, a galaxy in a cold war should not have the two sides being all buddy buddy.

Edit: Just my opinion though, i think it would make more sense.

Okay let me suggest a little roleplay here then to help with that immersion breaking you saw.
One of the NPC's ranked up with Feds and bought his Dropship fair and square. His mate, not so well off nipped around the local shipyards where he lived in Fed space and got a great deal on a rebuilt Imp ship. The reason it was such a great deal was because all his buddies would look down their nose at him, for running around in an Imp ship. But it was all he could afford and he would have to put up with being stopped by the Fed police more often because of his ship. They teamed up together to go confuse the other travellers in space, annnnd.... being pirates they could get the drop on victims easier because the victim wouldn't be too sure initially which side they were both on and may hesitate giving them an advantage.
 
Cold war? Is it a cold war? Pretty shoddy cold war when you have federation and empire factions living in the same system and the same station, or when you have one faction giving missions to communicate, trade and clear pirates out of the other major factions controlled system. I don't think there is any sort of large scale war going on at the moment, I think people just want there to be one.

Things might have cooled off between the Feds and the Imps, but there's been a fair amount of Fed incursions into Alliance space. Seems they'd rather go thump on someone who wants to be left alone than someone who's directly antagonistic by lore definition. (at least cultural wise)
 
I kind of see what people are saying about they are pirates so they steal, but there has been absolutely no hint at the ability to steal ships ever in this game, so why can npc pirates steal?

There is absolutely no hint in the game that you can land your ship, get out, go knock over a liquor store on the station somewhere, run back to your ship and make a get-away... but within the world that this game (partially) simulates you could do just that.

I'm sure there is a story for how pirates get ahold of ships that require faction. Maybe they used to have rank in the faction, they got a ship, then they lost their rank when they turned to a life of crime but didn't loose their ship. Maybe there's a black market for crappy fed dropships because they're the Atarii 2600 ET cartridge of the Elite universe.

Either way, you don't know that it doesn't make sense because it would be a story issue, not a game mechanics issue.

In my mind the two things that NPCs do that most destroys immersion:

1> They literally sit and spin while you kill them to death until they are dead. Deffo some kind of bug in the AI there.

2> Even though they were like, only 5 km away while I was slaughtering 5 other ships from their EXACT SAME FACTION, they scan my cargo and if I don't have anything they just turn their back on me while I follow them at 2km until my KWS is done and then proceed to practice proctology all over their 100 million space buck Python. Really when you kill a zillion pirates from a single faction you should end up on their number 1 most wanted list and get attacked by them at every juncture. The way it is now smacks a little too much of bunny farming in a theme park mmo for my taste.
 
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