UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Layne Vakarian

Layne Vakarian
Well this'll give the forum mods something to think about:
I'm done. Goodbye fare well and all that. Fdev think I'm an idiot. They think you are all idiots in that they can come up with a 'storyline' and expect us credulous idiots to run with it.
No.
Goodbye Frontier.
Goodbye Elite.
I'm done.
Keep your hackneyed storylines and Kackhanded handling thereof
Oh and while I'm at it : Brookes! as a storyteller, you make a good fishmonger.
Goodbye.

Silent Pact: outta here

Note: if I ever restart this it'll be as a new Commander. Probably not though. What a waste of £300.

To all other Commanders: I love you man - what a community! I will miss you.

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LordZoltan

LordZoltan
My position on the T-ship bug:
Nobody reported it as a bug. We've all been a little bit guilty of treating the UA as a 'real thing' rather than a piece of software.

Sure, we asked if it was a bug here - but it wasn't reported as a bug...

But anyway, it is what it is. I'm just pleased it's off the table. Sure - would've been nice to know sooner - I'm not an apologist for poor communication, but a response now is only marginally worse than a response 4 weeks ago in my eyes.

Regarding Planetary scouring and whether it'll provide any development on the UA story - we can't know; but one thing's for sure: it's nice to have a reason to boot around on these planets, and Merope is undeniably important - so why not just use the buggeh there. It's great to see the number of CMDRs who are taking part in this.
 

Julio Montega

Julio Montega
Gorgonaut said:
I just had a thought:

"Professor Ishmael Palin, the scientist leading research into the Unknown Artefacts, has announced plans to establish a new research outpost on Maia B1 BA in the Maia system."

It's supposed to be far away from the general population.

Seems to me this controversial research outpost -conveniently placed outside the populated areas (yet still practically close)- might be setting up to become the Barnacle Building (Barnacle compound? Barnpound?) when the alien research inevitably goes horribly wrong.

My guess would be: It gets transformed into a meta-alloy structure or entity in a month or two :D
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I'm for hire if you want to get rid of the "false prophet".
I ain't cheap, though;)
 

Layne Vakarian

Layne Vakarian
LordZoltan said:
My position on the T-ship bug:
Nobody reported it as a bug. We've all been a little bit guilty of treating the UA as a 'real thing' rather than a piece of software.

Sure, we asked if it was a bug here - but it wasn't reported as a bug...

But anyway, it is what it is. I'm just pleased it's off the table. Sure - would've been nice to know sooner - I'm not an apologist for poor communication, but a response now is only marginally worse than a response 4 weeks ago in my eyes.

Regarding Planetary scouring and whether it'll provide any development on the UA story - we can't know; but one thing's for sure: it's nice to have a reason to boot around on these planets, and Merope is undeniably important - so why not just use the buggeh there. It's great to see the number of CMDRs who are taking part in this.
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You credulous fool. This is exactly the sort of 'fanboi'ism that gets a:the Canonn a bad name and b:allows bloody Fdev to manipulate the playerbase to their own designs.
Do not bother to reply to this. I am done. Elite has been deleted. Take me off your 'rollcall' I have no interest in being manipulated either by Fdev, Brookes, or the Canonn. WHICH BY THE WAY, TAKING ANY AND ALL, SUDDENLY HAS NOT THE 'CACHE' IT ONCE HAD.
 

Gorgonaut

Gorgonaut
This is happening, either way, man! :D

Also, my guess is that the meta-alloy structures won't be especially interactive, but will perform an action independently, in order to facilitate the arrival of the Thargoids.
This way, people who didn't buy Horizons won't feel unreasonably left out (especially if there's a lot of talk about it on GalNet, etc), and we'll get to see the structure up close and discuss it at great lengths.
 

Derthek

Derthek
Michael Brookes said:
No, it's a bug.

Michael
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Not cool bud, not cool at all.

We've been discussing the T6/7/9 morse phenomena for about a month now. Some commanders have dedicated wasted hours to following that lead, and you've been reading along the entire time. ObsidianAnt even mentioned the "bug" in his informative video and I touched on it during our educating Ed episode.

How many weeks until we're told the UA/Merope alignment is just a bug?
I'm pulling out of Merope for now, until some things get figured out around here.
I've been diving signal sources & POIs for 72 hours (almost) straight.
 

Julio Montega

Julio Montega
Derthek said:
Not cool bud, not cool at all.

We've been discussing the T6/7/9 morse phenomena for about a month now. Some commanders have dedicated wasted hours to following that lead, and you've been reading along the entire time. ObsidianAnt even mentioned the "bug" in his informative video and I touched on it during our educating Ed episode.

How many weeks until we're told the UA/Merope alignment is just a bug?
I'm pulling out of Merope for now, until some things get figured out around here.
I've been diving signal sources & POIs for 72 hours (almost) straight.
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On the topic of alignment to merope,
did anyone ever think of it being backwards?

Why go for the position the head keeps pointing at,
when it also got a tail to point at?

If it is a non adult barnacle, wouldn't it be logical to point at the place to settle
with the tail?
 
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Gorgonaut

Gorgonaut
Derthek said:
Not cool bud, not cool at all.

We've been discussing the T6/7/9 morse phenomena for about a month now. Some commanders have dedicated wasted hours to following that lead, and you've been reading along the entire time. ObsidianAnt even mentioned the "bug" in his informative video and I touched on it during our educating Ed episode.

How many weeks until we're told the UA/Merope alignment is just a bug?
I'm pulling out of Merope for now, until some things get figured out around here.
I've been diving signal sources & POIs for 72 hours (almost) straight.
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When the question first arose, didn't MB say they weren't going to comment on that? Wasn't there a winky-smiley face?
Also, I seem to remember that the story has a fixed ending, but that the way there was "constantly being developed" or something?

This tells me that the bug was considered brought into the storyline, but didn't work out for some reason.

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Derthek

Derthek
LordZoltan said:
My position on the T-ship bug:
Nobody reported it as a bug. We've all been a little bit guilty of treating the UA as a 'real thing' rather than a piece of software.

Sure, we asked if it was a bug here - but it wasn't reported as a bug...
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Sorry mate, I'm going to have to disagree with you here. You can see MB responding instantly here when the UA first scanned us to tell us if something is a bug or not. He's neglected to tell us until now, and even let that slip past the quality assurance tests for a couple patches now. I hate to call you out MB, but that was a pretty bad thing to leave until now.

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Julio Montega said:
On the topic of alignment to merope,
did anyone ever think of it being backwards?

Why go for the position the keeps pointing at,
when it also got a tail to point at?

If it is a non adult barnacle, wouldn't it be logical to point at the place to settle
with the tail?
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You realize that if the UA points its head at a single location, it's pointing its tail at an infitinte amount of locations, right?
 

Derthek

Derthek
Gorgonaut said:
When the question first arose, didn't MB say they weren't going to comment on that? Wasn't there a winky-smiley face?
Also, I seem to remember that the story has a fixed ending, but that the way there was "constantly being developed" or something?

This tells me that the bug was considered brought into the storyline, but didn't work out for some reason.

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Absolutely. It was either Zac or MB who said that.
 

Derthek

Derthek
Julio Montega said:
Unless that is checked out,
it still is unclear.
I come to see the UA pragmatical,
as hard cash for now;)
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Okay let me put it this way.

>Enter Merope
>Target SGR A* and travel towards it without leaving Merope
>stop moving
>Drop UA

>UA head points to the main star in Merope
>UA tail points to SGR A*

>scoop UA
>Jump out of merope
>Jump back into merope
>Target Sol and travel towards it without leaving Merope
>Drop UA

>UA head points towards the main star in Merope
>UA tail points towards Sol

You're saying that Sol & SGR A* are theoretically the same location? Mathematically & Logically this theory is dead in the water. The UA tail points anywhere that ISNT merope. Thats an infinite amount of systems. In fact, that's literally EVERY system that ISNT merope. Does that make sense?

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Gorgonaut said:
So now we may perhaps assume to know the reason for the omission. Is a bad reason? Hoo, boy- yeah. Yes it is.

Is it understandable? I guess, but it's still bad.
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There is a method of getting the UA to scan the T ships. So we know the T ship morse is in the game files, and has been in the game files since 1.4
MB has known about this bug for as long as we have and has failed to fix it or mention it.

Elite: Broken as intended
 

Julio Montega

Julio Montega
Derthek said:
Okay let me put it this way.

>Enter Merope
>Target SGR A* and travel towards it without leaving Merope
>stop moving
>Drop UA

>UA head points to the main star in Merope
>UA tail points to SGR A*

>scoop UA
>Jump out of merope
>Jump back into merope
>Target Sol and travel towards it without leaving Merope
>Drop UA

>UA head points towards the main star in Merope
>UA tail points towards Sol

You're saying that Sol & SGR A* are theoretically the same location? Mathematically & Logically this theory is dead in the water. The UA tail points anywhere that ISNT merope. Thats an infinite amount of systems. In fact, that's literally EVERY system that ISNT merope. Does that make sense?
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Totally.
Leaves open, why merope is the target.
Is it pointing at the origin of it,
as i suspected earlier theorizing on it be bred there?

The spread of UA is quite some Ly.

I'm not sure i remember this correctly,
but when i jettisoned the UA at Merope's sun it did drift.
On and on, even after some minutes of watching it there.
 
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Gorgonaut

Gorgonaut
Derthek said:
Okay let me put it this way.

There is a method of getting the UA to scan the T ships. So we know the T ship morse is in the game files, and has been in the game files since 1.4
MB has known about this bug for as long as we have and has failed to fix it or mention it.

Elite: Broken as intended
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We all want Elite to be the best game ever. I love it to pieces, but I do think we have to simply accept that Frontier's communication skills are kind of lacking.
This isn't the first example, nor will this be the last time something proves upsetting. So, it seems pointless to simply assume they absolutely, positively are speaking the truth, and are going to stick to it.
I don't think it's malice, or the lack of care, though- not one bit.
The game's still good, though. :)
 
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CMDR Corlas

CMDR Corlas
Derthek said:
You're saying that Sol & SGR A* are theoretically the same location? Mathematically & Logically this theory is dead in the water. The UA tail points anywhere that ISNT merope. Thats an infinite amount of systems. In fact, that's literally EVERY system that ISNT merope. Does that make sense?
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Your logic is sound, but the way I've always read the "which way is it pointing?" question isn't so much "is it pointing to something else?" but rather "is it pointing to Merope, or is it pointing away from it?".

I'm not sure if they changes anything at all, because even if it's some sort of prophetic warning of impending catastrophe centered on Merope, Merope is still the only point that's been called out, and the only thing we have to go on.

I do wonder though if the laser-like focus on the Pleiades is doing more harm than good. But with so may other systems, that might also be an irrelevant question.
 

Verux

Verux
So I went to Merope to have a poke around and saw a CMDR who sent me coordinates for either Merope 1B or Merope 1A followed by "the magic item :)". Ive No idea if hes on a wind-up, trying to lead a novice on a wild-goose chase. I went to 1B to find the location but my game crashed and I cant get back on :(

-17.3739 -131.6169 incase anyone there fancies a look.
 

Zefod

Zefod
Jordanovski said:
Has someone tried flying in to the main star in Merope with UA in cargo.
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for science!

And (as an other less destructive) option... are there any B-type stars to be found on the Merope - Sol line?
Supposing the UA's are trying to communicate with us using our morse code sent out to HD 131336 back in the 60's by the Ruskies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_Message_(1962)

I've been trying to find those B-stars using the galaxy map, but so far no luck.
 
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