UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

[Vasious]

To satisfy my own curiosity, would someone please be so kind as to point me to a link/evidence where a clear distinction was drawn between Barnacles on the one hand and UA's on the other.

For all I know, they are one and the same thing, just a designation/name given to the said 'unknown' artifact. That would be too funny

Others have posted a video but Unknown Artifacts and Meta-Alloys aka Space Barnacle are separate Commodities market entries

 

[Sole Hunter]

Soul hunter does indeed have "History" and seems to enjoy spreading his own brand of Bovine Extract around the site, He went away for a while as most of us long time Tin Foil forum mad hatters ;-) have him on the ignore list, With all the new and keen UA hunters around he seems to have re appeared. Every one is entitled to an Opinion, Theory or Idea, however claiming to "Know" all the answers and claiming to have either hacked the game files or know someone who has is a good way to discredit yourself on this thread. Who anyone pays attention to is up to the individual, but some people on here have better pedigrees than other .. Fly safe & Fly Informed ! o7

I never said I claimed anything I simply suggested you guys to look somewhere else and make a roadmap with defined objectives but it's fine y'all can keep doing what you are doing best. I'm used to hotheads who just want to read what they want to hear.

I'm just here for the popcorn.

 

[Cmdr Delmonte[VR]]

Have any of you came across "landable' planets or moons that require permits to land on? Came across 5 tonight.

New one on me. But we're out of the bubble. Could you list them please o7

 

[Vasious]

Hey Guys, Could I get some help here.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=218735

I posted this bug report and It's not getting a response from FD. Any chance you could post a "me too" or "I think this is important" or some such to so that FD will look at it?

I'd really appreciate it & add some rep your way

Update:
QA Mark says: "Thanks for the report, well spotted! I'll log this and we'll look into it."

I wonder if it was a deliberate misspelling to avoid the quick searches like Meta-Alloy and Space Barnacles in the game files

 

[EddyRockSteady]

Others have posted a video but Unknown Artifacts and Meta-Alloys aka Space Barnacle are separate Commodities market entries

Meta-Alloy is not a Space Barnacle. That much is obvious from the description itself.

 

[Huros]

Well the UA do glow in the dark. This on is on the ground.
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Of course they glow in the dark! If they have been nuked enough times

 

[Kalearne]

I never said I claimed anything I simply suggested you guys to look somewhere else and make a roadmap with defined objectives but it's fine y'all can keep doing what you are doing best. I'm used to hotheads who just want to read what they want to hear.

I'm just here for the popcorn.

Can we all just agree that his posting history is entirely visible through his forum profile. Time is much better spent exploring one of your own theories or a good one you've found.

If things on the barnIcle front remain the same until the two CG's are finished then I'm off to photo nebulae from different positions. I'm planning on a slow exploration cruise, maybe I'll stumble onto something.

 

[Sole Hunter]

Can we all just agree that his posting history is entirely visible through his forum profile. Time is much better spent exploring one of your own theories or a good one you've found.

What's so wrong about my profile post history? I simply claimed that I looked in the game files and found limited information like 4 months ago and found some offsets with spawning points and made fun of a dude who had wild theories about the egyptians but never implied I knew more than anybody else about UA's in 2.0. I remember donating 3 UA's back when they were a pain in the butt to find.

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I was merely giving a suggestion but some people here like to demonize me because I made a quick comment on something that was posted 4 months ago. On a side note the russian community I was talking about is www.elite-games.ru who's been around since 1999. I very often go on their site because they have a great X3 & Freelancer community.

There was an ongoing discussion on the chatboard & IRC back in september & october about the morse code and people posted videos. That's what I was talking about nothing more so get off your high heels, it's pathetic to see so many hotheads being so reluctant to other groups out there who don't use the official forum to research the UA's.

It's funny because I remember this post I made back in october almost 4 months ago and I remember telling you guys it's about the distance and location of UA's : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&page=169&p=2735452&viewfull=1#post2735452 and next thing you know people started going outside SOL and found a crap ton of UA's near merope "I was merely giving you an insight with some logical answers. The chance you find your next clue is relatively the same, you guys have already explored almost every possible scenario, the devs already told you guys the UA spawn in specific systems. They plan to add planetary landing it wouldn't surprise me if they are keeping a little bit of that mysterious stuff for the future expansion like if you had to bring the UA to a landing point or a a specific moon.". If you can't read along the lines in this one..

If things on the barnIcle front remain the same until the two CG's are finished then I'm off to photo nebulae from different positions. I'm planning on a slow exploration cruise, maybe I'll stumble onto something.

I also very much agree with you if nothing change after this CG and this is in fact a bug : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=218735 then it's worth spending more time on merope and checking it out if not then I'm back exploring to find more UA's with my group because at this point this is just going in circle and with no roadmap this is going nowhere.

 

[Kyp Shard]

Let's have a quick look at some assumptions

There's a lot of talk about tidally locked planets etc, barnacles preferring the dark, all because the thing in the trailer was in the dark, and the sky was very dark with little or no stars visible.

1. Many lifeforms on Earth prefer the dark. Some live in caves or deep in the ground or under the sea, and many just sleep through the day and are active at night - because the Earth is NOT tidally locked to the sun.

2. Just because it was dark in the few seconds of the trailer where the thingie is shown does not mean it is dark there ALL THE TIME

3. Just because it was dark in the few seconds of the trailer where the thingie is shown does not mean the thingie PREFERS the dark.

 

[rizal72]

Russians, Italians... You have all once again just danced the puppet dance for Spain. Muwahahahaha! While you've all been chasing your tails we have solved the UA riddle and weaponised an ancient, terrible alien technology. You days are now counted! NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INTERDICTION!!!

Meanwhile, Australia's down here like " mate?" (Caution: swears in the link )

EDIT: Oh,, that acronym is censored....

Noooooooooooooo! They were friendly, and you misunderstood the message and nuked all of them!
They were offering us the secret to immortality...

 

[Jmanis]

Have any of you came across "landable' planets or moons that require permits to land on? Came across 5 tonight.

Lave 2 and Triton (in Sol) both needed permits, but now they don't. Like others mentioned, I'd also be interested to know what planets they are/where.

 

[Ayal]

Maybe the UAs are scanning everything so they can find a suitable place like planets so they can go there and grow to be a barnacle .... What do you think about my theory

 

[Julio Montega]

You know what, I'm gonna say we both are
My thinking being that these deposits are caused by active vulcanism. Whether or not the barnacle yielding planets are dependent upon vulcanism though, I'm not sure. Seen several different types though:
Iron Magma, Silicate Magma, Carbon Dioxide Geysers, Water Geysers, Silicate Vapour Geysers, Nitrogen Magma, Water Magma and most recent and interestingly, Ammonia Magma. So far no luck on any of them, however, I am yet to find a planet with Ammonia Magma vulcanism I can land on. Certain gas giants contain ammonia based life, and these barnacles are alien in origin. Maybe there's a link.

For me right now, this whole barnacle mystery (which something just tells me is linked to the UA mystery) hinges on the "These appear to be common in certain parts of space..." line from the Meta Alloy commodity mkt description. The key word there being "parts".

What do they mean by "parts"?
What distinct "parts" do we have in the galaxy?

Well, we have nebula. Tried a lot of those. No dice. (Though not all of them).
We have dark regions. Also scoured them with no luck. (again, not all of them - but these things are supposed to be common if we are in the right "part").

We have the spiral arms themselves? I doubt it. Too vague. And too large.

That's about it. Which, if we eliminate the above, leaves us with a needle to find in a galaxy-sized haystack. I've been staring at the galaxy map for so long now I am seeing multi-coloured spots everywhere!

Horizons has just been released, with a big focus on planetary landing. From a game play perspective, FD want us tooling around on planets and they also want us to find this stuff so will most likely make it accessible to all. i.e newish player with only an exploration Sidey - meaning it's close, but outside the bubble, hence the 6 day timer on the Meta Alloy mission.

Anyway, I'm convinced (purely a hunch, and very happy to be proven wrong!) that the key to the "parts" lies in the individual planets themselves. Which means that the "parts" may simply mean "the right planet" and not necessarily tied to a specific 'area' of the galaxy.

Right, I am off to continue to search for a planet with Ammonia Magma vulcanism that can be landed on.

A good idea on the "certain parts of space" info.
Is there a method to distinct the colour of light, reflected by multiple UA?
(I know they are greenish-blue, but what colour will have light after passing
hundreds of lightyears, shifted by other stellar phenomena.)
Maybe a colony out there is the source of the colouring of a nebula or else.

The idea at hand is the simplest we have data on,
certain "parts" referrs to the Pleiades.
No other regions host that concentration on UA,
and the meta-alloys are yet to be regionalized.

 

[Ayal]

A good idea on the "certain parts of space" info.
Is there a method to distinct the colour of light, reflected by multiple UA?
(I know they are greenish-blue, but what colour will have light after passing
hundreds of lightyears, shifted by other stellar phenomena.)
Maybe a colony out there is the source of the colouring of a nebula or else.

i don't think that's the thing we are looking for ... Certain parts could also mean certain areas besides it says certain parts of space not certain parts of planets however space can also have planets inside it so there is that
and like I said until frontier gives us clues or mr Brookes gives us a hint about them ( could you help us mr Brookes please please ? ) we need to wait for pallin to complete his base in my opinion

 

[Kicks]

Sort of back from Christmas festivities for a bit - did I miss anything?

 

[Ozric]

I think you all need to get your hauling boots on and help out in the CG, otherwise your research outpost I'm helping to build, isn't going to be up to researching much

 

[slartybartfast]

I think you all need to get your hauling boots on and help out in the CG, otherwise your research outpost I'm helping to build, isn't going to be up to researching much

It's not out research outpost it's Palins.

Sort of back from Christmas festivities for a bit - did I miss anything?

Not much a fake pic of Barnacles a rage quit and somebody saying the Russians worked it out but couldn't be bothered to tell anybody else, think that's about it.

 

[TFW Primus]

There are big holes but I think they are just due to a lack of looking. We've only actually checked a few hundred systems out of thousands in the shell; it's a big volume of space.

Understood. I'm going to do some spot checking in the big gaps next time I get a chance.

 

[EddyRockSteady]

Maybe the UAs are scanning everything so they can find a suitable place like planets so they can go there and grow to be a barnacle .... What do you think about my theory

Aye, I am also of the opinion that the UA and Barnacle are one and the same thing.

 

[piranha9]

Again some free floating thoughts...

I was thinking about the UAs this morning and i guess one of the biggest problems is that we don't know its intention in the game.
How should we find someting without knowing for what to search?
Maybe we should focus some more on the UA and its purpose again. I'm sure there were lots of discussions about it in the older threads, but maybe some new ideas might pop up?

So here is my try for an explanation:

What is the purpose of the UA?
Since there is a massive amount of UAs, you can assume that they are on a "mission" and not just some random probes. They are sent by someone!
They are not here to entertain us, they are doing/preparing something.
From what we know, they are scanning things around them and then sending out this information again.
This could be for two reasons, first searching for any military information, or second for explorational reasons (or both of course).
They always point to Merope, so maybe they are sending these information back to Merope.
It is also possible that they scan the environment for something "suitable" where they can plant down.
They also seem to harm ships and stations, but it is not clear if this is hostile behaviour.

Currently, they are mostly found within the Merope shell. Well, the game spawns them just there, but how did they actually get there?
I don't think that they just appear there, but been brought there.

Ok, now lets assume these UAs are the precursor to a Thargoid invasion (which is totally speculative of course).
Of course, the Thargoids would want to gather as much data as possible from human space, so they are sending out these UA probes.
According to the wiki, the Thargoids have some link to Merope (couldn't verify this), so this might be a good starting point for them.
So first, they are shooting out some probes from Merope to see if there is anything at all (this would be around patch 1.2, where they rarely appeared).
They got a positive feedback and thus prepared something with larger scale. Having thousands of probes (UAs) floating around Merope star might be a bit suspicious, so they sent them to that shell around Merope where they are gahtering and waiting now for further commands (patch 1.4).

Seeing it from this side, the UAs might not be pointing to Merope, but away from it, since they were sent from there.
And maybe, the free floating UAs found in the shell are already aligned to their destination and pointing from Merope to their target (anyone checked this already?). So it might be possible to bring the UA to its destination "by hand" and see what happens?
Also, the glowing symbols on the UA seem to point in 2 directions.


Another thing that bothers me are the Thargoids themselves. Unfortunatly, FD didn't gave us any information about the current human-thargoid situation (which is a big miss in my opinion, since they are a significant part of the lore). The last official thing we actually know about is that they declared peace and even exchanging technological and cultural ideas (3255). Since then, they were never mentioned again... Maybe they are the guys who magically fill up my ship at a station?