UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Running one of these "Sealing the Deal" Mysterio-Missions recently and seeing "Data Crystals" being hidden in the Trinkets of Fortune by the Dark Wheel, and remembering the Mysterio-Mission "Obfuscated in the outer Rim" also clearly stated that the Dark Wheel originally owned (again) Data Crystals holding a Map "to the place that isn't a place. The door that is the key."....

I did wonder :
Has someone taken these Missions (now obviously holding something onboard the Ship, even if it's not Cargo with the exception of the SAP-8 container variant - which kinda seem the original source for the "Map Data Cystals" being a crystalline shard in that force-field), and then conducted experiments on UA reaction & Morse? Into Merope maybe?

The UA damages the Ship, which limits the time available in free space.
The "Mysterio Missions" (Courier) limit the time available by their fairly short Mission timers.

But a 400LY destination or some local 30-40min of Experiments (behavioural studies, Morse recording) would be possible.

As the Dark Wheel is clearly mentioned AND the "Mysterio Missions" AFAIK being widely discarded as they don't do anything despite being in play since such a long time....
Could it be that these Data Crystals are what the UAs seek?
Did the Dark Wheel steal or take something from some place - and their (Alien?) owners now scan Human Ships and Space in search for what they're missing?
(thinking Horizons : Dark Wheel extracts Cyrstalline Shards from an Alien wreckage on a Planet, extracts Data Crystals and hauls them back into the bubble for analysis. At roughly the same time, UAs pop up. Coincidence?)

Just wondering... what a UA scanning would reveal while one is carrying those non-Cargo Courier Missions and holding what sounds like extracted Data Crystals (holding a Map, right?) apparently from the original SAP-8 canisters.

I bet it's nothing, but seeing those "special missions" popping up everywhere, while most ignore them (no ELITE Rank anyway or tested them to witness no visible results) kept me thinking about them.
And it all being Dark Wheel releated, maybe the Founders world might be a place to test all this as well.
 
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Hey guys, just thought I would share this video I took.

I was checking out the planets on Horizons and I came across a settlement being guarded by some drones, there was nothing of value here but I heard what sounded similar to a UA come from inside the main structure.

Hope this helps.


[video=youtube_share;iJLodqOFlTs]https://youtu.be/iJLodqOFlTs[/video]
 
Hey guys, just thought I would share this video I took.

I was checking out the planets on Horizons and I came across a settlement being guarded by some drones, there was nothing of value here but I heard what sounded similar to a UA come from inside the main structure.

Hope this helps.


https://youtu.be/iJLodqOFlTs

Nothing new: it's not the UA sound.
It's simply the "land" version of the sound all the Outposts produce from their big microphones. Visit a random Civil Outpost, and you'll hear those creepy sounds all around, coming from those microphones. ;)
Thanks for sharing.

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Lots of doscussions and tests were made with SAP 8 and those missions you are referring to. Nothing came out.
BTW those missions are Elite only: it would be very unfair to limit the UA mystery solution to Elite players, don't you think? ;)
 
Hey guys, just thought I would share this video I took.

I was checking out the planets on Horizons and I came across a settlement being guarded by some drones, there was nothing of value here but I heard what sounded similar to a UA come from inside the main structure.

Hope this helps.

Very cool. Reminds me of "the hatch" from Lost.
 
Also as far as LZ's article. I love how it completely neglects the fact that people are smuggling UAs not selling them. I think you sell something and you're going to an open free market... smuggling involves a black market :)

It's still a market - and you sell stuff at markets. It's just an unregulated, illegal, market.

Smuggling is the act of *transporting* illegal goods. After you've smuggled, you either store, donate, destory or sell ;)

But I take it your comment is also making reference to the possibility that there might be some UAs, not 'sold' by players, that have gone via 'official' markets. I hadn't thought of that...
 
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It's still a market - and you sell stuff at markets. It's just an unregulated, illegal, market.

Smuggling is the act of *transporting* illegal goods. After you've smuggled, you either store, donate, destory or sell ;)

But I take it your comment is also making reference to the possibility that there might be some UAs, not 'sold' by players, that have gone via 'official' markets. I hadn't thought of that...

Indeed, but I was also alluding to the fact that others may be sitting on cargo holds full of UAs not selling them as a potential source of station damage among other things. By being a careful wordsmith you could test a few theories if the appropriate approval or edits happen.
 
Selling UAs cause station malfunctions/shutdown? Hmm... I wonder what would happen if people started selling a bunch of UAs to Trevithick Dock in LHS 3447...
 
Selling UAs cause station malfunctions/shutdown? Hmm... I wonder what would happen if people started selling a bunch of UAs to Trevithick Dock in LHS 3447...

Nothing. It's almost surely not automatic.
FD choses case by case, then a Galnet post pops up. It's all "handmade".
 
Indeed, but I was also alluding to the fact that others may be sitting on cargo holds full of UAs not selling them as a potential source of station damage among other things. By being a careful wordsmith you could test a few theories if the appropriate approval or edits happen.

I've been sitting for a week in Millerport (Quince) with 10 UAs. Still there are no station malfunctions. So either needed more time, or it is not a cause of malfunctions.
 
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Plus Trevithick Dock doesn't have a black market...
System map says it does...
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Nothing. It's almost surely not automatic.
FD choses case by case, then a Galnet post pops up. It's all "handmade".
Really? Didn't sound like it from what I've been reading before... Oh well.
 
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Nothing. It's almost surely not automatic.
FD choses case by case, then a Galnet post pops up. It's all "handmade".

While I agree - it looks handcrafted .... With FDs love of procedural generation, Im not ruling that out yet. The supposed link between UA sales and Station Problems seems a bit tenuous tho. It is possible a different black market item is causing this... The black market connection atleast is sound. Hmmmmm might be good to look at trade data from the infected systems ...
 
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Though I appear to be wrong, was the BM added recently? Both well known websites that track and record station data show Trevithick Dock as not having a black market, but clearly it does, in game.

http://roguey.co.uk/elite-dangerous/universe/lhs3447/trevithickdock/

And

https://eddb.io/station/7598

That data is likely as old as the game itself, so the BM must be new.

Well we know that BM's now have been associated with CG tiers (the highest if I recall correctly which is funny to me) so it wouldn't be outlandish to think that there is another BGS mechanism at play here that causes them to appear over time like say.... slide into anarchy or civil war or something along those lines. Should be interesting to check the system's geopolitical landscape.
 
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