Real world piracy has the completely different nature. It's not like pirates migrate from one place to another. They're the result of the corruption, poverty and the total failure of social institutes.
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Real world piracy has the completely different nature. It's not like pirates migrate from one place to another. They're the result of the corruption, poverty and the total failure of social institutes.
"The clown can stay but the Ferengi in the gorilla suit has to go."
And you don't get them in the English channel because the Royal Navy would be along very soon to deal with this.
But they can operate in the almost unpoliced waters off other countries.
Which kinda goes back to my point about system authorities policing secure systems.
I've noticed that some of us don't mind to engage into psychological analysis of other thread posters so I decided to present one of my own. Please don't judge me too harshly.
I'm dare to point out that those who advocate for the removal of Open and restricting PVP are the ones who realize that can't compete in game. This is why they resort to the forum campaign in order to obtain their imaginary revenge. Pretty much the same happens in the office environment with those who can't compete professionally and turn to backstabbing and backstage intrigues. Such approach renders the highly political companies dysfunctional. This can also happen to the game should we continue to follow this direction.
Just my 5 cents.
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Relying on the brute force in order to obtain order shows the very limited viewpoint on the social mechanisms. What holds pirates from English channel is not Royal Navy, but the supremacy of law and human rights. Talking about Royal Navy don't you know that the crown of English queen has embedded diamonds obtained from pirate raids?
I'm dare to point out that those who advocate for the removal of Open and restricting PVP are the ones who realize that can't compete in game. This is why they resort to the forum campaign in order to obtain their imaginary revenge. Pretty much the same happens in the office environment with those who can't compete professionally and turn to backstabbing and backstage intrigues. Such approach renders the highly political companies dysfunctional. This can also happen to the game should we continue to follow this direction.
Just my 5 cents.
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Relying on the brute force in order to obtain order shows the very limited viewpoint on the social mechanisms. What holds pirates from English channel is not Royal Navy, but the supremacy of law and human rights. Talking about Royal Navy don't you know that the crown of English queen has embedded diamonds obtained from pirate raids?
I think you're a bit off base. Folks who get their highest enjoyment from PvP action naturally advocate for changes that will enhance their PvP experience. Folks that mostly enjoy PvE do likewise for their game style. The rest of us that have varied play styles based on our mood and enjoy the fact the ED gives us the freedom to do so mostly say "leave it alone already!"
Just how does one "compete" in Elite, a game that cannot be "won"?
Of course, there are those who have quite stressful days and want to relax and unwind, with friends.
Though I dare say, there probably are some of who you describe.
Also, there are people who play who have social anxiety disorders - so playing with one or two close friends is fine, but random strangers forcing themselves on you can become extremely distressful in a very short space of time.
So you mean to say the stressful life and personal social disorders justify the game adjustment at the expense of others?
Umm... where do you get the notion that someone really wants to remove Open?
I, for one, don't.
I'm not against additional Open mode where PK isn't possible either.
Why do you oppose a mode, where (people who otherwise play in Solo or Private Groups) can interact without shooting each other?
Did you not know, we live in an "all inclusive" society now ?
18, 19 year old Uni students have to hide in "Safe Spaces" with PlayDoh, Crayons and Colouring books with videos of Puppies frolicking.
Just in case someone is to say something they disagree with.
I'd say "God forbid they get their feelings hurt", but that is not allowed as the thought of an omnipotent being watching their every move could "Trigger" them and make their heads explode.
Remember, we all love each other and want to elevate each other, not hold each other back.
(Just because I was a father at 19, had a house, with bills - worked in 50 hour week job as a pot wash / trainee chef - does not mean the rest of the world should be forced in to being grown ups - some people are just special little snowflakes
)The Open mode removal discussion is ongoing and keeps emerging now and then. Check few pages back.
I'm not against Open PvE mode. I think it's the same as Mobius. The main argument for Open PvE is that someone might not know about Mobius and is missing out on life. I personally don't think this reason is enough to start developing an extra mode while so many other game aspects require attention.
How about a quick join request option from the main menu?
So;
Play >
- Open
- Mobius PvE (join)
- Group
- Solo
And just have the (join) part go once someone has.
?
[Edit: or my other menu update idea a few pages back]
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There are places to find pirates and places they dare not go in real life.
In Elite: Dangerous, pirates can go anywhere they like without much of a problem.
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For some odd reason, I wasn't following her.
And yes, as of 2016 we have MoM™ back
/happydance
Nope...she came back about 3 months ago...her return MIGHT have been scrubbed from her Tweets...but go back to Aug and Sept...
It's ok, I believe you.
Wish their had been a big forum announcement.
We could have sent her a cake and cards to show DBOBE not to kidnap her from us again.
I think the "Open mode removal discussion" was never meant to be taken seriously, it's just a jab at "Solo mode removal discussion", pointing the uselessness of both.
Thank you for a reasonable answer!
IMHO Open PvE would be inherently better than Mobius group for everyone (Mobius himself included), because it would be FDEV dependent instead of depending on the continuing wellbeing and interest of one passionate player, it would be equally visible/available for everyone as current Open & Solo modes, and it would be (hopefully) more resistant against idiots invading it for a killing spree.
Ok, so play with one or two close friends, in a group, which is already an option.
I think this will be easy enough to implement. The only problem what if Mobius founder losses interest and decides to disband the group. Such groups shoud be FD driven.
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I think the "Open mode removal discussion" was never meant to be taken seriously, it's just a jab at "Solo mode removal discussion", pointing the uselessness of both.
Thank you for a reasonable answer!
IMHO Open PvE would be inherently better than Mobius group for everyone (Mobius himself included), because it would be FDEV dependent instead of depending on the continuing wellbeing and interest of one passionate player, it would be equally visible/available for everyone as current Open & Solo modes, and it would be (hopefully) more resistant against idiots invading it for a killing spree.
And who said I'm serious?!)))
Go and PvP in a group with like minded players - that is an option.
Go CQC for PvP - that is an option
(that argument works both ways)
Give the player base an informed choice is also an option - something you're against.
No mate, I am not against the informed choice. Actually, I think its in the game's best interest to provide a detailed description of what can happen in the various game modes. How have I made the impression that I would be against this? I think I have stated that very point a few times.
As for "going to pvp in a group"... again, I want to pirate, not shoot things.
Personally, I'm not in favour of any kind of incentive for Open play.
For me, the opportunity to encounter other players is both the risk and the reward. I've made a couple of enemies and I've also made a few friends - the chance to make both is what makes Open special and appealing for me
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I would have no trouble being pirated by you or your kind of player. You are a "decent" piratey-type.
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