General / Off-Topic New British Warships Radar System..,

[Flimley]

.....Can detect a tennis ball from 15 miles away moving at three times the speed of sound.
The ARTISAN medium range 3D surveillance radar, developed by BAE Systems for use on the Navy's Type 23 frigates, apparently offers five times the efficiency of current technology, also allowing ships to cut their way through modern mobile and general technical interference.
It can track up to 800 moving things simultaneously, with a range of 200m to 200km.

It'll soon appear on the controversial new Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers, plus the futuristic Type 26 frigates we'll see around a decade from now ought to come with it pre-installed.

Thats nothing, my 3301 model Anaconda can track a theoretical 32 big moving things under 7.5km away in a 90 degree arc of focus ......and target and shoot 1 of them at a time. Incredible !

 

[CMDR Byr Goefin]

Remind me, do British Warships operate in hard vacuum in the sleet of heavy partial and hard radiation and behind a defensive energy screen?

Rule Britannia, but they are not that good.

 

[Lianachan]

That'll be the aircraft carrier that doesn't carry any aircraft, because there's not enough money for any, and its sister ship that is to be built and immediately mothballed. Nothing to do with your fine point, of course, but still.

 

[ratchet5000]

Remind me, do British Warships operate in hard vacuum in the sleet of heavy partial and hard radiation and behind a defensive energy screen?

Rule Britannia, but they are not that good.

Shieldless ships are detected at the exact same range as shielded.
Reason: Gameplay - seeing the opposing ship up and close is much more visceral than firing a missile at a target 5 Ls away, which is more likely how ship to ship combat will happen in the real 3301 (or maybe something so advanced we can't currently fathom it).

 

[Alric]

Remind me, do British Warships operate in hard vacuum in the sleet of heavy partial and hard radiation and behind a defensive energy screen?

Rule Britannia, but they are not that good.

Being in open space is hardly likely to reduce range, or an energy shield reduce detectability.

Lets be honest, the only convincing reason for the difference is because gameplay.

 

[captain slow]

Remind me, do British Warships operate in hard vacuum in the sleet of heavy partial and hard radiation and behind a defensive energy screen?

Rule Britannia, but they are not that good.

In answer to your question, in the 34th century, yes.

In response to your statement, yes they are

 

[Motherhood of Bran]

.....Can detect a tennis ball from 15 miles away moving at three times the speed of sound.

Good to know they can counter the enemies service game...but just how good is the British Navy at volleys and groundstrokes?

Actually...Battleship tennis - I'd pay money to see that.

 

[who?]

That's nothing, my Asp can detect and identify other ships hundreds of light seconds away, even through stars. Beat that, current technology!

 

[Flimley]

Good to know they can counter the enemies service game...but just how good is the British Navy at volleys and groundstrokes?

Yes the British Navy must go into overdrive when Wimbledon is being hosted.

 

[Frenotx]

I think the common justification is that advances in stealth technologies have made radar all but useless, leaving heat as the best option for detecting space ships.

 

[ratchet5000]

I think the common justification is that advances in stealth technologies have made radar all but useless, leaving heat as the best option for detecting space ships.

You can see ships hundreds of Ls away in supercruise.

 

[CMDR Byr Goefin]

Shieldless ships are detected at the exact same range as shielded.
Reason: Gameplay - seeing the opposing ship up and close is much more visceral than firing a missile at a target 5 Ls away, which is more likely how ship to ship combat will happen in the real 3301 (or maybe something so advanced we can't currently fathom it).

I was thinking more your sensors are BEHIND your own screen which stops high energy LASERs from penetrating but not regular light, it would stop the detectors from getting detectable EM waves from outside the shield.

It is all handwavium, so it really does not matter. It is that way because it is that way, not because of physics as we understand them.

That is why this is a Science FANTASY game, not a Science Fiction game.

 

[h347h]

Thats nothing, my 3301 model Anaconda can track a theoretical 32 big moving things under 7.5km away in a 90 degree arc of focus ......and target and shoot 1 of them at a time. Incredible !

Yeah but then we would have terrible gameplay if we decided that ships should be able to use turreted weapons that are able to shoot beyond the current distance limit and reduce features such as ship speed and agility as a viable combat statistic. A Cobra Mk IIIs speed would be useless if you could target it 12 km away and shoot it down.

 

[ironhammer500]

I think the common justification is that advances in stealth technologies have made radar all but useless, leaving heat as the best option for detecting space ships.

Wouldnt need radar if the FSD system works like warp drive, then it would also increase the ships mass, so then gravitational detectors would be king in this situation, inferred scanners can be blocked to but since the engines are fusion drives then well i guess you would be able to hide those heat signatures.

 

[[VR] Deggial]

I am curious: What concern has the British navy in tennis balls and what did accelerate those pieces of sports equipment to a velocity of three times the speed of sound?

 

[CMDR Byr Goefin]

Wouldnt need radar if the FSD system works like warp drive, then it would also increase the ships mass, so then gravitational detectors would be king in this situation, inferred scanners can be blocked to but since the engines are fusion drives then well i guess you would be able to hide those heat signatures.

Hmm. You bring up a good point. Maybe Mass is how sensors work? Or detecting the Jump Core which might have a unique gravitational signature that identifies ships over lumps of metal.

Might explain the wobble of the gimbles, it is not a very accurate way to find the target.

 

[Louella]

I am curious: What concern has the British navy in tennis balls and what did accelerate those pieces of sports equipment to a velocity of three times the speed of sound?

Other radar sets are quoted as being able to detect snooker balls at 200km.

 

[CMDR Byr Goefin]

I am curious: What concern has the British navy in tennis balls and what did accelerate those pieces of sports equipment to a velocity of three times the speed of sound?

The French. Henry the Vth
Start at 1:20.
Bonus: Brian Blessed is Exeter.


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KING HENRY V

We are no tyrant, but a Christian king;
Unto whose grace our passion is as subject
As are our wretches fetter'd in our prisons:
Therefore with frank and with uncurbed plainness
Tell us the Dauphin's mind.
​

First Ambassador

He therefore sends you, meeter for your spirit,
This tun of treasure; and, in lieu of this,
Desires you let the dukedoms that you claim
Hear no more of you. This the Dauphin speaks.
​

KING HENRY V

What treasure, uncle?
​

EXETER

Tennis-balls, my liege.
​

KING HENRY V We are glad the Dauphin is so pleasant with us;
His present and your pains we thank you for:
When we have march'd our rackets to these balls,
We will, in France, by God's grace, play a set
Shall strike his father's crown into the hazard.

 

[CMDR Byr Goefin]

This led the Battle of the Agincourt System, where 700 Eagles armed with railguns destroyed a superior fleet of 1000 Fer-de-Lances.

 

[Louella]

in fact, it seems quite common to quote radar sets abilities to detect fast moving sports balls at long distances.

I'm not sure when the snooker ball or tennis ball became weaponised in the naval context, though I have heard of the snooker ball in the sock as being an Improvised Melee Weapon, as far back as the 19th century, and historical equivalents such as the billiard ball in the sock, and, during the Suffragette movement, the snooker ball in the ladies stocking.

Trivia: the first widespread commercially successful artificial billiard balls were made from an artificial material called Bonzoline™.

Prior to this, of course, people used natural billiard balls, harvested from billiard oysters.