Horizons tanked in sales?

[Theta Sigma]

Ah, so you previously claimed these were sales. Now you're admitting they were free trials.

So much for your 'verifiable facts'.

ffrr: Nope.

At no point did I "claim" those figures displayed sales (please, be my guest and verify)

ffrr, perhaps you just aren't looking hard enough?
Whilst Frontier haven't explicitly stated XB1 sales of ED, information has been available.

- Do you agree that, "Frontier haven't explicitly stated XB1 sales of ED"?
- Do you agree that regardless of this, "information has been available" (relating to ED XB1)?
- Where in the post do I claim that units = sales ?

Throughout the rest of the post I referred to 'units'

units != sales

- Do you agree that ~46,000 units were shifted i.e. 'free 1 hour trial' downloaded to XB1 machines in the two days between 15th and 17th June?
- Do you agree that some proportion of those 'units' became sales over the following 6 months?
- Do you agree that some XB1 owners would have bought XB1 ED over the 3.5 months of GPP and 2.5 months of full release up to the present minute?

This is not an objective fact. It is another fabrication by yourself. I would challenge you to post some samples of these reviews, but for the fact I know you can't.

Nope (again)

It was an objective fact (at the time* of posting) that:

...the XBox store states 7,874 Reviews with a 4/5 average rating

Go and check:

https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One/Games/Elite-Dangerous/5d1a6afe-0a59-4121-b23d-aefa0915c90c

*The number of reviews now stands at 7,893 still with an average 4/5 rating.

Now, you may object to the use of the term 'review' used by XBox Store - but regardless of whether there is any ASCII text for you to read, the term 'review' still means that 7,893 ED XB1 owners have taken the time to rate the game on a scale of 1 star to 5 stars.

The average of these 7,893 'reviews' stands at 4/5

Once again you completely avoid the issue that ~1% of Steam owners bother to review ED

But I'll ask you again:

- Do ED XB1 owners bother to rate/review games in exactly the same proportion as Steam owners?
- or is it a higher proportion?
- or is it a lower proportion?

Whichever answer you give, the absolute minimum bound for XB1 ED unit sales is currently: 7,893 (100% of ED XB1 owners bother to review - very unlikely to be the case)
However, as you can see from the comparable ~1% Steam bother-to-review percentage, the likely number may be at least 10 times larger at ~80,000 'owners' (10% bother to review) and potentially much, much more if the ED XB1 percentage is similar to the 'ED Steam percentage.

 

[KellyR]

Elite has nothing that appeals to the casual gamer.

Casual gamers are the ones who buy Elite then complain it needs a story and cut-scenes.

Casual gamers want hand holding tutorials.

Casual gamers want key press landings and easier combat.

Casual gamers say "do not buy this game! Nothing to do!"

If Elite ever appeals to casual gamers it will have become more arcade than space sim.

Then I guess it won't appeal to casual gamers as FD is not interested in putting out some cheesy arcade game. They want the feel of what their vision of life in the 32nd Century is like. They want it to be Dangerous. That's why they titled it Elite: Dangerous and not Elite: Arcade or Elite: Safe.

 

[Finbar]

There's mortar it than you think.

Really don't know how you guys can make such bad puns without a tracer guilt...

 

[Theta Sigma]

Really don't know how you guys can make such bad puns without a tracer guilt...

Woah, looks like we're taking a fair amount of flak for derailing this thread.

Personally, I don't think the puns detract too much from the spirit of the thread title though.

 

[Garbarrage]

Woah, looks like we're taking a fair amount of flak for derailing this thread.

Personally, I don't think the puns detract too much from the spirit of the thread title though.

Conjectures based on tenuous "facts" Armour relevant though.

 

[Brett C]

Steam metrics from third party websites vary on how often the system is setup to query the main source. I wouldn't rely on it as a metric if sales skyrocketed or tanked.

With that being said, and this threads state of being a circular discussion - will now be closing this thread. Thanks.